Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again)
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Let's play this out....
Roberts goes to the pen yesterday and they win.
Series tied 2-2
If they get smashed today because he needs to extend carrot top, being down 3-2 and a rested pen is feasible.Now he is down 3-1 and he cannot use his top arms 3 straight days.
Check mate.
The day to use the pen was yesterday.The problem Roberts also has and needed to use the best arms in the pen yesterday is Buehler has blisters.
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@dbarmonstar said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Let's play this out....
Roberts goes to the pen yesterday and they win.
Series tied 2-2
If they get smashed today because he needs to extend carrot top, being down 3-2 and a rested pen is feasible.Now he is down 3-1 and he cannot use his top arms 3 straight days.
Check mate.
The day to use the pen was yesterday.The problem Roberts also has and needed to use the best arms in the pen yesterday is Buehler has blisters.
The Rays gave us the blue print for using a compromised starter vs the Yanks.
One time through the lineup and that's it. If Walker has blisters then 3 innings is the most you can expect from him.
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@dbarmonstar said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Let's play this out....
Roberts goes to the pen yesterday and they win.
Series tied 2-2
If they get smashed today because he needs to extend carrot top, being down 3-2 and a rested pen is feasible.Now he is down 3-1 and he cannot use his top arms 3 straight days.
Check mate.
The day to use the pen was yesterday.The problem Roberts also has and needed to use the best arms in the pen yesterday is Buehler has blisters.
The Rays gave us the blue print for using a compromised starter vs the Yanks.
One time through the lineup and that's it. If Walker has blisters then 3 innings is the most you can expect from him.
I Think dodgers win tonight but game 6 and 7 up against Fried and Anderson will be tough. Is it possible of course but not likely. You never know. I hope dodger can get it going and win the next 3.
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@MathMan5072 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
If Roberts sends out his top 4 arms in kelly, Treinen, Graterol, and Jansen and they get walked off because they cant score runs, they have no chance to win the series.
I know I’ve got dodger goggles on here. But if they can find a way to score some runs, they can still win this series. But, if they’re going to score 2 runs then the Braves deserve to win it.
He had a rested Pen. Treinen and Kelly had only pitched a third of an inning each.
Using Jansen in a blow out game the night before was stupid at best.
That is 3 innings right there....6, 7, 8.
When you are up 10 plus runs you can afford to leave a guy out there a little longer.
Or he could have used Wood for multiple innings since he is a starter.Well Roberts left Kelly and the boys in the pen and now he is down 3-1.
But heck they are rested at least.
You manage for today down 2-1 in a series.
If you need to use your pen to get it to 2-2, you do it.You make good points for sure. I think the Jansen thing must have been an understanding between both sides to see how he felt.
I think using the pen is a much better argument if the dodgers are up in a 4-3 or 5-3 game after 5. Then, yeah, use your dudes and win the game. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I just don’t agree.
I just want the dodgers to win so badly. They’re the only sports teams I follow and I’ve loved the dodgers since I was 6. There’s no excuses. The Braves are a good team. It’s just that our hopes get up so high every year.
Either way, I do believe it’s not insane to think the dodgers could win this series. Just gotta win tonight.
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Kershaw shouldn't have been sent out for the 6th. He was spent. He left it all on the field. Atlanta, right now, is the best team. They don't even have Soroka going whose the equivelant of Buehler. This rebuild has been good for them and they have John Copollela to thank. They arent going anywhere for awhile and still have talent sitting in the minors.
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@mrcityofwin said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Love me some kersh but this braves lineup is filth. Everyone locked in rn
It's the playoffs. Everyone has a stacked lineup.
If he wants to be considered an all time great, he needs to pitch great in the post season.
It might not be fair, but that is the standard baseball has used for over 100 years.He IS an all time great, plain and simple. Yes, he hasn’t been great in the playoffs, but he also hasn’t been as bad as you think, either. You are overreacting to an outing in which he gave up four runs to an awesome Braves lineup. This isn’t prime Kershaw, he’s nearing the end of his career and has been battling back issues for a while. Dude has three Cy Youngs, an MVP as a friggin pitcher, and was the best pitcher ever for the span of five years. Show a little [censored] respect.
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@formallyforearms said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@dbarmonstar said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Roger Clemens is only slightly better than Kershaw in post season and pretty sure he was on Roids.
Roger was 3-0 with a 2.37 ERA and WHIP under 1.00 in 8 World Series starts.
I think he gets a bad rap. He wasnt as dominant in the postseason as the regular season. Considering its arguable that hes the greatest starting pitcher of all time, any step down is looked at more critically.
I had to laugh at “the greatest starting pitcher of all time”. Thanks I needed that today
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@smalltownkid1990 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@mrcityofwin said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Love me some kersh but this braves lineup is filth. Everyone locked in rn
It's the playoffs. Everyone has a stacked lineup.
If he wants to be considered an all time great, he needs to pitch great in the post season.
It might not be fair, but that is the standard baseball has used for over 100 years.Show a little [censored] respect.
Oh buddy you stepped in it big time.
You are right Kershaw hasn't been as bad as I thought, he has been WORSE.
By most accounts he is the worst postseason pitcher EVER!!!!http://baseballegg.com/2019/10/12/is-kershaw-the-worst-great-pitcher-in-postseason-history/
(Thanks to @dbarmonstar for the link)And I am not over reacting to one bad outing, I am reacting to about 10 bad outings!!! You sound like a clown.
He sucked in the playoffs when he was young, at his peak and now at the end of his career.And you claim he was the best pitcher ever over 5 years, by what measure??
WAR? Nope
Heck he doesn't even have the best 5 yr run on his own team..Mr. Koufax would like a word with you clown.
Koufax from 62-66 not only matched Kershaw's 3 Cy Young's (only 1 CY for all of baseball then) and 1 MVP. He also finished 2nd in the MVP voting 2 other years. He Also lead the NL in ERA ALL five years.He also had two 10 plus WAR seasons, his 3rd best season of 8.1 WAR in 65 matches Kershaw's best season over your so called best ever 5 yr run.
BTW, he also won 2 World Series MVP's during the run, but yeah Kershaw was better.
The only time Kershaw saw a WS MVP award was when they handed it to the team that just whooped his a$$.And for as great as Koufax was Randy Johnson's run from 98-2002 was probably better.
So before you go around telling people to show a little respect you better check yourself and make sure your facts are straight before you look like a complete and total moron.
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@smalltownkid1990 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@mrcityofwin said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Love me some kersh but this braves lineup is filth. Everyone locked in rn
It's the playoffs. Everyone has a stacked lineup.
If he wants to be considered an all time great, he needs to pitch great in the post season.
It might not be fair, but that is the standard baseball has used for over 100 years.Show a little [censored] respect.
Oh buddy you stepped in it big time.
You are right Kershaw hasn't been as bad as I thought, he has been WORSE.
By most accounts he is the worst postseason pitcher EVER!!!!http://baseballegg.com/2019/10/12/is-kershaw-the-worst-great-pitcher-in-postseason-history/
(Thanks to @dbarmonstar for the link)And I am not over reacting to one bad outing, I am reacting to about 10 bad outings!!! You sound like a clown.
He sucked in the playoffs when he was young, at his peak and now at the end of his career.And you claim he was the best pitcher ever over 5 years, by what measure??
WAR? Nope
Heck he doesn't even have the best 5 yr run on his own team..Mr. Koufax would like a word with you clown.
Koufax from 62-66 not only matched Kershaw's 3 Cy Young's (only 1 CY for all of baseball then) and 1 MVP. He also finished 2nd in the MVP voting 2 other years. He Also lead the NL in ERA ALL five years.He also had two 10 plus WAR seasons, his 3rd best season of 8.1 WAR in 65 matches Kershaw's best season over your so called best ever 5 yr run.
BTW, he also won 2 World Series MVP's during the run, but yeah Kershaw was better.
The only time Kershaw saw a WS MVP award was when they handed it to the team that just whooped his a$$.And for as great as Koufax was Randy Johnson's run from 98-2002 was probably better.
So before you go around telling people to show a little respect you better check yourself and make sure your facts are straight before you look like a complete and total moron.
Yes his 2013-2017 five season stretch is the best ever by many pitching metrics. Worst postseason pitcher?? Kershaws postseason ERA is 4.31, not great but far from the “worst postseason pitcher ever.” Stop being an ungrateful little brat and appreciate baseball greatness when it’s in front of you. Now have a great weekend you little [censored] and say hi to mommy for me
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@smalltownkid1990 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@smalltownkid1990 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@mrcityofwin said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Love me some kersh but this braves lineup is filth. Everyone locked in rn
It's the playoffs. Everyone has a stacked lineup.
If he wants to be considered an all time great, he needs to pitch great in the post season.
It might not be fair, but that is the standard baseball has used for over 100 years.Show a little [censored] respect.
Oh buddy you stepped in it big time.
You are right Kershaw hasn't been as bad as I thought, he has been WORSE.
By most accounts he is the worst postseason pitcher EVER!!!!http://baseballegg.com/2019/10/12/is-kershaw-the-worst-great-pitcher-in-postseason-history/
(Thanks to @dbarmonstar for the link)And I am not over reacting to one bad outing, I am reacting to about 10 bad outings!!! You sound like a clown.
He sucked in the playoffs when he was young, at his peak and now at the end of his career.And you claim he was the best pitcher ever over 5 years, by what measure??
WAR? Nope
Heck he doesn't even have the best 5 yr run on his own team..Mr. Koufax would like a word with you clown.
Koufax from 62-66 not only matched Kershaw's 3 Cy Young's (only 1 CY for all of baseball then) and 1 MVP. He also finished 2nd in the MVP voting 2 other years. He Also lead the NL in ERA ALL five years.He also had two 10 plus WAR seasons, his 3rd best season of 8.1 WAR in 65 matches Kershaw's best season over your so called best ever 5 yr run.
BTW, he also won 2 World Series MVP's during the run, but yeah Kershaw was better.
The only time Kershaw saw a WS MVP award was when they handed it to the team that just whooped his a$$.And for as great as Koufax was Randy Johnson's run from 98-2002 was probably better.
So before you go around telling people to show a little respect you better check yourself and make sure your facts are straight before you look like a complete and total moron.
Yes his 2013-2017 five season stretch is the best ever by many pitching metrics. Worst postseason pitcher?? Kershaws postseason ERA is 4.31, not great but far from the “worst postseason pitcher ever.” Stop being an ungrateful little brat and appreciate baseball greatness when it’s in front of you. Now have a great weekend you little [censored] and say hi to mommy for me
What metrics??
Yours perhaps. There isn't a knowledgeable baseball fan (other than you and Dodgers fanboys) that would call Kershaw's 5 yr run the best ever..
Did you not read the numbers Koufax put up?
He also struck out 300 plus hitters 3 times in that span, Kershaw? once.There isn't a postseason pitcher with at least 50 IP whose ERA, HR/9 and expected runs goes up more than Kershaw.
Yep, WORST Postseason Pitcher EVER!!! Live with it fanboystop sniffing his jock and get your head out of his a$$.
BTW, tell your mom I left a $20 for her on the nightstand.
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@lazy_toast said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@formallyforearms said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@dbarmonstar said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Roger Clemens is only slightly better than Kershaw in post season and pretty sure he was on Roids.
Roger was 3-0 with a 2.37 ERA and WHIP under 1.00 in 8 World Series starts.
I think he gets a bad rap. He wasnt as dominant in the postseason as the regular season. Considering its arguable that hes the greatest starting pitcher of all time, any step down is looked at more critically.
I had to laugh at “the greatest starting pitcher of all time”. Thanks I needed that today
"Arguable". Pretty sure there is a legitimate argument there. MVP, 7x CY, and many advanced metrics in his favor.
There are many that can be argued as the best starting pitcher. Hes one of them. Not exactly a "hot take".
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Robert's needs to use Kershaw out of the pen for an inning or two.
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@smalltownkid1990 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@mrcityofwin said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Love me some kersh but this braves lineup is filth. Everyone locked in rn
It's the playoffs. Everyone has a stacked lineup.
If he wants to be considered an all time great, he needs to pitch great in the post season.
It might not be fair, but that is the standard baseball has used for over 100 years.Show a little [censored] respect.
Oh buddy you stepped in it big time.
You are right Kershaw hasn't been as bad as I thought, he has been WORSE.
By most accounts he is the worst postseason pitcher EVER!!!!http://baseballegg.com/2019/10/12/is-kershaw-the-worst-great-pitcher-in-postseason-history/
(Thanks to @dbarmonstar for the link)And I am not over reacting to one bad outing, I am reacting to about 10 bad outings!!! You sound like a clown.
He sucked in the playoffs when he was young, at his peak and now at the end of his career.And you claim he was the best pitcher ever over 5 years, by what measure??
WAR? Nope
Heck he doesn't even have the best 5 yr run on his own team..Mr. Koufax would like a word with you clown.
Koufax from 62-66 not only matched Kershaw's 3 Cy Young's (only 1 CY for all of baseball then) and 1 MVP. He also finished 2nd in the MVP voting 2 other years. He Also lead the NL in ERA ALL five years.He also had two 10 plus WAR seasons, his 3rd best season of 8.1 WAR in 65 matches Kershaw's best season over your so called best ever 5 yr run.
BTW, he also won 2 World Series MVP's during the run, but yeah Kershaw was better.
The only time Kershaw saw a WS MVP award was when they handed it to the team that just whooped his a$$.And for as great as Koufax was Randy Johnson's run from 98-2002 was probably better.
So before you go around telling people to show a little respect you better check yourself and make sure your facts are straight before you look like a complete and total moron.
I have always stuck up for Kershaw and we had back and forth about it, when I found that article there is no denying how bad Kershaw is in the postseason. When He is good he is really good, when he is bad he is really bad, there is no middle ground with Kershaw. Hopefully dodgers only need him for 1 start in this WS. I hope he pitches lights out vs TB like he has done vs The Cardinals in a game 1 but lost 1-0 dodgers had no offense. 2017 WS vs Astros he was outstanding his first outing dodger won I believe 2-1.
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@smalltownkid1990 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@smalltownkid1990 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@mrcityofwin said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Love me some kersh but this braves lineup is filth. Everyone locked in rn
It's the playoffs. Everyone has a stacked lineup.
If he wants to be considered an all time great, he needs to pitch great in the post season.
It might not be fair, but that is the standard baseball has used for over 100 years.Show a little [censored] respect.
Oh buddy you stepped in it big time.
You are right Kershaw hasn't been as bad as I thought, he has been WORSE.
By most accounts he is the worst postseason pitcher EVER!!!!http://baseballegg.com/2019/10/12/is-kershaw-the-worst-great-pitcher-in-postseason-history/
(Thanks to @dbarmonstar for the link)And I am not over reacting to one bad outing, I am reacting to about 10 bad outings!!! You sound like a clown.
He sucked in the playoffs when he was young, at his peak and now at the end of his career.And you claim he was the best pitcher ever over 5 years, by what measure??
WAR? Nope
Heck he doesn't even have the best 5 yr run on his own team..Mr. Koufax would like a word with you clown.
Koufax from 62-66 not only matched Kershaw's 3 Cy Young's (only 1 CY for all of baseball then) and 1 MVP. He also finished 2nd in the MVP voting 2 other years. He Also lead the NL in ERA ALL five years.He also had two 10 plus WAR seasons, his 3rd best season of 8.1 WAR in 65 matches Kershaw's best season over your so called best ever 5 yr run.
BTW, he also won 2 World Series MVP's during the run, but yeah Kershaw was better.
The only time Kershaw saw a WS MVP award was when they handed it to the team that just whooped his a$$.And for as great as Koufax was Randy Johnson's run from 98-2002 was probably better.
So before you go around telling people to show a little respect you better check yourself and make sure your facts are straight before you look like a complete and total moron.
Yes his 2013-2017 five season stretch is the best ever by many pitching metrics. Worst postseason pitcher?? Kershaws postseason ERA is 4.31, not great but far from the “worst postseason pitcher ever.” Stop being an ungrateful little brat and appreciate baseball greatness when it’s in front of you. Now have a great weekend you little [censored] and say hi to mommy for me
What metrics??
Yours perhaps. There isn't a knowledgeable baseball fan (other than you and Dodgers fanboys) that would call Kershaw's 5 yr run the best ever..
Did you not read the numbers Koufax put up?
He also struck out 300 plus hitters 3 times in that span, Kershaw? once.There isn't a postseason pitcher with at least 50 IP whose ERA, HR/9 and expected runs goes up more than Kershaw.
Yep, WORST Postseason Pitcher EVER!!! Live with it fanboystop sniffing his jock and get your head out of his a$$.
BTW, tell your mom I left a $20 for her on the nightstand.
I feel insulted I am a dodger fan and I would take Koufax over Kershaw.
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@Ikasnu said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Robert's needs to use Kershaw out of the pen for an inning or two.
You were obviously rooting for the Braves
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@dbarmonstar said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@mjfc_363 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@mjfc_363 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@mrcityofwin said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Love me some kersh but this braves lineup is filth. Everyone locked in rn
It's the playoffs. Everyone has a stacked lineup.
If he wants to be considered an all time great, he needs to pitch great in the post season.
It might not be fair, but that is the standard baseball has used for over 100 years.So then Keyshawn doesn’t belong in the hall of fame?
Who said that?
My initial post was can you remember another 1st ballot sure fire Hall of Famer that has come up as small in the Playoffs as Kershaw has?
Kershaw is a Hall of Famer, but he is trash when it matters most. He is a great player, but he can never be in the all time great discussion because of prolonged and repeated playoff disasters.As for "Keyshawn" he is not a Hall of Famer, nobody got him the D-a-m-n ball.
Ok good post. Just wanted to clarify. It’s unfortunate that it happened that way but it did.
If you watched the games over the years in the post season, Kershaw was always left in to long in a game especially by Mattingly. Look at some of the games he had no run support. He has had plenty of games were outstanding. You can throw out the WS games where the Astros Cheated,. He pitched outstanding vs the Astros at dodger stadium in that WS but his second outing in Hou not so good.
Good point on the cheating Stros. I will concede that.
Baseball while being a team sport has the single most important individual in sports, as far as determining outcomes, the starting pitcher.Win-Loss record is misleading and we all know that. But a career 4.31 ERA is not.
A starting pitcher has one job, keep his team in the game. If he would have left after 5 IP tied at 1. He did his job. He gave the Dodgers a chance to win, that is all you can ask for.
At this point of his career he is a #4 starter and a #3 caliber on his best days.I would say his is still a 2 or 3, Buehler is the ace on the dodgers . In the post season I trust Kershaw for One good outing and Urias has been great.
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@aam34 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@phillydave35 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Maybe, but he was keeping them in it. 1 run on 1 hit isn’t going to win much. Their offense needs to wake up.
GREAT POINT. He did his job in my opinion. The bullpen and the offense did not have his back last night!
No he did not.
He did his job through 5 innings.
The 6th inning DID happen. He surrendered a hit to Acuna and doubles to Freeman and Ozuna.
You can't blame the error advancing Acuna to second, he would have scored on Freeman's double. And Ozuna would have certainly driven him in on his double.Even if Graterol would have shut the Braves down, it would have been 3-1 after 6 innings.
Roberts is the issue here. He took a banged up, fading veteran and got greedy and tried to run him out there for one more inning.
Shows you how little faith he has in his pen.
Can't even blame NL strategy since there is a universal DH.Kershaw is like the race horse that will run until he collapses. It is up to his proverbial jockey (Roberts) to know when to pull in the reins.
Kershaw didnt fail the Dodgers. Roberts and by extension the Dodgers failed Kershaw.
If the error does not happen than it is possible neither does the double by Freeman, Now it does not matter.
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@dbarmonstar said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@aam34 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@phillydave35 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Maybe, but he was keeping them in it. 1 run on 1 hit isn’t going to win much. Their offense needs to wake up.
GREAT POINT. He did his job in my opinion. The bullpen and the offense did not have his back last night!
No he did not.
He did his job through 5 innings.
The 6th inning DID happen. He surrendered a hit to Acuna and doubles to Freeman and Ozuna.
You can't blame the error advancing Acuna to second, he would have scored on Freeman's double. And Ozuna would have certainly driven him in on his double.Even if Graterol would have shut the Braves down, it would have been 3-1 after 6 innings.
Roberts is the issue here. He took a banged up, fading veteran and got greedy and tried to run him out there for one more inning.
Shows you how little faith he has in his pen.
Can't even blame NL strategy since there is a universal DH.Kershaw is like the race horse that will run until he collapses. It is up to his proverbial jockey (Roberts) to know when to pull in the reins.
Kershaw didnt fail the Dodgers. Roberts and by extension the Dodgers failed Kershaw.
If the error does not happen than it is possible neither does the double by Freeman, Now it does not matter.
The error had no bearing on the double.
The question is would the runner have scored on a double from first?
The runner was Acuna and with his speed it is not a stretch to say he would have scored from first.
If the runner was Ozuna then you have an argument.Acuna is one of the faster baserunners in baseball. He has shown his speed through out the playoffs. And he is a super aggressive baserunner and we know Washington would have waved him home.
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I would say his is still a 2 or 3, Buehler is the ace on the dodgers . In the post season I trust Kershaw for One good outing and Urias has been great.
Sorry brother, but Kershaw at this point is a 4 at best.
He cant be counted on to take the mound every 5th day and when he does expecting more than 5 innings or 2 times through a lineup is not realistic.Can he have a good day and provide us a glimpse of what he once was?
Absolutely
He is simply not consistent enough to be relied on so heavily.
The Dodgers need to find a pitcher, preferably on a short term deal, until more prospects develop.Bauer wants big money but he wants a 1 yr deal. $30-35m for one yr?
Sign him.
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@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@dbarmonstar said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@ItsaCanesthing said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@aam34 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
@phillydave35 said in Kershaw crumbles in the big playoff game (again):
Maybe, but he was keeping them in it. 1 run on 1 hit isn’t going to win much. Their offense needs to wake up.
GREAT POINT. He did his job in my opinion. The bullpen and the offense did not have his back last night!
No he did not.
He did his job through 5 innings.
The 6th inning DID happen. He surrendered a hit to Acuna and doubles to Freeman and Ozuna.
You can't blame the error advancing Acuna to second, he would have scored on Freeman's double. And Ozuna would have certainly driven him in on his double.Even if Graterol would have shut the Braves down, it would have been 3-1 after 6 innings.
Roberts is the issue here. He took a banged up, fading veteran and got greedy and tried to run him out there for one more inning.
Shows you how little faith he has in his pen.
Can't even blame NL strategy since there is a universal DH.Kershaw is like the race horse that will run until he collapses. It is up to his proverbial jockey (Roberts) to know when to pull in the reins.
Kershaw didnt fail the Dodgers. Roberts and by extension the Dodgers failed Kershaw.
If the error does not happen than it is possible neither does the double by Freeman, Now it does not matter.
The error had no bearing on the double.
The question is would the runner have scored on a double from first?
The runner was Acuna and with his speed it is not a stretch to say he would have scored from first.
If the runner was Ozuna then you have an argument.Acuna is one of the faster baserunners in baseball. He has shown his speed through out the playoffs. And he is a super aggressive baserunner and we know Washington would have waved him home.
\Disagree, The defense would have been set differently and the pitch could have been different. How you pitch a guy with runner of first and runner in scoring position is different and defenses now play different with all the shifts. If Freeman still hits a double yeah it is a possible he would have scored.
