Am I Crazy?
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@maurice91932 said in Am I Crazy?:
Maybe I’m not clear in what I’m saying.
So they released a total of 14 WS Rewards this year, right? It was something like three cards released for the first season, then they just kept adding one reward per season, and allowing us to choose between that reward and all the previous ones.
So now we are at a point where if you make WS, you’re choosing one of fourteen cards.
Why can’t that be the way it is from Day One? You can still only make WS once per season, and claim one reward. You could make WS every season and still not have every card.
By that same method, Event rewards could be released in the same manner. POTM cards could not, obviously.
It CHOICE that I’m asking for.
But okay, not a soul agrees with me. I’m just mad that I really like some of the later releases, and would have liked to get 500 at-bats with them, but I’m over this game now. Meanwhile, I got a lot of bats with cards I didn’t even really like early in the year simply because they were the best I had at that position.
So who’s ever going to use a WS reward that doesn’t compare to somebody like Ruth or Chipper? Alex Gordon was good when he was released, but with this idea there’s no point in even having other guys like that as WS rewards.
As for events, that would take away the whole point of them. Event rewards are supposed to be exclusive to their respective events. People who play those events get a card that will be quite rare in the future, because it cannot be earned anymore. Nobody would choose an 86 HW Ryan Braun if much better SS cards are also available.
This would basically make any WS or event reward that isn’t the best completely useless, to the point where there might as well not even be lesser WS or event rewards because nobody would need to use them.
You aren’t supposed to have a God squad week one. Spreading content out helps keep lineups from getting too OP too quickly.
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We get what you are saying, and we've all listed why it's not a good idea, I think Trucker put it best there ^.
I'll add on to the business perspective side of it, it does not make sense for SDS either.
It would create a lot of excitement, maybe the first month and people rush to get the cards they want, but after that, that drive or desire falls away.
Whereas, in the current model (and this is just a simple analogy, SDS made it very friendly in 19 where you did not have to rush to buy stubs every week), SDS releases a card every week. Not every card will be highly sought after, but it carries that drive to get cards, and extends it all year.
Instead of "I need the 99 Babe Ruth, it is way better then the 99 Ty Cobb and I have no reason to buy Cobb"
Instead, Ty Cobb is released first, Babe Ruth doesn't exist yet. Therefore "I need to buy stubs to get that awesome Ty Cobb Card" and a couple months later "I need to buy stubs to replace Cobb with Babe Ruth"!You could even replace the word "buy stubs' with "I need to play to earn" and it works the same. It provides engagement with the game year round, whether that be buying or playing.
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Got it. I’m crazy. Lol
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But people get god squads on Day One anyway when they do the collections immediately after release. I don’t see how my way makes that any worse.
But it appears everyone else likes the slow release. I guess I am the only one that doesn’t. When they release a great card late it doesn’t make me want to play the game any more frequently. It makes me mad that they didn’t release it earlier. But I guess I’m rare in feeling that way.
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@maurice91932 said in Am I Crazy?:
But people get god squads on Day One anyway when they do the collections immediately after release. I don’t see how my way makes that any worse.
But it appears everyone else likes the slow release. I guess I am the only one that doesn’t. When they release a great card late it doesn’t make me want to play the game any more frequently. It makes me mad that they didn’t release it earlier. But I guess I’m rare in feeling that way.
There are people that have "better" cards then some at the start, but not really "god squads" at the beginning. You can't look at a squad from day one, and then look at a squad now and say, "Eh they're both god squads". I mean the first WS rewards were guys like Bret Boone and Alex Gordon, the only real 99's were Hornsby/Mays/Pudge and the XP reward path guys.
So many people used Lofton the first few months, you don't see that now. Your way completely changes that.
I had the 86 David Robertson in my pen for the longest time, but in your way, he's obsolete the first day.
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I thought they did a great job with choice packs and stubs earned via gameplay, though. Fantastic. My only gripe is the slow release of cards.
And pitching. Pitching sucked. Haha.
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I kinda agree, most people play this for 6-7 months and have never seen or used Babe Ruth since SDS paid for his rights, it’ll be the same thing next year. Some people wanna feel super special and grind every card to tell you how easy and free it is...3500 hours later. I’d rather SDS unlock all the players early but force people to choose between them without the ability to unlock them all until a much much later date. That way we’d actually get line up diversity with great cards day 1.
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@ChArTeRBuS said in Am I Crazy?:
I kinda agree, most people play this for 6-7 months and have never seen or used Babe Ruth since SDS paid for his rights, it’ll be the same thing next year. Some people wanna feel super special and grind every card to tell you how easy and free it is...3500 hours later. I’d rather SDS unlock all the players early but force people to choose between them without the ability to unlock them all until a much much later date. That way we’d actually get line up diversity with great cards day 1.
So how do you propose to make the SS Alex Gordon's type cards useable? How do any of those cards become usable when you can get 99's? How do you propose SDS drive stub sales throughout the year when there is no excitement of new cards? How do you keep people engaged?
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@eatyum said in Am I Crazy?:
@ChArTeRBuS said in Am I Crazy?:
I kinda agree, most people play this for 6-7 months and have never seen or used Babe Ruth since SDS paid for his rights, it’ll be the same thing next year. Some people wanna feel super special and grind every card to tell you how easy and free it is...3500 hours later. I’d rather SDS unlock all the players early but force people to choose between them without the ability to unlock them all until a much much later date. That way we’d actually get line up diversity with great cards day 1.
So how do you propose to make the SS Alex Gordon's type cards useable? How do any of those cards become usable when you can get 99's? How do you propose SDS drive stub sales throughout the year when there is no excitement of new cards? How do you keep people engaged?
It also sounds like, based on his wording, that they wouldn’t be on the market until late in the year? Because if they were still on the market, it wouldn’t matter if we could only choose one, people would just buy whoever else they wanted off the market. But making WS rewards unsellable would make lots of people very upset.
This just doesn’t make much sense.
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@eatyum said in Am I Crazy?:
@ChArTeRBuS said in Am I Crazy?:
I kinda agree, most people play this for 6-7 months and have never seen or used Babe Ruth since SDS paid for his rights, it’ll be the same thing next year. Some people wanna feel super special and grind every card to tell you how easy and free it is...3500 hours later. I’d rather SDS unlock all the players early but force people to choose between them without the ability to unlock them all until a much much later date. That way we’d actually get line up diversity with great cards day 1.
So how do you propose to make the SS Alex Gordon's type cards useable? How do any of those cards become usable when you can get 99's? How do you propose SDS drive stub sales throughout the year when there is no excitement of new cards? How do you keep people engaged?
Because you guys are still struggling to grasp the very simple concept (Which SDS already does to a minor degree) that you don’t GET a team full of 99s the first week, there just AVAILABLE the same way Kershaw Ryan and others were this past year. Just add more choices, and room for choices to be made.
Alex Gordon was useable for people that wanted to use him. He was quite easily replaceable at anytime. I would have liked to use SS Bautista or Edwin anytime before 9 months of the game had passed, why not make Edwin, Gordon, Goldschmidt and the other mediocre SS available at the same time? You can choose yours I can choose mine. I don’t need mine, yours, and 15 different everyone else’s. There’s no reason to make some cards like those available 9 months later in the 9th inning 100 star choice pack and Alex Gordon the first month. Some people’s teams didn’t even get a SS for half the year how is that fun. Just let people choose what’s the harm?
Why release Gossage and the final Moments extreme segment with a month left? If anyone could have beat those missions in the first month with regular diamonds or golds they should be rewarded. People would rather sit around and wait for another treat from SDS is the issue. Jump, roll over, play dead, then these 120 games and collect your SS Vlad.
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@ChArTeRBuS said in Am I Crazy?:
@eatyum said in Am I Crazy?:
@ChArTeRBuS said in Am I Crazy?:
I kinda agree, most people play this for 6-7 months and have never seen or used Babe Ruth since SDS paid for his rights, it’ll be the same thing next year. Some people wanna feel super special and grind every card to tell you how easy and free it is...3500 hours later. I’d rather SDS unlock all the players early but force people to choose between them without the ability to unlock them all until a much much later date. That way we’d actually get line up diversity with great cards day 1.
So how do you propose to make the SS Alex Gordon's type cards useable? How do any of those cards become usable when you can get 99's? How do you propose SDS drive stub sales throughout the year when there is no excitement of new cards? How do you keep people engaged?
Because you guys are still struggling to grasp the very simple concept (Which SDS already does to a minor degree) that you don’t GET a team full of 99s the first week, there just AVAILABLE the same way Kershaw Ryan and others were this past year. Just add more choices, and room for choices to be made.
Alex Gordon was useable for people that wanted to use him. He was quite easily replaceable at anytime. I would have liked to use SS Bautista or Edwin anytime before 9 months of the game had passed, why not make Edwin, Gordon, Goldschmidt and the other mediocre SS available at the same time? You can choose yours I can choose mine. I don’t need mine, yours, and 15 different everyone else’s. There’s no reason to make some cards like those available 9 months later in the 9th inning 100 star choice pack and Alex Gordon the first month. Some people’s teams didn’t even get a SS for half the year how is that fun. Just let people choose what’s the harm?
Why release Gossage and the final Moments extreme segment with a month left? If anyone could have beat those missions in the first month with regular diamonds or golds they should be rewarded. People would rather sit around and wait for another treat from SDS is the issue. Jump, roll over, play dead, then these 120 games and collect your SS Vlad.
That's not the point. You are not getting our concept.
If we can PICK any player, why would anyone pick the Alex Gordon type cards? If you can pick Babe Ruth or an example you used in Edwin, why would anyone pick Edwin?'
If every card available first day, people are obviously only going to pick the Babe Ruth's of the world.
Let alone that all those paragraphs don't deal with How do you propose SDS drive stub sales throughout the year when there is no excitement of new cards?"
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@eatyum said in Am I Crazy?:
@ChArTeRBuS said in Am I Crazy?:
@eatyum said in Am I Crazy?:
@ChArTeRBuS said in Am I Crazy?:
I kinda agree, most people play this for 6-7 months and have never seen or used Babe Ruth since SDS paid for his rights, it’ll be the same thing next year. Some people wanna feel super special and grind every card to tell you how easy and free it is...3500 hours later. I’d rather SDS unlock all the players early but force people to choose between them without the ability to unlock them all until a much much later date. That way we’d actually get line up diversity with great cards day 1.
So how do you propose to make the SS Alex Gordon's type cards useable? How do any of those cards become usable when you can get 99's? How do you propose SDS drive stub sales throughout the year when there is no excitement of new cards? How do you keep people engaged?
Because you guys are still struggling to grasp the very simple concept (Which SDS already does to a minor degree) that you don’t GET a team full of 99s the first week, there just AVAILABLE the same way Kershaw Ryan and others were this past year. Just add more choices, and room for choices to be made.
Alex Gordon was useable for people that wanted to use him. He was quite easily replaceable at anytime. I would have liked to use SS Bautista or Edwin anytime before 9 months of the game had passed, why not make Edwin, Gordon, Goldschmidt and the other mediocre SS available at the same time? You can choose yours I can choose mine. I don’t need mine, yours, and 15 different everyone else’s. There’s no reason to make some cards like those available 9 months later in the 9th inning 100 star choice pack and Alex Gordon the first month. Some people’s teams didn’t even get a SS for half the year how is that fun. Just let people choose what’s the harm?
Why release Gossage and the final Moments extreme segment with a month left? If anyone could have beat those missions in the first month with regular diamonds or golds they should be rewarded. People would rather sit around and wait for another treat from SDS is the issue. Jump, roll over, play dead, then these 120 games and collect your SS Vlad.
That's not the point. You are not getting our concept.
If we can PICK any player, why would anyone pick the Alex Gordon type cards? If you can pick Babe Ruth or an example Edwin, why would anyone pick Edwin?'
If every card available first day, people are obviously only going to pick the Babe Ruth's of the world.
Lol yeah just add Babe Ruth into the mediocre SS pool I was talking about. I’m crazy, I thought he go in the higher tier choice with the other 99s but you probably forgot about them because your taking Babe over Chipper Griffey Williams Thomas Gagne Gwynn Henderson Trout Kershaw Rivera Alomar Schmidt and everyone else. It’s strange, it’s almost like the decision becomes harder the MORE cards you add to the choice not the opposite.
And stop calling a thread you didn’t start and an idea you don’t agree with “Our concept”
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Am I Crazy?:
@eatyum said in Am I Crazy?:
@ChArTeRBuS said in Am I Crazy?:
I kinda agree, most people play this for 6-7 months and have never seen or used Babe Ruth since SDS paid for his rights, it’ll be the same thing next year. Some people wanna feel super special and grind every card to tell you how easy and free it is...3500 hours later. I’d rather SDS unlock all the players early but force people to choose between them without the ability to unlock them all until a much much later date. That way we’d actually get line up diversity with great cards day 1.
So how do you propose to make the SS Alex Gordon's type cards useable? How do any of those cards become usable when you can get 99's? How do you propose SDS drive stub sales throughout the year when there is no excitement of new cards? How do you keep people engaged?
It also sounds like, based on his wording, that they wouldn’t be on the market until late in the year? Because if they were still on the market, it wouldn’t matter if we could only choose one, people would just buy whoever else they wanted off the market. But making WS rewards unsellable would make lots of people very upset.
This just doesn’t make much sense.
Thicker glasses Boomzy, my wording never mentioned a market.
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@ChArTeRBuS said in Am I Crazy?:
@eatyum said in Am I Crazy?:
@ChArTeRBuS said in Am I Crazy?:
@eatyum said in Am I Crazy?:
@ChArTeRBuS said in Am I Crazy?:
I kinda agree, most people play this for 6-7 months and have never seen or used Babe Ruth since SDS paid for his rights, it’ll be the same thing next year. Some people wanna feel super special and grind every card to tell you how easy and free it is...3500 hours later. I’d rather SDS unlock all the players early but force people to choose between them without the ability to unlock them all until a much much later date. That way we’d actually get line up diversity with great cards day 1.
So how do you propose to make the SS Alex Gordon's type cards useable? How do any of those cards become usable when you can get 99's? How do you propose SDS drive stub sales throughout the year when there is no excitement of new cards? How do you keep people engaged?
Because you guys are still struggling to grasp the very simple concept (Which SDS already does to a minor degree) that you don’t GET a team full of 99s the first week, there just AVAILABLE the same way Kershaw Ryan and others were this past year. Just add more choices, and room for choices to be made.
Alex Gordon was useable for people that wanted to use him. He was quite easily replaceable at anytime. I would have liked to use SS Bautista or Edwin anytime before 9 months of the game had passed, why not make Edwin, Gordon, Goldschmidt and the other mediocre SS available at the same time? You can choose yours I can choose mine. I don’t need mine, yours, and 15 different everyone else’s. There’s no reason to make some cards like those available 9 months later in the 9th inning 100 star choice pack and Alex Gordon the first month. Some people’s teams didn’t even get a SS for half the year how is that fun. Just let people choose what’s the harm?
Why release Gossage and the final Moments extreme segment with a month left? If anyone could have beat those missions in the first month with regular diamonds or golds they should be rewarded. People would rather sit around and wait for another treat from SDS is the issue. Jump, roll over, play dead, then these 120 games and collect your SS Vlad.
That's not the point. You are not getting our concept.
If we can PICK any player, why would anyone pick the Alex Gordon type cards? If you can pick Babe Ruth or an example Edwin, why would anyone pick Edwin?'
If every card available first day, people are obviously only going to pick the Babe Ruth's of the world.
Lol yeah just add Babe Ruth into the mediocre SS pool I was talking about. I’m crazy, I thought he go in the higher tier choice with the other 99s but you probably forgot about them because your taking Babe over Chipper Griffey Williams Thomas Gagne Gwynn Henderson Trout Kershaw Rivera Alomar Schmidt and everyone else. It’s strange, it’s almost like the decision becomes harder the MORE cards you add to the choice not the opposite.
And stop calling a thread you didn’t start and an idea you don’t agree with “Our concept”
Why wouldn't we add him to the pool? Your idea is ALL cards being obtainable right away correct? The only difference is we have a choice and can only select a few a a time. So those few that get picked will be the obvious Babe Ruth's of the world.
And once again, you failed to address "How do you propose SDS drive stub sales throughout the year when there is no excitement of new cards?" I know why you are ignoring it's there, you have no answer, so just continue to pretend it's not there.
And when I say "our concept" I mean Trucker and mines concept of why it doesn't work, not the concept of the OP. But you knew that, just wanted to sound smart. It's ok, if it makes you feel good, you do you,
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@ChArTeRBuS said in Am I Crazy?:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Am I Crazy?:
@eatyum said in Am I Crazy?:
@ChArTeRBuS said in Am I Crazy?:
I kinda agree, most people play this for 6-7 months and have never seen or used Babe Ruth since SDS paid for his rights, it’ll be the same thing next year. Some people wanna feel super special and grind every card to tell you how easy and free it is...3500 hours later. I’d rather SDS unlock all the players early but force people to choose between them without the ability to unlock them all until a much much later date. That way we’d actually get line up diversity with great cards day 1.
So how do you propose to make the SS Alex Gordon's type cards useable? How do any of those cards become usable when you can get 99's? How do you propose SDS drive stub sales throughout the year when there is no excitement of new cards? How do you keep people engaged?
It also sounds like, based on his wording, that they wouldn’t be on the market until late in the year? Because if they were still on the market, it wouldn’t matter if we could only choose one, people would just buy whoever else they wanted off the market. But making WS rewards unsellable would make lots of people very upset.
This just doesn’t make much sense.
Thicker glasses Boomzy, my wording never mentioned a market.
But you said we would be forced to only choose one, and not be able to unlock them all until a later date. My point is that they would need to be unsellable based on your idea, because it wouldn’t matter that we can choose only one if they’re still on the market.
And also, people would just choose the best one to add to their team, or the highest priced one to sell. It would mean lower rated cards would basically be pointless, because nobody would need to ever use them.
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Idc either way......as long as I can get Chipper, Smoltz, Glavine and Maddux without shelling out hundred of bucks
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You're forgetting that SDS kind of already tried your concept last year with the Immortals, which were available at the end of June.
People HATED it, because after they earned them, they felt there was nothing left to play for.
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I agree with CharterBus
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@SaveFarris said in Am I Crazy?:
You're forgetting that SDS kind of already tried your concept last year with the Immortals, which were available at the end of June.
People HATED it, because after they earned them, they felt there was nothing left to play for.
100% agree. Also, there will be plenty of people that see all these rewards, and what they have to do, and get overwhelmed and not even try, like in 18. It's a lose/lose for SDS. There is an argument to add a few more cards early on, but even with that, we got 30 starter diamonds and all the collections and TAs that were available. Props to SDS, I bet 20 is even better for content.
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@eatyum said in Am I Crazy?:
@ChArTeRBuS said in Am I Crazy?:
@eatyum said in Am I Crazy?:
@ChArTeRBuS said in Am I Crazy?:
@eatyum said in Am I Crazy?:
@ChArTeRBuS said in Am I Crazy?:
I kinda agree, most people play this for 6-7 months and have never seen or used Babe Ruth since SDS paid for his rights, it’ll be the same thing next year. Some people wanna feel super special and grind every card to tell you how easy and free it is...3500 hours later. I’d rather SDS unlock all the players early but force people to choose between them without the ability to unlock them all until a much much later date. That way we’d actually get line up diversity with great cards day 1.
So how do you propose to make the SS Alex Gordon's type cards useable? How do any of those cards become usable when you can get 99's? How do you propose SDS drive stub sales throughout the year when there is no excitement of new cards? How do you keep people engaged?
Because you guys are still struggling to grasp the very simple concept (Which SDS already does to a minor degree) that you don’t GET a team full of 99s the first week, there just AVAILABLE the same way Kershaw Ryan and others were this past year. Just add more choices, and room for choices to be made.
Alex Gordon was useable for people that wanted to use him. He was quite easily replaceable at anytime. I would have liked to use SS Bautista or Edwin anytime before 9 months of the game had passed, why not make Edwin, Gordon, Goldschmidt and the other mediocre SS available at the same time? You can choose yours I can choose mine. I don’t need mine, yours, and 15 different everyone else’s. There’s no reason to make some cards like those available 9 months later in the 9th inning 100 star choice pack and Alex Gordon the first month. Some people’s teams didn’t even get a SS for half the year how is that fun. Just let people choose what’s the harm?
Why release Gossage and the final Moments extreme segment with a month left? If anyone could have beat those missions in the first month with regular diamonds or golds they should be rewarded. People would rather sit around and wait for another treat from SDS is the issue. Jump, roll over, play dead, then these 120 games and collect your SS Vlad.
That's not the point. You are not getting our concept.
If we can PICK any player, why would anyone pick the Alex Gordon type cards? If you can pick Babe Ruth or an example Edwin, why would anyone pick Edwin?'
If every card available first day, people are obviously only going to pick the Babe Ruth's of the world.
Lol yeah just add Babe Ruth into the mediocre SS pool I was talking about. I’m crazy, I thought he go in the higher tier choice with the other 99s but you probably forgot about them because your taking Babe over Chipper Griffey Williams Thomas Gagne Gwynn Henderson Trout Kershaw Rivera Alomar Schmidt and everyone else. It’s strange, it’s almost like the decision becomes harder the MORE cards you add to the choice not the opposite.
And stop calling a thread you didn’t start and an idea you don’t agree with “Our concept”
Why wouldn't we add him to the pool? Your idea is ALL cards being obtainable right away correct? The only difference is we have a choice and can only select a few a a time. So those few that get picked will be the obvious Babe Ruth's of the world.
And once again, you failed to address "How do you propose SDS drive stub sales throughout the year when there is no excitement of new cards?" I know why you are ignoring it's there, you have no answer, so just continue to pretend it's not there.
And when I say "our concept" I mean Trucker and mines concept of why it doesn't work, not the concept of the OP. But you knew that, just wanted to sound smart. It's ok, if it makes you feel good, you do you,
Lol why’re you so obsessed with me making SDS more stubs? I ignored it because I don’t need to come up with a strategy for SDS to make more money off stubs and bring it to you for approval. If I really needed SDS to make more money on stubs I’d suggest adding contracts, historic jerseys, position change consumables, training consumables and everything else EA does. Maybe we just need to pay 1000 stubs for each conquest game. Should we add more tax on the market? 20% 30% That would really help them fill there pockets no? Are these all great ideas? No, not everything needs to be based off making SDS more money to buy player rights so they can constantly release them in February again and again.
And nobody said everyone’s available and we get to ChoOsE A FEW eAcH TiMe lmao. You really want me to have said I want Mays Griffey and Ruth day one but I didn’t. At any point. You just keep making stuff up for some weird reason only you and Trucker have the brain power to comprehend.
