BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty
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There's the general definition of competitive, where two people compete in a challenge of their skill. Then there's the videogame definition of competitive, where two people compete in a challenge where non-user factors are applied to result in a desired outcome.
Believe it or not, people spend lots of extra money playing this game. It's SDS's job to get them to spend as much as possible. If people feel like they don't have a chance, they are less likely to play and spend additional money.
So long as we the consumers allow this model of yearly cycles of fantasy game modes to remain profitable, the gameplay is going to continue to be designed to chase the $$$
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@Chuck_Dizzle29 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
There's the general definition of competitive, where two people compete in a challenge of their skill. Then there's the videogame definition of competitive, where two people compete in a challenge where non-user factors are applied to result in a desired outcome.
Believe it or not, people spend lots of extra money playing this game. It's SDS's job to get them to spend as much as possible. If people feel like they don't have a chance, they are less likely to play and spend additional money.
So long as we the consumers allow this model of yearly cycles of fantasy game modes to remain profitable, the gameplay is going to continue to be designed to chase the $$$
I don’t think BR being low skill gap contributes to SDS making more money. People don’t buy anything to play br. Except for the 1500 stubs, which I doubt makes any difference. Ranked seasons and events are the real money makers. Because in those two modes people actually have to have a team, so they have to buy cards to fill that team. If anything, allowing bad players to compete in br makes them lose money because when people are able to compete in br, they make their stubs back. There’s a huge pay off for having success in br. So if mediocre players are able to have success due to the lack of a skill gap, they’re much less likely to buy stubs for their ranked team because they won’t need to buy stubs.
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No company will ever close a game mode with some of the top cards/skins/packs to the majority of their player base. More people will be upset than happy and that loses money.
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I'd be on board with this. Would make the trivial jump from AS to HoF less difficult cause i can just do a run or two for preparation.
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@Tadow9 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
No company will ever close a game mode with some of the top cards/skins/packs to the majority of their player base. More people will be upset than happy and that loses money.
All of those things are already closed to the majority of their player base bc the majority of their player base is never going 12-0 anyway so that point’s irrelevant.
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@mitchhammond24 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
In the handbook, br is described as “the most challenging and competitive game mode Diamond Dynasty has ever seen”. Seriously? That’s a major slap in the face to the top players that actually compete on the highest difficulty. That’s the actual comp, not 3 inning all star games.
The best word I can think of to describe AS difficulty is “mediocre”. AS difficulty generally seems to be hated by the majority of the community. The skill gap is greatly diminished on AS because of the massive PCI and slow pitch speeds. If they really want br to be “competitive” it would be at least HOF. Having it on AS makes br so luck oriented. It requires some level of luck to win 12 games in a row. But winning 12 games in a row on AS difficulty is more luck than skill in most cases.
Lmk your thoughts- ik id play br way more if it was on HOF. I think the mode has a lot of potential and it would be much more fun and challenging on hof rather than the most RNG based difficulty in the game.
While I would enjoy this I don’t think it’s a good idea for sds as there are probably a lot of casual gamers that want to jump into a quick three inning game and like the draft aspect of br etc. having it default to HOF May push them away.
I posted several months ago what I think is the best option. At the beginning of a run we should be able to choose the level we want to play on. If I choose HOF I will only go into a pool of other players who choose HOF for their run. Then you can even jump into a BR run on legend if you want to warm up before a ranked game. Rewards wouldn’t change and you can’t jump between levels during the same run. This would even potentially give weaker players a chance to advance a bit further in All star because it may level the competition. If a more skilled player tries to do a run on all star they would have to put up with all of the all star inconsistencies.
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@pfcorporate said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
@mitchhammond24 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
In the handbook, br is described as “the most challenging and competitive game mode Diamond Dynasty has ever seen”. Seriously? That’s a major slap in the face to the top players that actually compete on the highest difficulty. That’s the actual comp, not 3 inning all star games.
The best word I can think of to describe AS difficulty is “mediocre”. AS difficulty generally seems to be hated by the majority of the community. The skill gap is greatly diminished on AS because of the massive PCI and slow pitch speeds. If they really want br to be “competitive” it would be at least HOF. Having it on AS makes br so luck oriented. It requires some level of luck to win 12 games in a row. But winning 12 games in a row on AS difficulty is more luck than skill in most cases.
Lmk your thoughts- ik id play br way more if it was on HOF. I think the mode has a lot of potential and it would be much more fun and challenging on hof rather than the most RNG based difficulty in the game.
While I would enjoy this I don’t think it’s a good idea for sds as there are probably a lot of casual gamers that want to jump into a quick three inning game and like the draft aspect of br etc. having it default to HOF May push them away.
I posted several months ago what I think is the best option. At the beginning of a run we should be able to choose the level we want to play on. If I choose HOF I will only go into a pool of other players who choose HOF for their run. Then you can even jump into a BR run on legend if you want to warm up before a ranked game. Rewards wouldn’t change and you can’t jump between levels during the same run. This would even potentially give weaker players a chance to advance a bit further in All star because it may level the competition. If a more skilled player tries to do a run on all star they would have to put up with all of the all star inconsistencies.
I doubt sds even saw the post but I think it would make br much more popular.This would be awesome, but that is probably about 1 million extra lines of code they would have to write and that's just not gonna happen unless the price changed to $199 for the game.
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@ThaGhettoBlasta said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
@pfcorporate said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
@mitchhammond24 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
In the handbook, br is described as “the most challenging and competitive game mode Diamond Dynasty has ever seen”. Seriously? That’s a major slap in the face to the top players that actually compete on the highest difficulty. That’s the actual comp, not 3 inning all star games.
The best word I can think of to describe AS difficulty is “mediocre”. AS difficulty generally seems to be hated by the majority of the community. The skill gap is greatly diminished on AS because of the massive PCI and slow pitch speeds. If they really want br to be “competitive” it would be at least HOF. Having it on AS makes br so luck oriented. It requires some level of luck to win 12 games in a row. But winning 12 games in a row on AS difficulty is more luck than skill in most cases.
Lmk your thoughts- ik id play br way more if it was on HOF. I think the mode has a lot of potential and it would be much more fun and challenging on hof rather than the most RNG based difficulty in the game.
While I would enjoy this I don’t think it’s a good idea for sds as there are probably a lot of casual gamers that want to jump into a quick three inning game and like the draft aspect of br etc. having it default to HOF May push them away.
I posted several months ago what I think is the best option. At the beginning of a run we should be able to choose the level we want to play on. If I choose HOF I will only go into a pool of other players who choose HOF for their run. Then you can even jump into a BR run on legend if you want to warm up before a ranked game. Rewards wouldn’t change and you can’t jump between levels during the same run. This would even potentially give weaker players a chance to advance a bit further in All star because it may level the competition. If a more skilled player tries to do a run on all star they would have to put up with all of the all star inconsistencies.
I doubt sds even saw the post but I think it would make br much more popular.This would be awesome, but that is probably about 1 million extra lines of code they would have to write and that's just not gonna happen unless the price changed to $199 for the game.
Yea I assumed it could be a coding nightmare.
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@mitchhammond24 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
@Tadow9 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
No company will ever close a game mode with some of the top cards/skins/packs to the majority of their player base. More people will be upset than happy and that loses money.
All of those things are already closed to the majority of their player base bc the majority of their player base is never going 12-0 anyway so that point’s irrelevant.
Having it on a lower difficulty and keeping some element of luck still brings the average player in. They have tournaments if you wanna play on HoF against the best of the best.
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Even the true goons who are WS players and great at BR hate it being on allstar.
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Soon online will have no place for anyone under a Hall of fame according to some people here and then SDS will lose money like mine
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@beanball0571 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
Even the true goons who are WS players and great at BR hate it being on allstar.
So therefore it means it should change?
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@mitchhammond24 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
@Hikes83 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
I see where you’re coming from but in a way, it gives everyone a chance to compete on AS really. I win alot more games on HOF than I do on AS. That says something
Describing a mode as “competitive” and wanting everyone to have a chance to compete is ridiculous. The players that would prefer AS difficulty never go 12-0 or win 12 games ever. So they really don’t compete. They may get lucky in a game or two but is that competing? That’s just wasting 1500 stubs. Events should be kept on AS for those that wanna feel good abt themselves for “competing” by getting bailed out by low skill gap settings
I agree keep events on All-Star and keep rest on HOF going to be honest BR makes me feel like I can hit everything and then
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@nymets1987 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
Soon online will have no place for anyone under a Hall of fame according to some people here and then SDS will lose money like mine
Events and ranked low levels of ranked will be your place. br is labeled as “competitive” and has the best rewards in the game so it should be skill based not luck based imo
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@mitchhammond24 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
@nymets1987 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
Soon online will have no place for anyone under a Hall of fame according to some people here and then SDS will lose money like mine
Events and ranked low levels of ranked will be your place. br is labeled as “competitive” and has the best rewards in the game so it should be skill based not luck based imo
There is a good argument... some want it nowhere
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It’s the same reason Ford doesn’t target the top 1% of earners with their trucks. The top 1% doesn’t drive their sales, the 60k a year guy does. The same way the average player gets the most content geared towards them, they will never make it inaccessible.
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@Tadow9 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
It’s the same reason Ford doesn’t target the top 1% of earners with their trucks. The top 1% doesn’t drive their sales, the 60k a year guy does. The same way the average player gets the most content geared towards them, they will never make it inaccessible.
I think there can be tiered rewards with tiered levels if possible but all for nothing seems like an odd strategy
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@nymets1987 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
@Tadow9 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
It’s the same reason Ford doesn’t target the top 1% of earners with their trucks. The top 1% doesn’t drive their sales, the 60k a year guy does. The same way the average player gets the most content geared towards them, they will never make it inaccessible.
I think there can be tiered rewards with tiered levels if possible but all for nothing seems like an odd strategy
What’s all for nothing?
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@Tadow9 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
@nymets1987 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
@Tadow9 said in BR needs to be on hall of fame difficulty:
It’s the same reason Ford doesn’t target the top 1% of earners with their trucks. The top 1% doesn’t drive their sales, the 60k a year guy does. The same way the average player gets the most content geared towards them, they will never make it inaccessible.
I think there can be tiered rewards with tiered levels if possible but all for nothing seems like an odd strategy
What’s all for nothing?
Putting it on Hall of Fame for the top players for all online games
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But none of the “casual” players that want it to be AS have any success in br anyway so I don’t understand the logic there. I haven’t actually met many players that prefer AS over HOF. Thought the general consensus is that all star is hated.
In a lot of games, casual players get slammed if they try playing h2h. Ik this because I’ve tried siege and the skill gap is so much better. I’m tired of casual players that aren’t good at the game wanting to “compete” because of RNG. Is that really competing, or is that just getting luckyAnd if they want br to be a mode for more casual players, that’s fine. But don’t call it the “most challenging and competitive game mode diamond dynasty has ever seen”. And offer those prestigious 12-0 type rewards somewhere else if that’s the case. What do top players get? Packs. Packs for reaching major milestones above 900 rating. That is such a sad reward to get for such a grind
