Billy Wagner buy orders
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@hoboadam said in Billy Wagner buy orders:
I proved my point on stub transfers happening everytime a new BR card hits the market. There's always a page or two of a buy and sell with the same time stamp, 15 different times in a row, within an hour.
You know why that is? Because people with 11-0 runs will hold off with the 12th game because they know a new card(s) will be released. Which means more stubs. Did that all the time last year, and so all those guys who have an 11-0 run active and win their 12th game right after the cards go live, they will be on the market.
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@raesONE said in Billy Wagner buy orders:
@hoboadam said in Billy Wagner buy orders:
I proved my point on stub transfers happening everytime a new BR card hits the market. There's always a page or two of a buy and sell with the same time stamp, 15 different times in a row, within an hour.
If there are 39 people wanting a 1m lefty upgrade to the card they already have, more power to them. It's not a supply and demand thing. On the 20th and 21st, many orders filled below a million.
You know why that is? Because people with 11-0 runs will hold off with the 12th game because they know a new card(s) will be released. Which means more stubs. Done that all the time last year, and so all those guys who have an 11-0 run active and win their 12th game right after the cards go live, they will be on the market.
Alomar was there too dude.
I know guys hold. But when there are zero orders to buy at a million and then magically a 1m buy and sell, it's a transfer. I would know. I was watching Wagner real time since the card dropped.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ztO-m4QD4xaZL-M2DL8abiEJu9pkBDNq/view?usp=drivesdk
Just an old screenshot from one page I took back in August.
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@hoboadam said in Billy Wagner buy orders:
@raesONE said in Billy Wagner buy orders:
@hoboadam said in Billy Wagner buy orders:
I proved my point on stub transfers happening everytime a new BR card hits the market. There's always a page or two of a buy and sell with the same time stamp, 15 different times in a row, within an hour.
If there are 39 people wanting a 1m lefty upgrade to the card they already have, more power to them. It's not a supply and demand thing. On the 20th and 21st, many orders filled below a million.
You know why that is? Because people with 11-0 runs will hold off with the 12th game because they know a new card(s) will be released. Which means more stubs. Done that all the time last year, and so all those guys who have an 11-0 run active and win their 12th game right after the cards go live, they will be on the market.
Alomar was there too dude.
I know guys hold. But when there are zero orders to buy at a million and then magically a 1m buy and sell, it's a transfer. I would know. I was watching Wagner real time since the card dropped.
That still proves nothing. A buddy of mine who's active on this forum as well paid 1M for Alomar, admitting he knew was overpaying way too much but he didn't care because he's a big Alomar fan and he has stubs to burn like everyone else.
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I overpaid for Wagner too.
Stub transfers happen on BR cards at launch. If you don't believe that, you're more stubborn than anybody I've ever seen on these forums.
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@hoboadam said in Billy Wagner buy orders:
I overpaid for Wagner too.
Stub transfers happen on BR cards at launch. If you don't believe that, you're more stubborn than anybody I've ever seen on these forums.
I never made that statement though, that's a conclusion you drew because I opposed your theory that this is happening with Wagner.
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I'm done arguing with you.
You add value to most things on TSN, but when you dig in your heels, your stuck up european attitude turns me off.
Enjoy your day. I'm Audi 5000.
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@hoboadam said in Billy Wagner buy orders:
I'm done arguing with you.
You add value to most things on TSN, but when you dig in your heels, your stuck up european attitude turns me off.
Enjoy your day. I'm Audi 5000.
That's because I have an allergy to baseless speculation. Happens too much in the world already and it causes damage. Maybe not around here, because all this doesn't mean a thing, but it's a matter of principle. If you want to point out my European background for that, that's fine. I'd say its because I'm a stand up kind of guy who values factual insights over hearsay and speculative theories.
Good day to you as well.
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This is NOT happening for Wagner lol it’s sooo easy to make stubs and ppl have MILLIONS of stubs so why wouldn’t you buy the best lefty reliever on the market.. I had a buy order in for Wagner when there was 10 orders up and it just kept rising and took like 5 days to go through.. ppl just have the stubs to spend so why wouldn’t you buy him?
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There haven't been any worthwhile cards released on the market in a while, really the last one being the 8th inning bosses, combine that with how many stubs are floating out there, and I can easily see that many people putting in an order to get Wagner.
It's incredibly easy to make stubs, and so many YouTubers do market videos or investments stuff, that many people are getting smarter with stubs. Being a stub millionaire isn't as impressive this year, (I have 4.3m stubs + guys like Wagner and Alomar myself). So I would bet you are underestimating the amount of people who are both 1. interested in Wagner and 2. have the stubs to buy
I bought Wagner on release day for 825k and would never think of selling him, best LHP by far I've used.
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Here is the other thing. Those one million buy orders go in order if when they were placed. So with 35 of them, how in the world would two people be able to work that out? That will work when there are no standing 1 M orders, but not now.
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The only, and I mean only, issue, is people that want him even for a million stubs aren’t going to get him, at least not for a very long time.
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Don’t bother , OP is a stubborn American who believes his way/thinking is the only right way . He doesn’t care if what he says is unproven and lacks facts. He also believes in unicorns and that Trump is the greatest president . He also believes COVID is a hoax.
Sigh , Americans.
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I would keep politics out of this forum, that’s a time bomb waiting to happen.
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@hoboadam said in Billy Wagner buy orders:
But people that have 1m stubs aren't sinking it into one pitcher.
It's the multi millionaire guys.
There's NO WAY that 39 orders are 30+ people. It's a way to have stubs in the market, but not hit the cap of stubs in hand.
What's the cap this year? Used to be 2 million
Im no money spent and have around 3.5 million stubs and Wagner that I payed 1m for, also Mize and feller. Stubs are so easy this year, I could easily make 1m stubs stubs every week if I wanted to.
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He’s he best lefty reliever in the game, which is the most shallow position. Anyone building an elite team Wagner is a must have. Makes perfect sense, glad I got him long ago. I’m surprised it’s not over 100 orders w how easy it is to make stubs and the tens or hundreds of thousands of people who play the game
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I have 5 million stubs I'm at the limit...I got 300k in 1111 an 2222 buy orders on things that will never ever sell for that price an if it did I'd resell it an make a profit....with wagner I'd never put a million stubs order in to hoard stubs if anything I'd put it a 500k or less order in because I know it won't sell for that an again if it did I'd put it back up for a million for profit..there's just better ways to hoard the stubs but as someone said there's nothing really to buy right now I got mantle trout an every other card I want to have...this really has been the best year to make stubs an I love it hope they never change it
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There are 50 buy orders for 1,000,000 from one person alone
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@kjlugo said in Billy Wagner buy orders:
There are 50 buy orders for 1,000,000 from one person alone
No man, that’s 50 different orders for a million stubs. They ain’t from the same guy
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@kjlugo said in Billy Wagner buy orders:
There are 50 buy orders for 1,000,000 from one person alone
No, 1M stubs is the highest you can put a buy or sell order at. So no one can up it, so the only way people can obtain Wagner is by putting in a 1M stub order, and wait for the others to fill, so if there are 34 orders, and you put in the 35th, you have to wait for 34 Wagners to sell.
So it's not one person, it's a bunch of people who all want Wagner, but can't bid any higher.
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Here's the thing, do stub transfers happen? Absolutely. I dont think anyone is trying to deny that. What people are denying is your claim that the buy orders on Billy Wagner have anything to do with that. I assume the type of people who do stub transfers are impatient so why would they do it on a popular card that they will have to wait for if there are more orders in front of them flr the same price? They wouldn't, they would probably do it on some random card nlone is paying attention to.
Short version: stub transfers happen AND those Billy Wagner orders are legit.
