Disservice to Larry Walker
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Jeff Kent better than Larry Walker?
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modules:composer.user_said_in, @lucas8181, Disservice to Larry Walker
@theman925 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
Lmao if youāre arguing that Walker is better than Bonds you lose any credibility you ever had. Bonds is the best player to ever play the sport.
Imagine people saying that about Altuve, but you won't, because Altuve had a trash can. But you support a guy that used illegal drugs for half his career. Find your priorities, think about what your saying, edit the comment, and we will visit this again in the future.
This aināt it chief. We gonna act like 80% of the league wasnāt using during those years? I guarantee thereās a number of players from that timeline that are in the HOF that used as much as Barry. Bonds is only under a microscope because he was easily the most prolific player of those years, and one of the most prolific of all time. Letās not forget aside from home runs, he had over 500 SB, 3000+ Walks, 7 MVPs, 8 GG. His impact on games went well beyond hitting dingers. He deserves to be in the HOF. And technically never was proved to use, I mean we all know he did but technically speaking lol.
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@lucas8181 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@doomtrain69 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
Bonds better than Walker?!?! Heās lost it.
Bonds literally has more than DOUBLE the career WAR than Walker. And Walker played at Coors. That's just asinine
Yeah, Walker didn't need drugs to have high tier performance. Walker's head isn't the size of a small car, because again, he didn't use drugs.
You can worship drug addicts, they need fans too, but for the rest of us, we will support those who do things the right way (Sorry Astro fans)
Bonds had 3 MVPs before leaving the pirates. He's the greatest offensive player to ever play game. Every era had their top players do something to boost their already amazing skills. Everyone was doing what Bonds was at the time. Why aren't there more Bonds type numbers out there?
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@lucas8181 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@theman925 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
Lmao if youāre arguing that Walker is better than Bonds you lose any credibility you ever had. Bonds is the best player to ever play the sport.
Imagine people saying that about Altuve, but you won't, because Altuve had a trash can. But you support a guy that used illegal drugs for half his career. Find your priorities, think about what your saying, edit the comment, and we will visit this again in the future.
Lmao taking the moral high ground wonāt benefit you in this argument. What do my priorities have to do with me stating a FACT. Barry is the best player to play the game, look at his numbers before the alleged use, he was well on his way to the Hall. Barry, Sosa and McGwire saved baseball at a time that no one was watching the product. Theyāre just scapegoated because theyāre no longer players but youāre an idiot if you think donāt 90% of the league was using at that time. I could literally go on for days on steroid use in the MLB and the hypocrisy but Iāll spare you. Maybe you need to educate yourself on the actual game before hitting send on stupid comments.
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@doomtrain69 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
Bonds better than Walker?!?! Heās lost it.
Bonds literally has more than DOUBLE the career WAR than Walker. And Walker played at Coors. That's just asinine
What would Bonds have for WAR if he played at Coors? 200+?
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@Frodo-T-Bagginz said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@lucas8181 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@doomtrain69 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
Bonds better than Walker?!?! Heās lost it.
Bonds literally has more than DOUBLE the career WAR than Walker. And Walker played at Coors. That's just asinine
Yeah, Walker didn't need drugs to have high tier performance. Walker's head isn't the size of a small car, because again, he didn't use drugs.
You can worship drug addicts, they need fans too, but for the rest of us, we will support those who do things the right way (Sorry Astro fans)
Bonds had 3 MVPs before leaving the pirates. He's the greatest offensive player to ever play game. Every era had their top players do something to boost their already amazing skills. Everyone was doing what Bonds was at the time. Why aren't there more Bonds type numbers out there?
No sir, that would be Ruth. Higher WAR, slugging, OPS, OPS+, AVE, OBP... nearly every important offensive category.
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@kdogg53075 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@doomtrain69 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
Bonds better than Walker?!?! Heās lost it.
Bonds literally has more than DOUBLE the career WAR than Walker. And Walker played at Coors. That's just asinine
What would Bonds have for WAR if he played at Coors? 200+?
The same... It takes into account the ball park.
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@kdogg53075 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@doomtrain69 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
Bonds better than Walker?!?! Heās lost it.
Bonds literally has more than DOUBLE the career WAR than Walker. And Walker played at Coors. That's just asinine
What would Bonds have for WAR if he played at Coors? 200+?
The same... It takes into account the ball park.
Ok maybe I don't fully understand WAR, but wouldn't he have more home runs and doubles, in Coors? So wouldn't that increase his WAR?
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@T-Rox_09 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
Bonds is hands-down a better player than Larry Walker. They do not have the rights to him though. I am not sure what the Op is talking about with the jumbotron at candlestick. I must have missed whatever that was.
I agree. The only thing Walker did better than Bonds was throw.
Bonds had an average arm at best, while Walker had a cannon.
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@kdogg53075 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@kdogg53075 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@doomtrain69 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
Bonds better than Walker?!?! Heās lost it.
Bonds literally has more than DOUBLE the career WAR than Walker. And Walker played at Coors. That's just asinine
What would Bonds have for WAR if he played at Coors? 200+?
The same... It takes into account the ball park.
Ok maybe I don't fully understand WAR, but wouldn't he have more home runs and doubles, in Coors? So wouldn't that increase his WAR?
No, because it accounts for inflation based on ballpark. Similar to what wRC+ does.
Welcome to 21st century baseball analytics! I mean that in a nice way
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Comparing walker to bonds is stupid...
It's comparing a great player, and HOFer to literally a top 3 greatest ever player if not greatest ever...It's like comparing Vince Carter to Michael Jordan...
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@kdogg53075 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@kdogg53075 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@doomtrain69 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
Bonds better than Walker?!?! Heās lost it.
Bonds literally has more than DOUBLE the career WAR than Walker. And Walker played at Coors. That's just asinine
What would Bonds have for WAR if he played at Coors? 200+?
The same... It takes into account the ball park.
Ok maybe I don't fully understand WAR, but wouldn't he have more home runs and doubles, in Coors? So wouldn't that increase his WAR?
No, because it accounts for inflation based on ballpark. Similar to what wRC+ does.
Welcome to 21st century baseball analytics! I mean that in a nice way
I understand some of it and other things I don't. I guess I'm still a little more traditional or old school.
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@theman925 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
Lmao if youāre arguing that Walker is better than Bonds you lose any credibility you ever had. Bonds is the best player to ever play the sport.
To say that Bonds is the best player to ever play the game of baseball is just as ignorant as trying to say that Larry Walker is better then Bonds. Bonds wasnāt as good as his own Godfather for starters. Barry Bonds was a great player and yes he was better then Walker. You talk about credibility then drop a statement like that??? Lmao cmon youāre better then that.
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For me it was the opposite. I saw Oracle park and went "Aw man it's not a Rockie" then saw purple, held my breath, and lost my goddamn mind when they showed Walker.
Best troll ever by SDS.
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@GQSMOOTH75 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@theman925 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
Lmao if youāre arguing that Walker is better than Bonds you lose any credibility you ever had. Bonds is the best player to ever play the sport.
To say that Bonds is the best player to ever play the game of baseball is just as ignorant as trying to say that Larry Walker is better then Bonds. Bonds wasnāt as good as his own Godfather for starters. Barry Bonds was a great player and yes he was better then Walker. You talk about credibility then drop a statement like that??? Lmao cmon youāre better then that.
Show me statistics that back up your point. And not being better than Willy Mays still puts you top 3 greatest ever, even though he beats Mays in pretty much every category.
The only strike against bonds is of course steroids.. if you ignore than, nobody is close to him other than the babe himself -
@Nanthrax_1 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@GQSMOOTH75 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
@theman925 said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
Lmao if youāre arguing that Walker is better than Bonds you lose any credibility you ever had. Bonds is the best player to ever play the sport.
To say that Bonds is the best player to ever play the game of baseball is just as ignorant as trying to say that Larry Walker is better then Bonds. Bonds wasnāt as good as his own Godfather for starters. Barry Bonds was a great player and yes he was better then Walker. You talk about credibility then drop a statement like that??? Lmao cmon youāre better then that.
Show me statistics that back up your point. And not being better than Willy Mays still puts you top 3 greatest ever, even though he beats Mays in pretty much every category.
The only strike against bonds is of course steroids.. if you ignore than, nobody is close to him other than the babe himself -
Barry Bonds has the highest WAR of all time.
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@Ikasnu said in Disservice to Larry Walker:
Barry Bonds has the highest WAR of all time.
Yup. Him and Babe....... Then everyone else
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Show me statistics that back up your point. And not being better than Willy Mays still puts you top 3 greatest ever, even though he beats Mays in pretty much every category.
The only strike against bonds is of course steroids.. if you ignore than, nobody is close to him other than the babe himselfYou are joking right? The āonlyā strike against bonds is of course steroids. If you āignoreā that lmao..... you are asking me to show you stats to prove that Bonds wasnāt the best player in history and ignore the second half of his career where his own stats were ridiculously inflated because of steroids??? That is a joke. When every other non using player hits their peak and starts to become āmortalā again, he became an absolute god. But based on all of those inflated stats he was the best ever? You canāt compare him to guys like Mays, Ruth, Mantle, Aaron and others because we will never know what they may have done on steroids.
And before you start.... Iām not against the steroid users. Bonds did it because he was seeing what clearly inferior guys like McGwire and Sosa were doing while using. Itās sad but that was the culture of the times. Iām not upset at Bonds for using, but to say that heās the best ever when we will never see what the other all time greats could have done with the very same advantages is absolutely ridiculous. I canāt even imagine what type of stats they would have put up if they were users. Even without the use of steroids some players were better. Lmfao... -
Nobody was better than Bonds when he ate every PED he could at the buffet.
