How does this game affect people?
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I tried to play another H2H game, but it’s just hit after hit after hit. Think we were up to 7-4 after 2 1/3 innings. Turned it off. Super arcade slugfest 2020. Effect on me was basically:
Time to do something more fun, like watch reruns of things I’ve already seen on Netflix.
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I get mad sometimes especially during a showdown double play fest, but for the most part I still have fun when I play. The real downside is the carpal tunnel from being addicted to working the market so I can collect as many player cards as possible.
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@vagimon said in How does this game affect people?:
@ComebackLogic said in How does this game affect people?:
Used to get mad, don’t bother anymore. I’m just not as invested in the game as I used to be, I don’t want to make WS, I don’t want to try and improve my in game abilities and I don’t even care about winning any more. This is a direct result of coming to the realisation that this game is designed in such a manner that improvement and success are simply an illusion. User skill is a factor, but not a decisive factor in any way.
The game feels a lot like a slot machine to me, you just keep doing the same thing, hitting the same button, until you randomly hit the jackpot. User input? Well, I guess someone has to pull the lever or push the button on a slot machine, so without user input, it wouldn’t play, but getting rewarded isn’t a matter of skill, it’s just when the game decides to reward you for something you’ve been doing for 8 innings already to no avail. Gameplay has been terrible since ‘18, the only thing they improved this year was to increase the rate at which success is awarded when hitting. In turn this has given us a dismal year for pitching and defense. I used to love DD, now I just play it because that’s what I do. Collect the same cards every year and suffer the abysmal gameplay. Maybe I should just quit.
I agree completely. I believe that better players generally win because they more consistently get their PCIs in a place that gives them more favorable dice rolls. But as we all know more consistent pci placement won’t always lead to a win. What’s frustrating is that you know when the dice rolls are not going your way. After a few innings of having two out of your three outs each inning coming from good pci placement that results in the ball thudding off the bat and winding up in the middle of the outfield, you begin to realize how little control you have. And for the pitching, when a pitch goes in the opposite direction of where you aim it that leads to a homerun 90% of the time, it just serves as another reminder how random the gameplay is. There’s another post on the forum that asks people about the importance of the gameplay experience. Honestly, I’m finding it hard to find really any positive gameplay experiences at this point. I feel like I’ve taken the red pill and all I can see is a black screen full of green ones and zeroes, and win or lose, I walk away unsatisfied. I think I’d like to quit too, but I’m having a hard time finding games that can keep my attention any more.
Well said, well thought out responses. I was hoping for these kinds of responses. I completely agree with you sir!
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@RonnieGant1992 said in How does this game affect people?:
Just blew a 2-1 lead with 2 outs in bottom of 9th in HOF game when I gave up a pinch hit HR to Winker off Dibble. Then lost 5-2 in 10. If my 2 yr old wasn't awake ida probably said some choice words
Checking In here since misery loves company. Blew 2 saves back to back while having a game tying hr knocked down/almost robbed by bronze fielder JD Martinez at left. Yeah, I hate life.
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@mjfc_363 said in How does this game affect people?:
Does this game ruin anyone’s day?
For me, my frustration really lies on SDS as they are responsible for the gameplay experience which has been consistently less than stellar in what seems every single year.
I had a totally random thought of the possibility to petition for Santa Monica Studios, Sony to take over the MLB series as I feel that SDS are just too incompetent to fix anything directly related to gameplay issues. I understand that this is completely unrealistic for any Sony entity to takeover the MLB series from SDS, as to why it was just a passing thought of "what if?"
My whole point of bringing this up is because it somehow led me to SDS website 'Careers' which they currently have an opening for the position of "Senior Gameplay Programmer" directly related to this game. The job description reads as follows:
"PlayStation’s brand new San Diego Study campus is seeking a Gameplay Programmer to join the team behind the critically acclaimed “MLB - The Show” game series.
In this role you will work on the decision logic and control systems that craft the game play experience. Systems worked on may include fielding, base running, batting, physics, pitching, catching, general animation integration, locomotion, and many more. You will partner with designers, animators, and producers to identify problems, provide solutions, and improve the overall quality of the player experience."
Now, I don't know how long SDS has been looking to fulfill this position, since gameplay seems to be horrid year after year. But at least it acknowledges that SDS recognizes that gameplay is definitely something that needs to be addressed, and perhaps explains as to why gameplay seems to be below standards, and for that, it has eased my mind in giving them a "temporary pass."
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@onnagood1 said in How does this game affect people?:
@mjfc_363 said in How does this game affect people?:
Does this game ruin anyone’s day?
For me, my frustration really lies on SDS as they are responsible for the gameplay experience which has been consistently less than stellar in what seems every single year.
I had a totally random thought of the possibility to petition for Santa Monica Studios, Sony to take over the MLB series as I feel that SDS are just too incompetent to fix anything directly related to gameplay issues. I understand that this is completely unrealistic for any Sony entity to takeover the MLB series from SDS, as to why it was just a passing thought of "what if?"
My whole point of bringing this up is because it somehow led me to SDS website 'Careers' which they currently have an opening for the position of "Senior Gameplay Programmer" directly related to this game. The job description reads as follows:
"PlayStation’s brand new San Diego Study campus is seeking a Gameplay Programmer to join the team behind the critically acclaimed “MLB - The Show” game series.
In this role you will work on the decision logic and control systems that craft the game play experience. Systems worked on may include fielding, base running, batting, physics, pitching, catching, general animation integration, locomotion, and many more. You will partner with designers, animators, and producers to identify problems, provide solutions, and improve the overall quality of the player experience."
Now, I don't know how long SDS has been looking to fulfill this position, since gameplay seems to be horrid year after year. But at least it acknowledges that SDS recognizes that gameplay is definitely something that needs to be addressed, and perhaps explains as to why gameplay seems to be below standards, and for that, it has eased my mind in giving them a "temporary pass."
Interesting!
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Just lost a 1-0 game in the 10th. I struck him out 19 times. He struck me out 14. Giolitto’s pitches were so fast that I couldn’t see them. Maybe it’s just eye fatigue, but his 95 mph fastball seemed like 115. It was such a helpless feeling. I think I need to take a few days off from the show.
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This year has been crazy. Thought I’d be all set after ‘19. Knew who I could hit and pitch with successfully and went into ‘20 ready to go. Not the case. Cards I smashed with last year can’t hit this year. Unbelievably sucks. I’ve got a ton of stubs and afraid to try anyone new
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@ikarus92_ said in How does this game affect people?:
I just want to know why I can beat a 90-30, 20-1 record guy but lose to the god of hitting with a 190-250 record. Riddle me f$$#% that please. Maybe I'll reopen the app.
I’m the guy with that record
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@mjfc_363 said in How does this game affect people?:
Does this game ruin anyone’s day?
I get frustrated, but it doesn't ruin my day. I remind myself it's just that a game.
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"PlayStation’s brand new San Diego Study campus is seeking a Gameplay Programmer to join the team behind the critically acclaimed “MLB - The Show” game series.
In this role you will work on the decision logic and control systems that craft the game play experience. Systems worked on may include fielding, base running, batting, physics, pitching, catching, general animation integration, locomotion, and many more. You will partner with designers, animators, and producers to identify problems, provide solutions, and improve the overall quality of the player experience."
Hilariously, this is what we all try to do anyway. But nobody listens. I’d do this job on a voluntary basis, personally. I spend that much time playing MLB the Show, while finding problems with gameplay, then posting here about potential solutions I’d like to see implemented in the future, that this job would be like a vacation. Hire me!!!
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In fact here’s three things to work on for free. Keep the consultation fee, spend it on game development, lol.
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The barrel of a baseball bat is not four or five times the size of a baseball. Why is PCI so big? I understand the concept of user engagement and that making it too difficult to make contact with the ball will make less skilled users prone to frustration. That said, when you factor in the outer PCI which apparently represents vision, the area which you can potentially make contact with looks to be twenty times the size of a baseball. Go outside and attempt to hit a ball with a bat and ask yourselves if this represents the game of baseball and hitting a ball with a bat accurately. Shrink PCI next year.
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While pulling the ball does tend to generate velocity IRL, swinging early won’t help a hitter unless they get the barrel of the bat on the baseball. In MLB the Show, swinging early is the entire skill gap, with good PCI placement often barely considered over swinging early. Swinging the bat like a madman hopped up on adderall isn’t going to get you on a MLB roster if you’re just wiffing, yet in game, it’s enough to make Chris Davies into Babe Ruth. Not good enough, PCI placement should be more of a factor than swing timing. Power hitters can muscle it out to dead CF or oppo if they get a good swing on the ball.
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I’m not even going to break this one down. Just put pitching back to how it was in ‘17. That was the last game where I felt like pitching mattered and was a skill based endeavour. How can you release Maddux, Smoltz and Glavine and have them all be useless due to pitching being an afterthought? C’mon. Go play ‘17 on the pitching side if you need a refresher. The ball goes where you aim it and everyone didn’t need a sinker to be effective.
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@ComebackLogic said in How does this game affect people?:
In fact here’s three things to work on for free. Keep the consultation fee, spend it on game development, lol.
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The barrel of a baseball bat is not four or five times the size of a baseball. Why is PCI so big? I understated the concept of user engagement and that making it too difficult to make contact with the ball will make less skilled users prone to frustration. That said, when you factor in the outer PCI which apparently represents vision, the area which you can potentially make contact with looks to be twenty times the size of a baseball. Go outside and attempt to hit a ball with a bat and ask yourselves if this represents the game of baseball and hitting a ball with a bat accurately. Shrink PCI next year.
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While pulling the ball does tend to generate velocity IRL, swinging early won’t help a hitter unless they get the barrel of the bat on the baseball. In MLB the Show, swinging early is the entire skill gap, with good PCI placement often barely considered over swinging early. Swinging the bat like a madman hopped up on adderall isn’t going to get you on a MLB roster if you’re just wiffing, yet in game, it’s enough to make Chris Davies into Babe Ruth. Not good enough, PCI placement should be more of a factor than swing timing. Power hitters can muscle it out to dead CF or oppo if they get a good swing on the ball.
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I’m not even going to break this one down. Just put pitching back to how it was in ‘17. That was the last game where I felt like pitching mattered and was a skill based endeavour. How can you release Maddux, Smoltz and Glavine and have them all be useless due to pitching being an afterthought? C’mon. Go play ‘17 on the pitching side if you need a refresher. The ball goes where you aim it and everyone didn’t need a sinker to be effective.
#3 is so important. I made WS in 2017, and it was all pitching. My batting average was .240. That was the last year I played. This year, I’m at 866 and afraid to start a match fearing I match with someone who is good at #2.
My hitting has improved a little in recent weeks, practicing the clicks method for FB timing. I’ll now try to be earlier on everything as well. But it does suck to make huge investments in pitching and not be able to hold an opponent down for three innings.
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Sadly I’m expecting the exact same game next year, but upgraded in terms of visuals and max resolution for next gen. I’m obviously really hoping for a rebuild from the ground up, this game engine has never worked well, but typically, I’m expecting the same game but prettier, which will obviously be a devastating blow after 3 years of substandard gameplay.
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