How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!
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@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
It not wasting my time responding to you. Read your post yourself. Done
I really, really hope this is a troll account.
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@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
It not wasting my time responding to you. Read your post yourself. Done
And right there you in fact did waste your time in responding to him. You played yourself.
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@eatyum said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
And you sir do not “grasp” decorum! Who knows how players are selected for the game and whom/when players/MLB give rights for their “likeness” other than Sony/SDS. Do you work for any of them? If so, please enlighten us on the internals of these decisions. If not, explain how it is you are so certain of your answer that I possibly have submitted an unfathomable suggestion for players to be included. Did they contact Lou Gehrig, Babe Ruth, Cy Young, etc from the dead for their inclusion? If RA Dickey is excluded for some reason, I did name several other knuckleballers in my post. I found your reply very sarcastic and unreliable!
Sale was just an example, he, Sale was not the point and is irrelevant to the point I was trying to make.
Obviously you do not “GRASP” nor understand the CONTEXT in submission of a SUGGESTION!We do know how these things work. Of course they didn't contact Lou Gehrig or Cy Young, but they negotiated with their family estates who own the rights to their name.
It's really simple > Active players are covered under the MLB Union, SDS has rights to use them however they see fit.
Retired players most be negotiated with individually, either with the player himself if he is alive, or with the family estate/corporation that owns the name if he is not.I don't think that's entirely accurate, SDS has agreements with the Hall and the alumni association. I seriously doubt they negotiate individually, otherwise the credit screen would have more disclaimers of where their rights to players come from
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On 17 they were a lot easier to hit. 18 they were a Nightmare.
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@foge011 said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@eatyum said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
And you sir do not “grasp” decorum! Who knows how players are selected for the game and whom/when players/MLB give rights for their “likeness” other than Sony/SDS. Do you work for any of them? If so, please enlighten us on the internals of these decisions. If not, explain how it is you are so certain of your answer that I possibly have submitted an unfathomable suggestion for players to be included. Did they contact Lou Gehrig, Babe Ruth, Cy Young, etc from the dead for their inclusion? If RA Dickey is excluded for some reason, I did name several other knuckleballers in my post. I found your reply very sarcastic and unreliable!
Sale was just an example, he, Sale was not the point and is irrelevant to the point I was trying to make.
Obviously you do not “GRASP” nor understand the CONTEXT in submission of a SUGGESTION!We do know how these things work. Of course they didn't contact Lou Gehrig or Cy Young, but they negotiated with their family estates who own the rights to their name.
It's really simple > Active players are covered under the MLB Union, SDS has rights to use them however they see fit.
Retired players most be negotiated with individually, either with the player himself if he is alive, or with the family estate/corporation that owns the name if he is not.I don't think that's entirely accurate, SDS has agreements with the Hall and the alumni association. I seriously doubt they negotiate individually, otherwise the credit screen would have more disclaimers of where their rights to players come from
While some rights may come from there, a lot of players (The good ones) withhold their rights and do not join the alumni association because they know their name is valuable. If it was the case of being in agreement with the Hall of Fame, why is guys like Mantle not in?
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@eatyum said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@foge011 said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@eatyum said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
And you sir do not “grasp” decorum! Who knows how players are selected for the game and whom/when players/MLB give rights for their “likeness” other than Sony/SDS. Do you work for any of them? If so, please enlighten us on the internals of these decisions. If not, explain how it is you are so certain of your answer that I possibly have submitted an unfathomable suggestion for players to be included. Did they contact Lou Gehrig, Babe Ruth, Cy Young, etc from the dead for their inclusion? If RA Dickey is excluded for some reason, I did name several other knuckleballers in my post. I found your reply very sarcastic and unreliable!
Sale was just an example, he, Sale was not the point and is irrelevant to the point I was trying to make.
Obviously you do not “GRASP” nor understand the CONTEXT in submission of a SUGGESTION!We do know how these things work. Of course they didn't contact Lou Gehrig or Cy Young, but they negotiated with their family estates who own the rights to their name.
It's really simple > Active players are covered under the MLB Union, SDS has rights to use them however they see fit.
Retired players most be negotiated with individually, either with the player himself if he is alive, or with the family estate/corporation that owns the name if he is not.I don't think that's entirely accurate, SDS has agreements with the Hall and the alumni association. I seriously doubt they negotiate individually, otherwise the credit screen would have more disclaimers of where their rights to players come from
While some rights may come from there, a lot of players (The good ones) withhold their rights and do not join the alumni association because they know their name is valuable. If it was the case of being in agreement with the Hall of Fame, why is guys like Mantle not in?
I don't know why Mantle is not in the game. Maybe the bigger the name the bigger the blanket price. For a studio the size of SDS, I don't think they have all kinds of individual licenses floating around.
I could be wrong or you could be wrong, we'll never know for sure because neither of us work in legal at SDS or Sony. -
@foge011 said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@eatyum said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@foge011 said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@eatyum said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
And you sir do not “grasp” decorum! Who knows how players are selected for the game and whom/when players/MLB give rights for their “likeness” other than Sony/SDS. Do you work for any of them? If so, please enlighten us on the internals of these decisions. If not, explain how it is you are so certain of your answer that I possibly have submitted an unfathomable suggestion for players to be included. Did they contact Lou Gehrig, Babe Ruth, Cy Young, etc from the dead for their inclusion? If RA Dickey is excluded for some reason, I did name several other knuckleballers in my post. I found your reply very sarcastic and unreliable!
Sale was just an example, he, Sale was not the point and is irrelevant to the point I was trying to make.
Obviously you do not “GRASP” nor understand the CONTEXT in submission of a SUGGESTION!We do know how these things work. Of course they didn't contact Lou Gehrig or Cy Young, but they negotiated with their family estates who own the rights to their name.
It's really simple > Active players are covered under the MLB Union, SDS has rights to use them however they see fit.
Retired players most be negotiated with individually, either with the player himself if he is alive, or with the family estate/corporation that owns the name if he is not.I don't think that's entirely accurate, SDS has agreements with the Hall and the alumni association. I seriously doubt they negotiate individually, otherwise the credit screen would have more disclaimers of where their rights to players come from
While some rights may come from there, a lot of players (The good ones) withhold their rights and do not join the alumni association because they know their name is valuable. If it was the case of being in agreement with the Hall of Fame, why is guys like Mantle not in?
I don't know why Mantle is not in the game. Maybe the bigger the name the bigger the blanket price. For a studio the size of SDS, I don't think they have all kinds of individual licenses floating around.
I could be wrong or you could be wrong, we'll never know for sure because neither of us work in legal at SDS or Sony.So Mantle is a bigger name then Babe Ruth who is also in the HoF? If they can afford the Babe Ruth "blanket price", pretty sure Mantle would be in there.
That example isn't even necessary because we know the HOF does not have Babe Ruth's rights. A simple google search shows Luminary group, a corporation owns all rights to Ruth's name and likeness. Most HOF players chose not to let the HOF have their rights, because they know their name is valuable.
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@eatyum said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@foge011 said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@eatyum said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@foge011 said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@eatyum said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
And you sir do not “grasp” decorum! Who knows how players are selected for the game and whom/when players/MLB give rights for their “likeness” other than Sony/SDS. Do you work for any of them? If so, please enlighten us on the internals of these decisions. If not, explain how it is you are so certain of your answer that I possibly have submitted an unfathomable suggestion for players to be included. Did they contact Lou Gehrig, Babe Ruth, Cy Young, etc from the dead for their inclusion? If RA Dickey is excluded for some reason, I did name several other knuckleballers in my post. I found your reply very sarcastic and unreliable!
Sale was just an example, he, Sale was not the point and is irrelevant to the point I was trying to make.
Obviously you do not “GRASP” nor understand the CONTEXT in submission of a SUGGESTION!We do know how these things work. Of course they didn't contact Lou Gehrig or Cy Young, but they negotiated with their family estates who own the rights to their name.
It's really simple > Active players are covered under the MLB Union, SDS has rights to use them however they see fit.
Retired players most be negotiated with individually, either with the player himself if he is alive, or with the family estate/corporation that owns the name if he is not.I don't think that's entirely accurate, SDS has agreements with the Hall and the alumni association. I seriously doubt they negotiate individually, otherwise the credit screen would have more disclaimers of where their rights to players come from
While some rights may come from there, a lot of players (The good ones) withhold their rights and do not join the alumni association because they know their name is valuable. If it was the case of being in agreement with the Hall of Fame, why is guys like Mantle not in?
I don't know why Mantle is not in the game. Maybe the bigger the name the bigger the blanket price. For a studio the size of SDS, I don't think they have all kinds of individual licenses floating around.
I could be wrong or you could be wrong, we'll never know for sure because neither of us work in legal at SDS or Sony.So Mantle is a bigger name then Babe Ruth who is also in the HoF? If they can afford the Babe Ruth "blanket price", pretty sure Mantle would be in there.
That example isn't even necessary because we know the HOF does not have Babe Ruth's rights. A simple google search shows Luminary group, a corporation owns all rights to Ruth's name and likeness. Most HOF players chose not to let the HOF have their rights, because they know their name is valuable.
This is correct. In fact even active players can decide not to sign the MLBPA group licensing agreement and be individually represented. Barry Bonds was a notable player who did this, which meant his license rights were not included with MLBPA, but licensed directly through his agents. Jordan did this in the NBA as well.
Retired players can choose to be represented as part of the alumni association or be individually represented.
Generally, many retired players who feel they can make better deals due to their specific situations choose to not be represented by the alumni association, but instead their own family trusts, individual agents, or other group licensing companies.
Any players, whether active or retired who choose not to be represented by the MLBPA or Alumni association would require that companies looking for their rights to negotiate directly with their desired agents/agency.
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@eatyum said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@foge011 said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@eatyum said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@foge011 said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@eatyum said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
And you sir do not “grasp” decorum! Who knows how players are selected for the game and whom/when players/MLB give rights for their “likeness” other than Sony/SDS. Do you work for any of them? If so, please enlighten us on the internals of these decisions. If not, explain how it is you are so certain of your answer that I possibly have submitted an unfathomable suggestion for players to be included. Did they contact Lou Gehrig, Babe Ruth, Cy Young, etc from the dead for their inclusion? If RA Dickey is excluded for some reason, I did name several other knuckleballers in my post. I found your reply very sarcastic and unreliable!
Sale was just an example, he, Sale was not the point and is irrelevant to the point I was trying to make.
Obviously you do not “GRASP” nor understand the CONTEXT in submission of a SUGGESTION!We do know how these things work. Of course they didn't contact Lou Gehrig or Cy Young, but they negotiated with their family estates who own the rights to their name.
It's really simple > Active players are covered under the MLB Union, SDS has rights to use them however they see fit.
Retired players most be negotiated with individually, either with the player himself if he is alive, or with the family estate/corporation that owns the name if he is not.I don't think that's entirely accurate, SDS has agreements with the Hall and the alumni association. I seriously doubt they negotiate individually, otherwise the credit screen would have more disclaimers of where their rights to players come from
While some rights may come from there, a lot of players (The good ones) withhold their rights and do not join the alumni association because they know their name is valuable. If it was the case of being in agreement with the Hall of Fame, why is guys like Mantle not in?
I don't know why Mantle is not in the game. Maybe the bigger the name the bigger the blanket price. For a studio the size of SDS, I don't think they have all kinds of individual licenses floating around.
I could be wrong or you could be wrong, we'll never know for sure because neither of us work in legal at SDS or Sony.So Mantle is a bigger name then Babe Ruth who is also in the HoF? If they can afford the Babe Ruth "blanket price", pretty sure Mantle would be in there.
That example isn't even necessary because we know the HOF does not have Babe Ruth's rights. A simple google search shows Luminary group, a corporation owns all rights to Ruth's name and likeness. Most HOF players chose not to let the HOF have their rights, because they know their name is valuable.
Is it possible Sony/SDS considers off the field character in who it selects for the games?
Have Pete Rose (gambling), Doc Gooden (substance abuse), Mickey Mantle (alcoholism), Lenny Dykstra (umm... nuts? for lack of better description), etc... ever been in the game?
Again, I am new to The Show (never liked how Baseball played on consoles before playing this) and do not know the previous players in game.It is an intriguing question of how these players are selected, under what criteria and how they are negotiated with or on behalf of for their inclusion/exclusion. Especially the ones whom have passed away and the ones with checkered pasts. Also, possibly disagreeing with SDS regarding their player rating..?
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@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@eatyum said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@foge011 said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@eatyum said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@foge011 said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@eatyum said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
@Psycho-_-Kill-er said in How about a Cy Young Winner in ‘20!:
And you sir do not “grasp” decorum! Who knows how players are selected for the game and whom/when players/MLB give rights for their “likeness” other than Sony/SDS. Do you work for any of them? If so, please enlighten us on the internals of these decisions. If not, explain how it is you are so certain of your answer that I possibly have submitted an unfathomable suggestion for players to be included. Did they contact Lou Gehrig, Babe Ruth, Cy Young, etc from the dead for their inclusion? If RA Dickey is excluded for some reason, I did name several other knuckleballers in my post. I found your reply very sarcastic and unreliable!
Sale was just an example, he, Sale was not the point and is irrelevant to the point I was trying to make.
Obviously you do not “GRASP” nor understand the CONTEXT in submission of a SUGGESTION!We do know how these things work. Of course they didn't contact Lou Gehrig or Cy Young, but they negotiated with their family estates who own the rights to their name.
It's really simple > Active players are covered under the MLB Union, SDS has rights to use them however they see fit.
Retired players most be negotiated with individually, either with the player himself if he is alive, or with the family estate/corporation that owns the name if he is not.I don't think that's entirely accurate, SDS has agreements with the Hall and the alumni association. I seriously doubt they negotiate individually, otherwise the credit screen would have more disclaimers of where their rights to players come from
While some rights may come from there, a lot of players (The good ones) withhold their rights and do not join the alumni association because they know their name is valuable. If it was the case of being in agreement with the Hall of Fame, why is guys like Mantle not in?
I don't know why Mantle is not in the game. Maybe the bigger the name the bigger the blanket price. For a studio the size of SDS, I don't think they have all kinds of individual licenses floating around.
I could be wrong or you could be wrong, we'll never know for sure because neither of us work in legal at SDS or Sony.So Mantle is a bigger name then Babe Ruth who is also in the HoF? If they can afford the Babe Ruth "blanket price", pretty sure Mantle would be in there.
That example isn't even necessary because we know the HOF does not have Babe Ruth's rights. A simple google search shows Luminary group, a corporation owns all rights to Ruth's name and likeness. Most HOF players chose not to let the HOF have their rights, because they know their name is valuable.
Is it possible Sony/SDS considers off the field character in who it selects for the games?
Have Pete Rose (gambling), Doc Gooden (substance abuse), Mickey Mantle (alcoholism), Lenny Dykstra (umm... nuts? for lack of better description), etc... ever been in the game?
Again, I am new to The Show (never liked how Baseball played on consoles before playing this) and do not know the previous players in game.It is an intriguing question of how these players are selected, under what criteria and how they are negotiated with or on behalf of for their inclusion/exclusion. Especially the ones whom have passed away and the ones with checkered pasts. Also, possibly disagreeing with SDS regarding their player rating..?
Dykstra was on 18
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