Looking back at 18
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18 only had a couple real issues, the hitting and the ability to immediately return to first safely on every steal attempt. This year’s game is bad in every way. Pitching is very suspect. Fielding, we’ve all seen the videos. Hitting, so random that it doesn’t make sense. They need to strip strip this game to the core and build it back up with the good things from every year since probably 16.
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18 suuuuuuuuckes. Worst video game I've ever played. Content sucked, gameplay sucked. 20 is still 100x better than 18
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@James97M said in Looking back at 18:
18 suuuuuuuuckes. Worst video game I've ever played. Content sucked, gameplay sucked. 20 is still 100x better than 18
What part of the gameplay in 18 makes you think that way? Obviously the hitting but what else?
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You are forgetting pitch speeds, they were insufferably slow.
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I played 18 and reached level 100 diamond, played way to much. I haven't played this s*** show in almost a month now. Everything about is broke - online, franchise basically everything. WTF they been doing? How do you break every mode in a game? Lol it's just sad this is what the game has turned out to be now. I have always loved playing baseball games but I can't support this game anymore the way it is - it's basically just a money grab now
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Dude 18 is the worst. Only 2 lineups, All Immortals or 1 or 2 Finest mixed in to your immortal lineup. Pitch speeds are slow pitch. Sometimes even if you did square it up, it would be a pop fly. The content was absolute buns. It was either home run or pop out on that game. I’d rather play this than that abomination.
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The exchanges... Hats and bobbleheads...
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@eatyum said in Looking back at 18:
You are forgetting pitch speeds, they were insufferably slow.
I can see that. They did increase the speeds at least once maybe twice throughout the year due to the complaints. Pitching in 20 is scary because good input doesn’t seem to mean much so in comparison it’s not better than 18. One has this issue one has another issue. They took one step forward with increasing speeds but then a step back with how hitting your spots is like shooting fish in a barrel.
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Looking back at 18:
The exchanges... Hats and bobbleheads...
I hate Coors Field to this day because of that game.I’m mainly talking about the gameplay.
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@snout_japper said in Looking back at 18:
@eatyum said in Looking back at 18:
You are forgetting pitch speeds, they were insufferably slow.
I can see that. They did increase the speeds at least once maybe twice throughout the year due to the complaints. Pitching in 20 is scary because good input doesn’t seem to mean much so in comparison it’s not better than 18. One has this issue one has another issue. They took one step forward with increasing speeds but then a step back with how hitting your spots is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Pitching in 20 is imperfect (and that's a nice way of saying it). But I'll take some good release hangers over it not mattering where I throw because it's slow enough that people will crush every ball no matter the placement. So to me personally, it would be one step forward, a half a step back.
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@Nanos_McGregor said in Looking back at 18:
Dude 18 is the worst. Only 2 lineups, All Immortals or 1 or 2 Finest mixed in to your immortal lineup. Pitch speeds are slow pitch. Sometimes even if you did square it up, it would be a pop fly. The content was absolute buns. It was either home run or pop out on that game. I’d rather play this than that abomination.
I agree the hitting was bad and said that in my original comment. Content isn’t the reason for this post, referring to gameplay only. The hitting is nothing to brag about in this game either and now we have pitching and fielding to add to the bad list. So in comparison 20 has just as much if not more problems.
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@eatyum said in Looking back at 18:
@snout_japper said in Looking back at 18:
@eatyum said in Looking back at 18:
You are forgetting pitch speeds, they were insufferably slow.
I can see that. They did increase the speeds at least once maybe twice throughout the year due to the complaints. Pitching in 20 is scary because good input doesn’t seem to mean much so in comparison it’s not better than 18. One has this issue one has another issue. They took one step forward with increasing speeds but then a step back with how hitting your spots is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Pitching in 20 is imperfect (and that's a nice way of saying it). But I'll take some good release hangers over it not mattering where I throw because it's slow enough that people will crush every ball no matter the placement. So to me personally, it would be one step forward, a half a step back.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not sticking up for 18 but 2 years later we should be like 2 steps forward at least and no steps back. Just want a year of solid gameplay with minor issues, not new big issues.
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@snout_japper said in Looking back at 18:
@eatyum said in Looking back at 18:
@snout_japper said in Looking back at 18:
@eatyum said in Looking back at 18:
You are forgetting pitch speeds, they were insufferably slow.
I can see that. They did increase the speeds at least once maybe twice throughout the year due to the complaints. Pitching in 20 is scary because good input doesn’t seem to mean much so in comparison it’s not better than 18. One has this issue one has another issue. They took one step forward with increasing speeds but then a step back with how hitting your spots is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Pitching in 20 is imperfect (and that's a nice way of saying it). But I'll take some good release hangers over it not mattering where I throw because it's slow enough that people will crush every ball no matter the placement. So to me personally, it would be one step forward, a half a step back.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not sticking up for 18 but 2 years later we should be like 2 steps forward at least and no steps back. Just want a year of solid gameplay with minor issues, not new big issues.
To each his own. To me, I'm happy with the progression from 18 to 20, to me 20 is a superior game and I can walk away most (keyword most) of the time feeling like the better team won.
I think a lot of MLB's problems are things that cannot be easily fixed. As I said, "most" of the time, I feel the better team won. But when you get those ugly games, you are experiencing it for 30-50 minutes of your time, it leaves you utterly frustrated. (A big reason I don't really play to much ranked, I much prefer events). That's a huge difference from a game like Madden where if it's ugly, it's whatever it's maybe 10 minutes of your time.
And I don't know how to fix that because at it's core, MLB doesn't have a clock, it's a 9 inning game, you can't shorten it in a ranked season types mode. So I'm either stuck playing an annoying game for 50 minutes, or I have to quit.
Even with all that, it's a much better experience for me overall. I enjoy playing 20. That doesn't mean I don't dislike the issues, but it does a lot of things right to.
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@snout_japper said in Looking back at 18:
@Nanos_McGregor said in Looking back at 18:
Dude 18 is the worst. Only 2 lineups, All Immortals or 1 or 2 Finest mixed in to your immortal lineup. Pitch speeds are slow pitch. Sometimes even if you did square it up, it would be a pop fly. The content was absolute buns. It was either home run or pop out on that game. I’d rather play this than that abomination.
I agree the hitting was bad and said that in my original comment. Content isn’t the reason for this post, referring to gameplay only. The hitting is nothing to brag about in this game either and now we have pitching and fielding to add to the bad list. So in comparison 20 has just as much if not more problems.
Pitching sucked cause there was no effective pitch to fool your opponent with. You’re right fielding was good, but hitting and pitching both were terrible. Overall by gameplay and content 20 by far is better and it’s not even close. As a matter of fact there was no top spin in 18. That doesn’t mean 20 is perfect, but I’d rather play 20 cause at least it wasn’t these 4 outcomes. 1. Home Run. 2. Fly out. 3. Weak line drive out. 4. If you somehow strike out.
I’d say from overall enjoyment of past shows.
- 16(I didn’t play till the game was dead)
- 17
- 20
4 19 (I place it this low cause early in the year you could square up Nolan or Kershaw and still lose 1-0 and dominating your opponent all game. Although late in the year 19 was pretty solid)
5 18
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Every game was 2-1 based on solo shots. Most people had 2 knucklers on their staff. The pitch speeds made guys who could mix the curve and screwball gods. It wasn’t that good.
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Good/square up pop ups
slow pitch speeds
only one type of usable player
99.9% of pitches splitter or curveball
everybody with the same roster
the mindless immortal grind
exchanges
Every fastball thrown getting crushed
good/squared up infield pop ups18 was absolute garbage
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@snout_japper said in Looking back at 18:
18 only had a couple real issues, the hitting and the ability to immediately return to first safely on every steal attempt. This year’s game is bad in every way. Pitching is very suspect. Fielding, we’ve all seen the videos. Hitting, so random that it doesn’t make sense. They need to strip strip this game to the core and build it back up with the good things from every year since probably 16.
You clearly never played 18...and ever since the patch I have had no fielding issues.
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@Nanos_McGregor said in Looking back at 18:
Dude 18 is the worst. Only 2 lineups, All Immortals or 1 or 2 Finest mixed in to your immortal lineup. Pitch speeds are slow pitch. Sometimes even if you did square it up, it would be a pop fly. The content was absolute buns. It was either home run or pop out on that game. I’d rather play this than that abomination.
Not to mention having to trade in 10000 hats and hit 1000 doubles to unlock cards
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This game is way better then 18
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