This close to breaking PS4
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I had a blast those first few days playing Conquest on All Star but I get your take on the placebo effect. I think SDS pulled the plug too early though on hitting and should have gathered more data. I personally don’t think hitting is so broken as much as the timing window is.
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I'm fed up with the illogical hitting....for example a pitch on the outside of a lefty that gets hits barely....instead of dribbling to short or third like it should....lines between first and second.....I'm a lefty and I played ball and IRL never happened as much as it does in the game. The pathetic bunting game or lack of it, I mean it has to be a slow dribbler on the line, and the constant outs on slow hits between pitcher and 1st that results in outs 99% of the time. Just very poor hitting comparison to real life
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@Red_Ted_is_back said in This close to breaking PS4:
@Scarletgospel said in This close to breaking PS4:
Stop changing things would be my first tip. Pick one camera and stick with it. Second tip is to find what works for you at the plate when batting. These guys that post these tips are generally top players that get to most balls, regardless of where they start their pci. Thirdly, I would suggest a patient approach, don't swing for the fences on every ball, look for the pitches that catch too much of the plate.
Lastly, and this something I noticed in my own play the other day, keep your hands relaxed. I found that I was gripping too tightly and when I went to hit the button, I was jerking the controller, therefore, I was ending up with bad pci placement. Without thinking I was pushing forward when I did, making my pci drop.
I'm not a great player, so you can take all of that with a grain of salt, if you wish.
First paragraph should be on a post-it next to every PS4
Worst thing I did was try to change to strike zone view from fish eye and to directional from zone hitting just because of anecdotals.
Think I lasted about 100 pitches on each before I decided they weren’t worth the trouble. The problem is my impulsiveness not the interface.
Also, does anybody else find hitting in 20 a crisper and more satisfying experience than in 19? Presently I’ve only played custom league games. No ranked seasons, batoru rowaiaru or events for me, thanks.
No disrespect but worst thing you can do is give hitting tips for online players when you don't play online. I hear custom leagues hitting is alot better than ranked. Its a whole different experience.
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@Scarletgospel said in This close to breaking PS4:
Stop changing things would be my first tip. Pick one camera and stick with it. Second tip is to find what works for you at the plate when batting. These guys that post these tips are generally top players that get to most balls, regardless of where they start their pci. Thirdly, I would suggest a patient approach, don't swing for the fences on every ball, look for the pitches that catch too much of the plate.
Lastly, and this something I noticed in my own play the other day, keep your hands relaxed. I found that I was gripping too tightly and when I went to hit the button, I was jerking the controller, therefore, I was ending up with bad pci placement. Without thinking I was pushing forward when I did, making my pci drop.
I'm not a great player, so you can take all of that with a grain of salt, if you wish.
My thumb sticks are sensitive and the PCI does not stay still most of the time, if i can not get it to stay still I leave it where it is at and move with the pitch, it has help me a little. I am not a good hitter.
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Showdown is all about being patient. Secondly I went away from strike zone to strike zone high. I’ve lost plenty of showdowns, but enjoy them. As for events ranked and br, it’s hit or miss. Some games I’ll be in, then some I’ll be horrible.
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@j9milz said in This close to breaking PS4:
@Red_Ted_is_back said in This close to breaking PS4:
@Scarletgospel said in This close to breaking PS4:
Stop changing things would be my first tip. Pick one camera and stick with it. Second tip is to find what works for you at the plate when batting. These guys that post these tips are generally top players that get to most balls, regardless of where they start their pci. Thirdly, I would suggest a patient approach, don't swing for the fences on every ball, look for the pitches that catch too much of the plate.
Lastly, and this something I noticed in my own play the other day, keep your hands relaxed. I found that I was gripping too tightly and when I went to hit the button, I was jerking the controller, therefore, I was ending up with bad pci placement. Without thinking I was pushing forward when I did, making my pci drop.
I'm not a great player, so you can take all of that with a grain of salt, if you wish.
First paragraph should be on a post-it next to every PS4
Worst thing I did was try to change to strike zone view from fish eye and to directional from zone hitting just because of anecdotals.
Think I lasted about 100 pitches on each before I decided they weren’t worth the trouble. The problem is my impulsiveness not the interface.
Also, does anybody else find hitting in 20 a crisper and more satisfying experience than in 19? Presently I’ve only played custom league games. No ranked seasons, batoru rowaiaru or events for me, thanks.
No disrespect but worst thing you can do is give hitting tips for online players when you don't play online. I hear custom leagues hitting is alot better than ranked. Its a whole different experience.
No tips from me, the closest I got to a tip was the visible use of a post-it
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@Red_Ted_is_back said in This close to breaking PS4:
@j9milz said in This close to breaking PS4:
@Red_Ted_is_back said in This close to breaking PS4:
@Scarletgospel said in This close to breaking PS4:
Stop changing things would be my first tip. Pick one camera and stick with it. Second tip is to find what works for you at the plate when batting. These guys that post these tips are generally top players that get to most balls, regardless of where they start their pci. Thirdly, I would suggest a patient approach, don't swing for the fences on every ball, look for the pitches that catch too much of the plate.
Lastly, and this something I noticed in my own play the other day, keep your hands relaxed. I found that I was gripping too tightly and when I went to hit the button, I was jerking the controller, therefore, I was ending up with bad pci placement. Without thinking I was pushing forward when I did, making my pci drop.
I'm not a great player, so you can take all of that with a grain of salt, if you wish.
First paragraph should be on a post-it next to every PS4
Worst thing I did was try to change to strike zone view from fish eye and to directional from zone hitting just because of anecdotals.
Think I lasted about 100 pitches on each before I decided they weren’t worth the trouble. The problem is my impulsiveness not the interface.
Also, does anybody else find hitting in 20 a crisper and more satisfying experience than in 19? Presently I’ve only played custom league games. No ranked seasons, batoru rowaiaru or events for me, thanks.
No disrespect but worst thing you can do is give hitting tips for online players when you don't play online. I hear custom leagues hitting is alot better than ranked. Its a whole different experience.
No tips from me, the closest I got to a tip was the visible use of a post-it
My bad wrong guy
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I would do the Challenge of The Week and figure out which hitting view you’re most successful with. I did that 2 years ago and it helped me a lot online.
I guess it also depends on how the games are treating you. There are times I’m super early on 99-101 mph fastballs, and there are other games (in the same division ironically) where I’m “very late.”
If I’m super early on everything, I keep my PCI in the middle. If I notice I’m late a lot, I’ll start my PCI in the high inside corner. It’s like my equivalent to the “Chipper Jones foot tap timing mechanism” lol.The biggest thing is this, and I lose sight of it sometimes, too... find ways to enjoy it. RS is pretty toxic to the game right now, because in my experience I haven’t seen any consistency and it’s frustrating.
I’ve found enjoyment in the showdowns, moments, even MTO isn’t that bad (none of which really make you better in RS/events except for attaining better players).So when I see former Cy Young pitchers like Scherzer, deGrom, Kluber, Snell consistently hanging letter high off-speed in online games, of course I get angry. But I try not to let it manifest into anything destructive because... it’s just a game. Find ways to enjoy it.
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I don’t know what pisses me off more, good/popped with Ball inside PCI or change ups 6 inches off target with perfect release.
But the again, Call of Duty is breaking records, while SDS is just happy to be here kind of mentality.
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@Matt_42187 said in This close to breaking PS4:
I don’t know what pisses me off more, good/popped with Ball inside PCI or change ups 6 inches off target with perfect release.
But the again, Call of Duty is breaking records, while SDS is just happy to be here kind of mentality.
You can’t compare sports games to any type of popular shooter. Not even the same ballpark buddy.
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@Scarletgospel said in This close to breaking PS4:
Lastly, and this something I noticed in my own play the other day, keep your hands relaxed. I found that I was gripping too tightly and when I went to hit the button, I was jerking the controller, therefore, I was ending up with bad pci placement. Without thinking I was pushing forward when I did, making my pci drop.
What this guy said is legit..I too noticed that when I swung I got excited and would be jerking up an miss alot if meatballs...I also relaxed an tried moving the pci slightly in one direction or another an not drastically slam it to any side...I am not great either but my contact has gone up alot over the years after making this change
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If you're on a TV make sure it's set to game mode. Could be picture lag.
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@Laaaaylay said in This close to breaking PS4:
@Matt_42187 said in This close to breaking PS4:
I don’t know what pisses me off more, good/popped with Ball inside PCI or change ups 6 inches off target with perfect release.
But the again, Call of Duty is breaking records, while SDS is just happy to be here kind of mentality.
You can’t compare sports games to any type of popular shooter. Not even the same ballpark buddy.
I’m talking about gaming. COD doesn’t have the BS like the Show has. It’s all about programming.
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@TEXAS10PT said in This close to breaking PS4:
@ComebackLogic said in This close to breaking PS4:
100% on not caring any more. You cannot play this game to compete. You simply cannot. What I’ve found to be the best solution is to not care as well, not about anything.
I had most of the cards for collections, Trout, Arenado and so on. Then it hit me. Why would I think for one second that improving my team to all 99s would help in the slightest little bit? That’s crazy. It’s not the cards, the game is fundamentally broken and pretty laughable. Mickey Mantle will not change that in any way, shape or form. Following on from that thought process, I realised it applied to everything in the game.Now, I laugh. I laugh a lot and post trolly jokey comments on TSN instead of angry frustrated comments. I don’t care about my team composition, I don’t care about my garbage batting average, I don’t care about my ERA, I don’t congratulate myself for wins, nor berate myself for losses. I often have tears of laughter rolling down my cheeks as I splutter into my coffee over a farcical animation or ridiculous hit feedback result. It’s really all you can do at this point, it is. I was streaming for a buddy last night and we were just literally like WTF is this game even? No point getting angry, or asking for patches, it is what it is.
On the subject of asking for patches, I’m done with that too. I used to check here every day to see if there was a patch coming out that would resolve all the issues. After two or three updates, I realised they were doing practically nothing to improve the state of the game, so even if there was a patch released, it wasn’t worth worrying about anyway. So I gave up caring about patches too!
Well said. By chance did you have the game 3 days early from pre-ordering? That was the most fun I have had with a release of MLBTS since 16. Just wondering your thoughts if you did.
I did. The hitting has been buns ever since
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@TEXAS10PT said in This close to breaking PS4:
I had a blast those first few days playing Conquest on All Star but I get your take on the placebo effect. I think SDS pulled the plug too early though on hitting and should have gathered more data. I personally don’t think hitting is so broken as much as the timing window is.
Yes, but when you’re playing on veteran, the timing window could still be broken. It’s just easier to overcome it with a bigger swing timing window, not to mention larger PCI, at that level. It really becomes apparent as you move up. That said, per the patch notes for 1.04 there is an ominously ambiguous entry that simply said “increase to hitting difficulty in diamond dynasty.” That’s all we have in the way of solid information to go on, how they achieved this has been left open to debate, although swing timing window adjustments almost certainly were a factor.
As usual, we’re not privy to any actual breakdown of the information and it’s pretty clear to anyone who’s been around this franchise for more than a year or so that SDS are happy to take advantage of the fact we are left in the dark about the intended workings of in game features and mechanics. Indeed, the instructions for things such as hitting in game are devoid of any in depth information about the nuances of play and again, this is an intentional ploy on behalf of the developers. If you never explicitly state that performing a certain action in game will result in a specified outcome, how can anyone call you out on the game not working as intended? Nobody has any idea what the true intent behind anything is, it’s all left down to the user to interpret and assume.
As a new player just starting out in Diamond Dynasty this year, where would you go to find this information, or indeed explanations of how H/9 for a pitcher plays against contact for a hitter, or to find out if HR/9 is a simulation only stat this year or not, or anything at all other than “push X for a normal swing, Square for a power swing and O for a contact swing”? As I said this is a very deliberate and disingenuous strategy deployed by a company that doesn’t feel they have any accountability to their loyal and paying customers who support the product year after year.A year or two ago, I was constantly labelled a SDS fanboy and a scrub on this forum, because I enjoyed the game, although I struggled to succeed and supported the team who made it possible to play PS4 baseball every year. I enjoyed watching the guys on stream and felt they did a good job engaging with the players. My opinion has changed somewhat since then, because I’ve seen the community ask for the exact same things year after year in terms of gameplay and here we still are. Content has been great except for ‘18 though and it’s really improved in leaps and bounds. Gameplay, not so much.
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@Matt_42187 said in This close to breaking PS4:
I don’t know what pisses me off more, good/popped with Ball inside PCI or change ups 6 inches off target with perfect release.
But the again, Call of Duty is breaking records, while SDS is just happy to be here kind of mentality.
Brah call of duty is trash, I don’t know how it’s actually doing the sales it is. it is by far the worst boots on the ground game they have made. Maps suck. Too much camping and poor spawns.
It’s like this game though, a few tweaks and it would be great. Fix hitting, fix fielding ( again) and better pitch reward and this game is great. -
@Matt_42187 said in This close to breaking PS4:
@Laaaaylay said in This close to breaking PS4:
@Matt_42187 said in This close to breaking PS4:
I don’t know what pisses me off more, good/popped with Ball inside PCI or change ups 6 inches off target with perfect release.
But the again, Call of Duty is breaking records, while SDS is just happy to be here kind of mentality.
You can’t compare sports games to any type of popular shooter. Not even the same ballpark buddy.
I’m talking about gaming. COD doesn’t have the BS like the Show has. It’s all about programming.
You must not play cod....poor hit detection, shoot first die first, booty spawns ... that’s all programming
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@Crimson_Monk said in This close to breaking PS4:
@Matt_42187 said in This close to breaking PS4:
@Laaaaylay said in This close to breaking PS4:
@Matt_42187 said in This close to breaking PS4:
I don’t know what pisses me off more, good/popped with Ball inside PCI or change ups 6 inches off target with perfect release.
But the again, Call of Duty is breaking records, while SDS is just happy to be here kind of mentality.
You can’t compare sports games to any type of popular shooter. Not even the same ballpark buddy.
I’m talking about gaming. COD doesn’t have the BS like the Show has. It’s all about programming.
You must not play cod....poor hit detection, shoot first die first, booty spawns ... that’s all programming
Actually I’ve been playing more COD than the show. I play war zone. Yes, Multiplayer had [censored] spawns. Shoot first die first is because you can’t aim well or had bad guns. Never had problems. At least when I aim at someone, it’s not a foot away from them. Head shot goes down on 2 hits. Good/squared up has negative EV than pitch speed. When it comes down to actual gameplay, programming is night and day.
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@j9milz said in This close to breaking PS4:
@Red_Ted_is_back said in This close to breaking PS4:
@Scarletgospel said in This close to breaking PS4:
Stop changing things would be my first tip. Pick one camera and stick with it. Second tip is to find what works for you at the plate when batting. These guys that post these tips are generally top players that get to most balls, regardless of where they start their pci. Thirdly, I would suggest a patient approach, don't swing for the fences on every ball, look for the pitches that catch too much of the plate.
Lastly, and this something I noticed in my own play the other day, keep your hands relaxed. I found that I was gripping too tightly and when I went to hit the button, I was jerking the controller, therefore, I was ending up with bad pci placement. Without thinking I was pushing forward when I did, making my pci drop.
I'm not a great player, so you can take all of that with a grain of salt, if you wish.
First paragraph should be on a post-it next to every PS4
Worst thing I did was try to change to strike zone view from fish eye and to directional from zone hitting just because of anecdotals.
Think I lasted about 100 pitches on each before I decided they weren’t worth the trouble. The problem is my impulsiveness not the interface.
Also, does anybody else find hitting in 20 a crisper and more satisfying experience than in 19? Presently I’ve only played custom league games. No ranked seasons, batoru rowaiaru or events for me, thanks.
No disrespect but worst thing you can do is give hitting tips for online players when you don't play online. I hear custom leagues hitting is alot better than ranked. Its a whole different experience.
If you are referring to me, then, I do play online and having a winning record. This is not my main account. I don't post with it. So yes, it is disrespectful, especially since I tried to offer some reasonably solid advice.
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@Scarletgospel said in This close to breaking PS4:
@j9milz said in This close to breaking PS4:
@Red_Ted_is_back said in This close to breaking PS4:
@Scarletgospel said in This close to breaking PS4:
Stop changing things would be my first tip. Pick one camera and stick with it. Second tip is to find what works for you at the plate when batting. These guys that post these tips are generally top players that get to most balls, regardless of where they start their pci. Thirdly, I would suggest a patient approach, don't swing for the fences on every ball, look for the pitches that catch too much of the plate.
Lastly, and this something I noticed in my own play the other day, keep your hands relaxed. I found that I was gripping too tightly and when I went to hit the button, I was jerking the controller, therefore, I was ending up with bad pci placement. Without thinking I was pushing forward when I did, making my pci drop.
I'm not a great player, so you can take all of that with a grain of salt, if you wish.
First paragraph should be on a post-it next to every PS4
Worst thing I did was try to change to strike zone view from fish eye and to directional from zone hitting just because of anecdotals.
Think I lasted about 100 pitches on each before I decided they weren’t worth the trouble. The problem is my impulsiveness not the interface.
Also, does anybody else find hitting in 20 a crisper and more satisfying experience than in 19? Presently I’ve only played custom league games. No ranked seasons, batoru rowaiaru or events for me, thanks.
No disrespect but worst thing you can do is give hitting tips for online players when you don't play online. I hear custom leagues hitting is alot better than ranked. Its a whole different experience.
If you are referring to me, then, I do play online and having a winning record. This is not my main account. I don't post with it. So yes, it is disrespectful, especially since I tried to offer some reasonably solid advice.
Eh don't even remember who it was honestly, maybe it was you and you edited your post but there was literally a post where they guy said only plays custom league, which is a whole lot different from DD hitting.
