NEW LEGENDS in 2020
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@phillydave35 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@BIGHOOV2713 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@ImDFC said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@BIGHOOV2713 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@xFearTheForkASUx said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@xFearTheForkASUx said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
Stephen and Luis did mention during yesterday's second live stream that there would be "dozens" of new legends this year, with an emphasis on players from the 1990s and 2000s, so that's really encouraging. I don't know if that means 24...36...48 new legends, but we should expect a healthy influx of new players this year.
Hopefully that doesn’t mean at the expense of losing other legends though.
Inevitably, SDS does lose the rights to some guys. It happens every year. I can remember players like Gaylord Perry, Jack McDowell and Yogi Berra being in multiple versions of The Show, but they weren't in this year's edition. Even last year, guys like Darin Erstad, Doc Ellis and Albert Belle were in the game, but they aren't this year. I think SDS will probably lose a few ancillary legends from this year's cycle, but they tend to replace them with big names. This year, we had Willie Mays, Ivan Rodriguez, Rogers Hornsby, Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx, and a ton of other big-name stars enter the cycle. By teasing Rivera, Ortiz, Maddux, Smoltz and Glavine for 20, SDS could be setting up the community to not realize that some lesser-known guys might not be coming back.
If we lose Ashburn and Slaughter...I'm fine with that.
Too bad we lose GrandyMan...
"If we lose Ashburn (...) I'm fine with that"
I'm not. He's one of 2(two) legends available on the Phillies before this year. Slaughter sure, who is one of 178 Cardinals legends in MLB 19 can afford it. But unless they add a bunch of players, teams like the Brewers and Phillies shouldn't lose a single legendI sympathize with your situation, but in dealing with a franchise that has been widely regarded as less than average (as a whole), I’d rather see the likes of Ryan Howard, Jimmy Rollins, Scott Rolen, Darren Dalton, Robin Roberts, Ted Simmons, Roy Halladay Chase Utley, Bobby Abreu, [censored] Allen etc.
2 legends before this year though? Are you talking ‘19 or ‘20?
And TBH, for a franchise that has just over a 47% winning percentage in their history...
I’ll see myself out.
an overall underwhelming winning percentage, yes, but the LONGEST standing franchise with the same city/name
No offense, but that and $5 might get you a coffee at Starbucks.
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@BIGHOOV2713 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@xFearTheForkASUx said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@xFearTheForkASUx said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
Stephen and Luis did mention during yesterday's second live stream that there would be "dozens" of new legends this year, with an emphasis on players from the 1990s and 2000s, so that's really encouraging. I don't know if that means 24...36...48 new legends, but we should expect a healthy influx of new players this year.
Hopefully that doesn’t mean at the expense of losing other legends though.
Inevitably, SDS does lose the rights to some guys. It happens every year. I can remember players like Gaylord Perry, Jack McDowell and Yogi Berra being in multiple versions of The Show, but they weren't in this year's edition. Even last year, guys like Darin Erstad, Doc Ellis and Albert Belle were in the game, but they aren't this year. I think SDS will probably lose a few ancillary legends from this year's cycle, but they tend to replace them with big names. This year, we had Willie Mays, Ivan Rodriguez, Rogers Hornsby, Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx, and a ton of other big-name stars enter the cycle. By teasing Rivera, Ortiz, Maddux, Smoltz and Glavine for 20, SDS could be setting up the community to not realize that some lesser-known guys might not be coming back.
If we lose Ashburn and Slaughter...I'm fine with that.
Too bad we lose GrandyMan...
The Phillies only get 3 SS cards all year, and now you want to take one away. How dare you, sir.
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@BIGHOOV2713 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@phillydave35 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@BIGHOOV2713 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@ImDFC said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@BIGHOOV2713 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@xFearTheForkASUx said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@xFearTheForkASUx said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
Stephen and Luis did mention during yesterday's second live stream that there would be "dozens" of new legends this year, with an emphasis on players from the 1990s and 2000s, so that's really encouraging. I don't know if that means 24...36...48 new legends, but we should expect a healthy influx of new players this year.
Hopefully that doesn’t mean at the expense of losing other legends though.
Inevitably, SDS does lose the rights to some guys. It happens every year. I can remember players like Gaylord Perry, Jack McDowell and Yogi Berra being in multiple versions of The Show, but they weren't in this year's edition. Even last year, guys like Darin Erstad, Doc Ellis and Albert Belle were in the game, but they aren't this year. I think SDS will probably lose a few ancillary legends from this year's cycle, but they tend to replace them with big names. This year, we had Willie Mays, Ivan Rodriguez, Rogers Hornsby, Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx, and a ton of other big-name stars enter the cycle. By teasing Rivera, Ortiz, Maddux, Smoltz and Glavine for 20, SDS could be setting up the community to not realize that some lesser-known guys might not be coming back.
If we lose Ashburn and Slaughter...I'm fine with that.
Too bad we lose GrandyMan...
"If we lose Ashburn (...) I'm fine with that"
I'm not. He's one of 2(two) legends available on the Phillies before this year. Slaughter sure, who is one of 178 Cardinals legends in MLB 19 can afford it. But unless they add a bunch of players, teams like the Brewers and Phillies shouldn't lose a single legendI sympathize with your situation, but in dealing with a franchise that has been widely regarded as less than average (as a whole), I’d rather see the likes of Ryan Howard, Jimmy Rollins, Scott Rolen, Darren Dalton, Robin Roberts, Ted Simmons, Roy Halladay Chase Utley, Bobby Abreu, [censored] Allen etc.
2 legends before this year though? Are you talking ‘19 or ‘20?
And TBH, for a franchise that has just over a 47% winning percentage in their history...
I’ll see myself out.
an overall underwhelming winning percentage, yes, but the LONGEST standing franchise with the same city/name
No offense, but that and $5 might get you a coffee at Starbucks.
No offense, but like what I'm about to say, was an unnecessary comment. My point was with that much history, there obviously have been some really good players on bad teams along the way. For example you get White Sox fans asking for [censored] Allen, but his best years were with Phils. Del Ennis, Greg Luzinski, Chuck Klein, Robin Roberts, Carlton, Grover Alexander, Jim Bunning, Ed Delahanty, John Kruk, Bake McBride, Garry Maddox and a lot of guys from 90s/00s
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@SirKess said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@BIGHOOV2713 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@xFearTheForkASUx said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@xFearTheForkASUx said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
Stephen and Luis did mention during yesterday's second live stream that there would be "dozens" of new legends this year, with an emphasis on players from the 1990s and 2000s, so that's really encouraging. I don't know if that means 24...36...48 new legends, but we should expect a healthy influx of new players this year.
Hopefully that doesn’t mean at the expense of losing other legends though.
Inevitably, SDS does lose the rights to some guys. It happens every year. I can remember players like Gaylord Perry, Jack McDowell and Yogi Berra being in multiple versions of The Show, but they weren't in this year's edition. Even last year, guys like Darin Erstad, Doc Ellis and Albert Belle were in the game, but they aren't this year. I think SDS will probably lose a few ancillary legends from this year's cycle, but they tend to replace them with big names. This year, we had Willie Mays, Ivan Rodriguez, Rogers Hornsby, Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx, and a ton of other big-name stars enter the cycle. By teasing Rivera, Ortiz, Maddux, Smoltz and Glavine for 20, SDS could be setting up the community to not realize that some lesser-known guys might not be coming back.
If we lose Ashburn and Slaughter...I'm fine with that.
Too bad we lose GrandyMan...
The Phillies only get 3 SS cards all year, and now you want to take one away. How dare you, sir.
I don’t really look at it is taking one away. Just replace him with a more usable Phillie great, such as those you mentioned (Allen, Simmons, Abreu, etc). Don’t really see the use of having a contact hitter with minimal speed and mediocre defense.
I hope there are more Phillie greats, I just wouldn’t lose any sleep if we “lost” the 97 version of Ashburn (keep the 85 actually, but give us a High diamond Werth it Pence or Howard).
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@MrGamebred said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
With that multi-console contract money they had to have signed so many new guys. Huge cash cow if they did too. They've already released 8 and it's barely February. I'm getting more pumped everyday for 20.
Very cool the game will be available on Xbox and the Switch... VERY COOL !!!
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Not a legend to most but he is to me, can’t they put Mark Grace in team affinity or something of that nature?
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@jmcdonald1817 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
Not a legend to most but he is to me, can’t they put Mark Grace in team affinity or something of that nature?
He’s more of a legend than a lot of guys we have already.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@jmcdonald1817 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
Not a legend to most but he is to me, can’t they put Mark Grace in team affinity or something of that nature?
He’s more of a legend than a lot of guys we have already.
I am a Reds fan, and so by that I have no love for the Cubs. But you are absolutely correct. He is often overlooked, because he played in the steroid era at a power position, but had very little power. But was a great hitter. Lifetime .303/.383/.442 that is a .825 OPS very good hitter. Not HOF, but still good. I saw people saying Sean Casey, very similar player. Lifetime. 302/.366/.447. Basically Casey had more power but Grace got on base more.
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What do you guys think John olerud's card will look like?? (assuming it's a SS)
R 115/80 L 105/74
vis/disc - close to Max
Diamond defense
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@MrGamebred said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
What do you guys think John olerud's card will look like?? (assuming it's a SS)
R 115/80 L 105/74
vis/disc - close to Max
Diamond defense
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@LankyRyan said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
That's a good call. I'm thinking power vs lefties might be identical. Power vs righties maybe 80-85 range.
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@LankyRyan said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@MrGamebred said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
What do you guys think John olerud's card will look like?? (assuming it's a SS)
R 115/80 L 105/74
vis/disc - close to Max
Diamond defense
Or is that too generous, not generous enough?I think it will be a bit more than "slightly" more power, but that probably gets into semantics in how we value slightly.
Olerud's highest slugging % was .599 (1993) and .551 (1998)
Keith's highest was .513 (1979).
That's a big enough divide that since Keith has 70/69. we could see up to 90ish for Olerud.Keith's highest ISO was .173, Oleruds was .236
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@eatyum said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@LankyRyan said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@MrGamebred said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
What do you guys think John olerud's card will look like?? (assuming it's a SS)
R 115/80 L 105/74
vis/disc - close to Max
Diamond defense
Or is that too generous, not generous enough?I think it will be a bit more than "slightly" more power, but that probably gets into semantics in how we value slightly.
Olerud's highest slugging % was .599 (1993) and .551 (1998)
Keith's highest was .513 (1979).
That's a big enough divide that since Keith has 70/69. we could see up to 90ish for Olerud.Keith's highest ISO was .173, Oleruds was .236
I'd consider that SLG % difference slight in a macro sense, but it very well could put Olerud in the 80/90 range, depending on the methodology they use. Either way, I'm stoked. He was a lot of fun to watch growing up and sounds like he'll be a more than serviceable card early in the game's cycle.
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I was thinking something close to jackie Robinson's hitting stats........ with diamond D.
if hes released early on he will be a great card to use. definetly will run him and alomar together -
@Ryan_2713 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
I was thinking something close to jackie Robinson's hitting stats........ with diamond D.
if hes released early on he will be a great card to use. definetly will run him and alomar togetherDiamond D for who? Olerud. His best dWAR was 0.6. Lifetime -1.4. I know he got 3 GGs, but I dont see him having Diamond D, maybe Gold.
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guys i am over the moon here can't believe the new names dropping this year - this is one of those "shut up and take my money" years
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@TheHungryHole said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
guys i am over the moon here can't believe the new names dropping this year - this is one of those "shut up and take my money" years
If you’re over the moon now, where will you be when Randy Johnson gets revealed?
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@TheHungryHole said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
guys i am over the moon here can't believe the new names dropping this year - this is one of those "shut up and take my money" years
If you’re over the moon now, where will you be when Randy Johnson gets revealed?
that is like change my undies kind of news def shart material
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
@TheHungryHole said in NEW LEGENDS in 2020:
guys i am over the moon here can't believe the new names dropping this year - this is one of those "shut up and take my money" years
If you’re over the moon now, where will you be when Randy Johnson gets revealed?
They better increase the dove factor to 21 Jump Street levels if they add the Big Unit.
