The three features that received the most L's in todays stream
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@TheHungryHole said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
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@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
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@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
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@jfenton8287 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
but putting them out of reach for those offline players pushes them away.
I'm a mostly-offliner and I was able to acquire every purchasable card in the game, including Chipper, Babe, Kimbrell, Gagne: the whole lot of them.
You CAN do it. The question is: how bad do you want to?
No, the question is, "What do you do with all of those great cards?" The only mode any fun to use them is conquest, and for that you definitely do not need those cards. It is a waste of time and/or money for offline players to bother with collecting DD cards. SDS needs to give offline players something more to do with their DD team.
I mean... it's supposed to be an online mode, that's where their focus is..
Ok. So then offline players should not play DD. Is that your suggestion?
If you think there's nothing to do for offline players then yes?
That is my suggestion too. Stop playing DD if you are an offline player until SDS gives offline players more to do with their cards.
Or just play online like the mode is built for
The premise is offline players. Sure, you can change the premise to "just play online", but then you are not an offline only player and there is no discussion.
not to stack on Skepple here but he is right - DD is an online mode - if you don't like there is plenty offline stuff to do
Yes there is plenty of "stuff" to do, but not with your DD collection of cards, which players like to collect and use in some fashion. Some like to use them online and some like to use them offline. Saying, "play the way I like to play", does not help. If SDS wants DD to be online only, then they should make it online only, and yet there is offline play in DD so that everyone is tempted to buy stubs. If they want to continue that, then they need to expand offline play with a persons collection. Stop trying to have it both ways and ignoring offline players. Make it online only and then there will be nothing for offline players to complain about.
i understand you are upset about this. i am not here to gaslight anything. i just think that DD is an online mode always was, and is a core of the way DD plays. however you and SDS grow the offline - that sounds great for you guys. i would hate to see DD online anything sacrificed, and i welcome the idea of MORE online only rewards (like the events of 2019 earning after so many W's etc.)
I think here is where some fights on here tend to break out. Some people feel that catering to offline players is going to take away resources spent on fixing, improving, or implementing new things for online players. Such as perhaps a separate RS that is more competitive, where user input is more and there is virtually no RNG and have to use the same hitting interface. So those "online people" hate the thought of an online game making things more offline and exchanges get heated.
Every one wants to play DD their own way and I think every one should be allowed to do that without being told by others that they are wrong or that it isnt meant to be played that way.
absolutely man we've also spoken before about this very issue
I hate online play with a passion, but I will fight for you guys to have a a separate RS that has less RNG, because I support you guys in your endeavor to have more things your way. I dont think catering to one side or the other is a big deal, they are trying to make all of us happy. It's a nearly impossible task, but they try.
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@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@TheHungryHole said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@TheHungryHole said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@TheHungryHole said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@skepple15 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@Vipersneak said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@SaveFarris said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@jfenton8287 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
but putting them out of reach for those offline players pushes them away.
I'm a mostly-offliner and I was able to acquire every purchasable card in the game, including Chipper, Babe, Kimbrell, Gagne: the whole lot of them.
You CAN do it. The question is: how bad do you want to?
No, the question is, "What do you do with all of those great cards?" The only mode any fun to use them is conquest, and for that you definitely do not need those cards. It is a waste of time and/or money for offline players to bother with collecting DD cards. SDS needs to give offline players something more to do with their DD team.
I mean... it's supposed to be an online mode, that's where their focus is..
Ok. So then offline players should not play DD. Is that your suggestion?
If you think there's nothing to do for offline players then yes?
That is my suggestion too. Stop playing DD if you are an offline player until SDS gives offline players more to do with their cards.
Or just play online like the mode is built for
The premise is offline players. Sure, you can change the premise to "just play online", but then you are not an offline only player and there is no discussion.
not to stack on Skepple here but he is right - DD is an online mode - if you don't like there is plenty offline stuff to do
Yes there is plenty of "stuff" to do, but not with your DD collection of cards, which players like to collect and use in some fashion. Some like to use them online and some like to use them offline. Saying, "play the way I like to play", does not help. If SDS wants DD to be online only, then they should make it online only, and yet there is offline play in DD so that everyone is tempted to buy stubs. If they want to continue that, then they need to expand offline play with a persons collection. Stop trying to have it both ways and ignoring offline players. Make it online only and then there will be nothing for offline players to complain about.
i understand you are upset about this. i am not here to gaslight anything. i just think that DD is an online mode always was, and is a core of the way DD plays. however you and SDS grow the offline - that sounds great for you guys. i would hate to see DD online anything sacrificed, and i welcome the idea of MORE online only rewards (like the events of 2019 earning after so many W's etc.)
I think here is where some fights on here tend to break out. Some people feel that catering to offline players is going to take away resources spent on fixing, improving, or implementing new things for online players. Such as perhaps a separate RS that is more competitive, where user input is more and there is virtually no RNG and have to use the same hitting interface. So those "online people" hate the thought of an online game making things more offline and exchanges get heated.
Every one wants to play DD their own way and I think every one should be allowed to do that without being told by others that they are wrong or that it isnt meant to be played that way.
absolutely man we've also spoken before about this very issue
I hate online play with a passion, but I will fight for you guys to have a a separate RS that has less RNG, because I support you guys in your endeavor to have more things your way. I dont think catering to one side or the other is a big deal, they ate trying to make all of us happy. It's a nearly impossible task, but they try.
SDS is fantastic compared to other gaming companies - Bungie you can FK off with Destiny and how you mangled it over the years
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I just want to say, I don't agree that DD is supposed to be an only online mode. Offline players have their place (I am mostly online, so I get where the online people are coming from, but I disagree)
However, it seems the major complaint is offline players don't have much to do with their DD teams.
Lets exam this.What Online players can do with their DD teams - Ranked seasons, events. That's it.
What Offline players can do with their DD teams - Conquest, Play vs Cpu, (Some moments, not enough imo, but hopefully they expand on that this year).
So it's not like Online has a wealth of modes to use their DD teams compared to offline.
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@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
I just want to say, I don't agree that DD is supposed to be an only online mode. Offline players have their place (I am mostly online, so I get where the online people are coming from, but I disagree)
However, it seems the major complaint is offline players don't have much to do with their DD teams.
Lets exam this.What Online players can do with their DD teams - Ranked seasons, events. That's it.
What Offline players can do with their DD teams - Conquest, Play vs Cpu, (Some moments, not enough imo, but hopefully they expand on that this year).
So it's not like Online has a wealth of modes to use their DD teams compared to offline.
The Complaint is no offline mode for 9 inn games except vs CPU. Nothing close to what RS is for Online players.
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@dbarmonstar said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
I just want to say, I don't agree that DD is supposed to be an only online mode. Offline players have their place (I am mostly online, so I get where the online people are coming from, but I disagree)
However, it seems the major complaint is offline players don't have much to do with their DD teams.
Lets exam this.What Online players can do with their DD teams - Ranked seasons, events. That's it.
What Offline players can do with their DD teams - Conquest, Play vs Cpu, (Some moments, not enough imo, but hopefully they expand on that this year).
So it's not like Online has a wealth of modes to use their DD teams compared to offline.
The Complaint is no offline mode for 9 inn games except vs CPU. Nothing close to what RS is for Online players.
Online has no 9 inning mode besides RS. So offline has play vs cpu, online has ranked. Each only has one 9 inning mode.
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@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
Online has no 9 inning mode besides RS. So offline has play vs cpu, online has ranked. Each only has one 9 inning mode.
Those aren't the least bit comparable. RS has meaning and rewards. Vs. CPU has neither.
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@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@dbarmonstar said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
I just want to say, I don't agree that DD is supposed to be an only online mode. Offline players have their place (I am mostly online, so I get where the online people are coming from, but I disagree)
However, it seems the major complaint is offline players don't have much to do with their DD teams.
Lets exam this.What Online players can do with their DD teams - Ranked seasons, events. That's it.
What Offline players can do with their DD teams - Conquest, Play vs Cpu, (Some moments, not enough imo, but hopefully they expand on that this year).
So it's not like Online has a wealth of modes to use their DD teams compared to offline.
The Complaint is no offline mode for 9 inn games except vs CPU. Nothing close to what RS is for Online players.
Online has no 9 inning mode besides RS. So offline has play vs cpu, online has ranked. Each only has one 9 inning mode.
I understand that, like I said offline mode is nothing close to RS.
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@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@dbarmonstar said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
I just want to say, I don't agree that DD is supposed to be an only online mode. Offline players have their place (I am mostly online, so I get where the online people are coming from, but I disagree)
However, it seems the major complaint is offline players don't have much to do with their DD teams.
Lets exam this.What Online players can do with their DD teams - Ranked seasons, events. That's it.
What Offline players can do with their DD teams - Conquest, Play vs Cpu, (Some moments, not enough imo, but hopefully they expand on that this year).
So it's not like Online has a wealth of modes to use their DD teams compared to offline.
The Complaint is no offline mode for 9 inn games except vs CPU. Nothing close to what RS is for Online players.
Online has no 9 inning mode besides RS. So offline has play vs cpu, online has ranked. Each only has one 9 inning mode.
You’re not wrong, but RS has a goal and rewards while vs. CPU has none. You can make minimal progress towards the xp reward path or inning program, but those things can be done everywhere else in the game.
I think people just want a structured way to play 9 inning games offline in DD, not just random meaningless games.
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@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@dbarmonstar said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
I just want to say, I don't agree that DD is supposed to be an only online mode. Offline players have their place (I am mostly online, so I get where the online people are coming from, but I disagree)
However, it seems the major complaint is offline players don't have much to do with their DD teams.
Lets exam this.What Online players can do with their DD teams - Ranked seasons, events. That's it.
What Offline players can do with their DD teams - Conquest, Play vs Cpu, (Some moments, not enough imo, but hopefully they expand on that this year).
So it's not like Online has a wealth of modes to use their DD teams compared to offline.
The Complaint is no offline mode for 9 inn games except vs CPU. Nothing close to what RS is for Online players.
Online has no 9 inning mode besides RS. So offline has play vs cpu, online has ranked. Each only has one 9 inning mode.
Wrong, Online players can play friends as a casual game HTH
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@dbarmonstar said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
I just want to say, I don't agree that DD is supposed to be an only online mode. Offline players have their place (I am mostly online, so I get where the online people are coming from, but I disagree)
However, it seems the major complaint is offline players don't have much to do with their DD teams.
Lets exam this.What Online players can do with their DD teams - Ranked seasons, events. That's it.
What Offline players can do with their DD teams - Conquest, Play vs Cpu, (Some moments, not enough imo, but hopefully they expand on that this year).
So it's not like Online has a wealth of modes to use their DD teams compared to offline.
The Complaint is no offline mode for 9 inn games except vs CPU. Nothing close to what RS is for Online players.
Online has no 9 inning mode besides RS. So offline has play vs cpu, online has ranked. Each only has one 9 inning mode.
You’re not wrong, but RS has a goal and rewards while vs. CPU has none. You can make minimal progress towards the xp reward path or inning program, but those things can be done everywhere else in the game.
And I agree with that, but reading through this thread, but people in this have said things like "Yes there is plenty of "stuff" to do, but not with your DD collection of cards"
Which is not true, offline has as many modes as online. Technically speaking, using that quote, there is as much offline as online.Is it as good? No, but it seems many people have been arguing that online has so much more to do.
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They could have gave the innings grind offline stat missions, it look like they were only online. They set the level you must play at AS or higher.
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I am not about complainers but I am about ideas and solutions for online and offline. I do think every card should be available to all users, Majority cards that are earned Online can be sold. I do not think the Prestige cards (Red Diamonds) can be sold on the market.
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@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@dbarmonstar said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
I just want to say, I don't agree that DD is supposed to be an only online mode. Offline players have their place (I am mostly online, so I get where the online people are coming from, but I disagree)
However, it seems the major complaint is offline players don't have much to do with their DD teams.
Lets exam this.What Online players can do with their DD teams - Ranked seasons, events. That's it.
What Offline players can do with their DD teams - Conquest, Play vs Cpu, (Some moments, not enough imo, but hopefully they expand on that this year).
So it's not like Online has a wealth of modes to use their DD teams compared to offline.
The Complaint is no offline mode for 9 inn games except vs CPU. Nothing close to what RS is for Online players.
Online has no 9 inning mode besides RS. So offline has play vs cpu, online has ranked. Each only has one 9 inning mode.
You’re not wrong, but RS has a goal and rewards while vs. CPU has none. You can make minimal progress towards the xp reward path or inning program, but those things can be done everywhere else in the game.
And I agree with that, but reading through this thread, but people in this have said things like "Yes there is plenty of "stuff" to do, but not with your DD collection of cards"
Which is not true, offline has as many modes as online. Technically speaking, using that quote, there is as much offline as online.Is it as good? No, but it seems many people have been arguing that online has so much more to do.
Obviously there’s stuff to do offline, but there’s much less things to work towards while using your DD team.
If SDS would’ve just implemented stat grinds available to do offline, I think people would’ve been a lot happier. They could’ve just given people stat missions for conquest, like in the 11th inning program at least.
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@dbarmonstar said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
They could have gave the innings grind offline stat missions, it look like they were only online. They set the level you must play at AS or higher.
Even if you jack up the requirements, I'd bet there are still plenty of H2H players who would play versus the CPU as the path of least resistance, leading back to the MLB 18 problem.
Besides which, even opening up the prestige stat missions to offline wouldn't be a selling point to me. That's too much like what was in 17 and 18. I'd much rather have meaningful games than meaningful tasks in meaningless games.
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@omegaminus_sk said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@dbarmonstar said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
They could have gave the innings grind offline stat missions, it look like they were only online. They set the level you must play at AS or higher.
Even if you jack up the requirements, I'd bet there are still plenty of H2H players who would play versus the CPU as the path of least resistance, leading back to the MLB 18 problem.
Besides which, even opening up the prestige stat missions to offline wouldn't be a selling point to me. That's too much like what was in 17 and 18. I'd much rather have meaningful games than meaningful tasks in meaningless games.
The problem was that 18 it was to much of offline for me I rarely played online cause of the stat missions. If you had say get 25 hits online with player A. made it 125 or 200 offline which would actually be easier. I play both. I would do the online. They could make the user lock in the choice where you can not do both. 25 hits online you get 5 stars and for 200 offline you get 2 stars. Those who really hate online it would take them awhile to accomplished like it did in 18 but not as long if you do it online.
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@omegaminus_sk said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@dbarmonstar said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
They could have gave the innings grind offline stat missions, it look like they were only online. They set the level you must play at AS or higher.
Even if you jack up the requirements, I'd bet there are still plenty of H2H players who would play versus the CPU as the path of least resistance, leading back to the MLB 18 problem.
Besides which, even opening up the prestige stat missions to offline wouldn't be a selling point to me. That's too much like what was in 17 and 18. I'd much rather have meaningful games than meaningful tasks in meaningless games.
This is not about me or about you it is about what is best for everyone. How can SDS make it good for everyone who loves playing DD.
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@dbarmonstar said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@dbarmonstar said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
I just want to say, I don't agree that DD is supposed to be an only online mode. Offline players have their place (I am mostly online, so I get where the online people are coming from, but I disagree)
However, it seems the major complaint is offline players don't have much to do with their DD teams.
Lets exam this.What Online players can do with their DD teams - Ranked seasons, events. That's it.
What Offline players can do with their DD teams - Conquest, Play vs Cpu, (Some moments, not enough imo, but hopefully they expand on that this year).
So it's not like Online has a wealth of modes to use their DD teams compared to offline.
The Complaint is no offline mode for 9 inn games except vs CPU. Nothing close to what RS is for Online players.
Online has no 9 inning mode besides RS. So offline has play vs cpu, online has ranked. Each only has one 9 inning mode.
Wrong, Online players can play friends as a casual game HTH
They also have Online Custom Leagues this year. Offline players can do this, but have to kick out users to get CPU control.
Again this isnt a me vs you arguement, just pointing out that online did get a new mode for their DD team
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@nflman2033 said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@dbarmonstar said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@dbarmonstar said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
@eatyum said in The three features that received the most L's in todays stream:
I just want to say, I don't agree that DD is supposed to be an only online mode. Offline players have their place (I am mostly online, so I get where the online people are coming from, but I disagree)
However, it seems the major complaint is offline players don't have much to do with their DD teams.
Lets exam this.What Online players can do with their DD teams - Ranked seasons, events. That's it.
What Offline players can do with their DD teams - Conquest, Play vs Cpu, (Some moments, not enough imo, but hopefully they expand on that this year).
So it's not like Online has a wealth of modes to use their DD teams compared to offline.
The Complaint is no offline mode for 9 inn games except vs CPU. Nothing close to what RS is for Online players.
Online has no 9 inning mode besides RS. So offline has play vs cpu, online has ranked. Each only has one 9 inning mode.
Wrong, Online players can play friends as a casual game HTH
They also have Online Custom Leagues this year. Offline players can do this, but have to kick out users to get CPU control.
Again this isnt a me vs you arguement, just pointing out that online did get a new mode for their DD team
Yeah that should be a good mode, I do not think I will do any of those but we shall see.I did not feel this was ever an argument, just opinions about the game.
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The concept of "play online or play another game mode", in a business sense, is idiotic. Diamond Dynasty is the only mode that is fresh ever year. Those "other modes" rarely get touched. As an owner of 19', why should I buy 20'? Is a roster update worth $60? So I can become "bros" with ballplayers in RTTS? Companies want to bring more players into their game modes, not push them away in groups. Especially when the devs push the idea that offline players can achieve everything that online players can achieve by "playing your way".
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I actually cant believe I am going to say this but sds should take a page out of EAs handbook and look into something like squad battles. They are boring as [censored] in football and hockey but they would be great for the offline crowd in mlb
