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Ty Cobb needs put in the game!

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  • The412Smoke_XBLT Offline
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    I would absolutely welcome Cobb back to my lineup! The GOAT leadoff hitter in DD history! One of the most complete cards ever.

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  • doobiebross66-72_PSND Away
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    @SavageSteve74_PSN “mixed past” the claims of racism has been proven to be false. The man’s character was wrongly drug through the mud.

    I highly doubt that’s the reason he’s not in the game. My assumption is financial reasons

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    Ad nauseam

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    Ty Cobb would be amazing in the game

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    Ty Cobb’s reputation is grossly exaggerated and/or false. Read into this. Historians have started doing this in recent years and the evidence for his reported behavior does not stand scrutiny.

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    Ty Cobb was in everyone’s line up in 20, he was Pete Crow Armstrong, but could also hit bombs.

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    @SavageSteve74_PSN said:

    He was in a few years ago, nobody really used him. I’m guessing they dropped him for 1 of 2 reasons, either he got too costly or they’re virtue signaling with his mixed past.

    In fairness, Cobb's "mixed past" was about 100% the false creation of Al Stump, who wrote a falsified hit piece after Cobb died. The worst thing that can be said about Cobb is that he would fight someone at the drop of a hat. During his era, that was about how all men were.

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    And Cobb's image of a dirty player is also exaggerated, and we have guys like Utley in game anyway

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    @NWOStunna_PSN My thoughts exactly. If you don't mind playing offline, you can go to the Vault and download the roster named 'All Time Greats 3.0' to choose when starting Franchise. That one has a great Cobb, with the split handed setup and all, and pretty much anyone else you could want. Thank you to @Bigshow0822 for setting it up.

    I would love to see him back in DD though, and Darryl Strawberry, Will Clark, and Doc Gooden.

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    @jcassaro44_PSN Cobb had an incredible 99 card one year

    125 contact and vision. 90ish power? Max speed and elite in the field

    I loved using him

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    @jcassaro44_psn So was Eddie Collins. He literally said a slur while warming up for a game. It's why they won't add Collins to the game.

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    @doobiebross66-72_PSN said:

    @jcassaro44_PSN Cobb had an incredible 99 card one year

    125 contact and vision. 90ish power? Max speed and elite in the field

    I loved using him

    Ty Cobb had excellent power, which he used to hit line drives. To understand Cobb's approach, one has to understand how ballparks were constructed during his era, as well as the lack of reactivity in the baseball itself. You see, most all stadiums of the Cobb era featured huge outfield dimensions. It was common for the foul pole distances to be well over 370 feet, the power alleys at 400, and centerfield at 420 or longer. When you combine this with the relative dead quality of the baseball, it meant that efforts to hit a homer would most likely end up as a long fly ball caught for an out.

    On the other hand, a line drive that split the fielders often resulted in a triple, and many times as an inside-the-park homer. For the record, Ty Cobb set a career mark of 46 inside-the-park homers, an American League record that stands to this day, as well as an AL single season record of nine! In contrast, he hit a grand total of 117 homers total, which when he retired in 1928 placed Cobb among the top career homer hitters in the game. In fact, Cobb led the AL in homers in 1909. The reason why Cobb famously was derisive about Babe Ruth was rooted in Ruth's strike out or homer philosophy. It was anathema in Cobb's era for any hitter to strike out as often as Ruth did.

    There is a rare video of Cobb hitting for practice, and he deliberately hit the first pitch for a long distance homer over the wall. It was his way of proving late in his career that if he wanted to, he could have hit homers as often as Ruth did, but he considered it a better offensive approach to hit like he did.

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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL I had this same discussion when Shoeless Joe was reinstated and someone made a derisive comment about his power. The game was different. Striking out 150 times a season would get you fired. Today it’s Ho-hum.

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    I'm sure Ty Cobb's views aren't any worse than Blake Treinen's. Probably just some grandkid who wanted double the money they were offering.

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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL Excellent post sir! Kudos to you. Very interesting indeed.

    @jasonaemales_psn wouldn’t it be just awesome awesome awesome to have us some Dr. K & Strawberry from those magical Mets seasons when they were in there youthful glory days!!! Sprinkle in a dash of 30-30 Hojo in that mix and I’d be in total Heaven!!!

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