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Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense

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  • Bob_Loblaw1984_PSNB Offline
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    Compare to Gallen’s stats and attributes. Opponent average is nearly identical and Darvish has better K rate, yet Gallen has much higher attributes.

    Please change. @Victor_SDS

    Edit: To be clear, I'm not here to complain about which 5 pitches Darvish was given. This is a subjective process. However, Darvish's H/9 and K/9 attributes make zero sense when compared to other Finest SP.

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    @Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    mpare to Gallen’s stats and attributes. Opponent average is nearly identical and Darvish has better K rate, yet Gallen has much higher attributes.

    We shall riot! Yuuuuuuuu shall stand with meeeee, as we fight the injustice of Yuuu's stats! 🙂

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    They gave him a sinker which he has never thrown. SDS needs to fix pitching so these pitchers can throw their pitches and not give them pitches that fit the meta. It’s bs

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    They gave him a sinker which he has never thrown. SDS needs to fix pitching so these pitchers can throw their pitches and not give them pitches that fit the meta. It’s bs

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    @beanball0571 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    They gave him a sinker which he has never thrown. SDS needs to fix pitching so these pitchers can throw their pitches and not give them pitches that fit the meta. It’s bs

    @beanball0571 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    They gave him a sinker which he has never thrown. SDS needs to fix pitching so these pitchers can throw their pitches and not give them pitches that fit the meta. It’s bs

    If you want Yuuuu to throw all of his REAL pitches, here they are, in no order:

    1. Four-seam fastball.
    2. curve
    3. Slow curve
    4. Power Curve
    5. changeup
    6. high-speed changeup
    7. forkball
    8. split-finger fastball
    9. ONE-SEAM fastball (Didn't know this was a thing)
    10. two-seam fastball
    11. vertical slider
    12. slider
    13. cut fastball
    14. Sinker

    This shows that SDS did in fact get it right.

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  • Hikes83_PSNH Offline
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    1. 8 seam fastball
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    @Hikes83 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    1. 8 seam fastball

    I mean, that is the only pitches that my book had for him. He made more this year. LOL

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    @Hikes83 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    1. 8 seam fastball
    1. Every pitch listed, but left handed
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  • jz2016cubs_PSNJ Offline
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    @Ikasnu said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    @Hikes83 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    1. 8 seam fastball
    1. Every pitch listed, but left handed

    BOOM. 🙂

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    @beanball0571 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    They gave him a sinker which he has never thrown. SDS needs to fix pitching so these pitchers can throw their pitches and not give them pitches that fit the meta. It’s bs

    Its not BS. Darvish throws like 14-15 pitches actually. Giving him a sinker is not outrageous even if it isn’t used alot in his repertoire

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    @the_dragon1912 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    S. Darvish throws like 14-15 pitches actually. Giving him a sinker is not outrageous even if it isn’t used alot in his repertoire

    Correct, he throws 14, as you can see the exact ones above. He is insane, he will eventually have 20. To catch him has to be a NIGHTMARE.

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    @jz2016cubs said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    S. Darvish throws like 14-15 pitches actually. Giving him a sinker is not outrageous even if it isn’t used alot in his repertoire

    Correct, he throws 14, as you can see the exact ones above. He is insane, he will eventually have 20. To catch him has to be a NIGHTMARE.

    Yeah it definitely must be a nightmare. Pretty sure the Cubs signed his personal catcher from Texas when Darvish initially signed a few years back. This season Caratini caught all of his starts I believe. I live in Chicago and watched most of the games.

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    @djpearl23 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    @jz2016cubs said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    S. Darvish throws like 14-15 pitches actually. Giving him a sinker is not outrageous even if it isn’t used alot in his repertoire

    Correct, he throws 14, as you can see the exact ones above. He is insane, he will eventually have 20. To catch him has to be a NIGHTMARE.

    Yeah it definitely must be a nightmare. Pretty sure the Cubs signed his personal catcher from Texas when Darvish initially signed a few years back. This season Caratini caught all of his starts I believe. I live in Chicago and watched most of the games.

    Correct, Caratini caught all of his. And yes, they signed his personal catcher to start.

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    @the_dragon1912 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    @beanball0571 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    They gave him a sinker which he has never thrown. SDS needs to fix pitching so these pitchers can throw their pitches and not give them pitches that fit the meta. It’s bs

    Its not BS. Darvish throws like 14-15 pitches actually. Giving him a sinker is not outrageous even if it isn’t used alot in his repertoire

    Yep. It's not like them giving the Big Train a sinker or anything.

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    @jz2016cubs said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    @djpearl23 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    @jz2016cubs said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    S. Darvish throws like 14-15 pitches actually. Giving him a sinker is not outrageous even if it isn’t used alot in his repertoire

    Correct, he throws 14, as you can see the exact ones above. He is insane, he will eventually have 20. To catch him has to be a NIGHTMARE.

    Yeah it definitely must be a nightmare. Pretty sure the Cubs signed his personal catcher from Texas when Darvish initially signed a few years back. This season Caratini caught all of his starts I believe. I live in Chicago and watched most of the games.

    Correct, Caratini caught all of his. And yes, they signed his personal catcher to start.

    Caratini had a decent season too, wouldn't be surprised if they dump Willlllson at some point this offseason since the Cubs like to act like they are a small market team these last couple years.

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    Nit a fan of his attributes compared to Bauer’s.....

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    @djpearl23 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    d a decent season too, wouldn't be surprised if they dump Willlllson at some point this offseason since the Cubs like to act like they are a small market team these last couple years.

    I agree. That is what I have been saying, they will probs trade Wilson because Caratini is pretty good, getting better.

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    @jz2016cubs said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    @djpearl23 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    d a decent season too, wouldn't be surprised if they dump Willlllson at some point this offseason since the Cubs like to act like they are a small market team these last couple years.

    I agree. That is what I have been saying, they will probs trade Wilson because Caratini is pretty good, getting better.

    Yeah it wouldn't be a bad idea at all, they need some bullpen help big time. I am obviously a Dodgers fan, but one of my favorite players is Rizzo and I hope the Cubs do right by him and re-sign him.

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    @djpearl23 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    @jz2016cubs said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    @djpearl23 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    d a decent season too, wouldn't be surprised if they dump Willlllson at some point this offseason since the Cubs like to act like they are a small market team these last couple years.

    I agree. That is what I have been saying, they will probs trade Wilson because Caratini is pretty good, getting better.

    Yeah it wouldn't be a bad idea at all, they need some bullpen help big time. I am obviously a Dodgers fan, but one of my favorite players is Rizzo and I hope the Cubs do right by him and re-sign him.

    He is with us at least one more year!

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    @jz2016cubs said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    @djpearl23 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    @jz2016cubs said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    @djpearl23 said in Darvish Finest Attributes Make No Sense:

    d a decent season too, wouldn't be surprised if they dump Willlllson at some point this offseason since the Cubs like to act like they are a small market team these last couple years.

    I agree. That is what I have been saying, they will probs trade Wilson because Caratini is pretty good, getting better.

    Yeah it wouldn't be a bad idea at all, they need some bullpen help big time. I am obviously a Dodgers fan, but one of my favorite players is Rizzo and I hope the Cubs do right by him and re-sign him.

    He is with us at least one more year!

    Yeah and I think Javy and Kris are expiring after next season too. Lots of decisions to be made thats for sure.

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