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Why Are You Forcing Your Players to Pitch From the Stretch in 26?

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  • GoozeFn_PSNG Offline
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    @doobiebross66-72_PSN Bunt dancing needs to be addressed too. Just make it where you can only square to bunt once each pitch. Problem solved.

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    @GoozeFn_PSN unfortunate that I’m out of upvotes lol

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    @doobiebross66-72_PSN said in Why Are You Forcing Your Players to Pitch From the Stretch Next Year?:

    @GoozeFn_PSN oh absolutely. I’m all for a cooldown timer of sorts for quitting out of ranked games, or any H2H game, mid home run or before the 4th inning per se

    I quit in the first inning all the time. I'm not playing some idiot with a political logo or a crude looking adult one (I'm cool with cleverness and subtlety in those). or someone with a ballpark that is recreating 9/11 (granted havent seen one of those in a while) or some nonsense

    Also if I'm clearly outclassed and you are just passing through. happens all the time in the 500s

    I've never dashboarded though, those people need every step to be on a lego.

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  • GoozeFn_PSNG Offline
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    @Teak2112_MLBTS Quitting and DASHBOARDING are different things. Quitting should not be penalized.

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  • PriorFir4383355_XBLP Offline
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    More needless control exercised by SDS. The action taken here is so ludicrous that it cannot logically be defended. In real baseball, pitchers reduce strain on their arms by pitching with the windup as they can get more of their lower body into the throw with a fluid motion. Obviously, the stretch is used to reduce time to the plate.

    My guess is the game code won't factor any difference in pitch behavior nor pitcher fatigue, and if that is the case then it further shows how MLB The Show's code doesn't quite measure up with real baseball. Either way, the look isn't good.

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  • GoozeFn_PSNG Offline
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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL LOL there’s plenty of logical defense in this thread. I’m typically defending realism arguments, but sometimes QOL improvement outweighs meaningless realism.

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  • x-814-x-MAFIA-x_PSNX Offline
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    No more R2? Where was this confirmed?

    How are you supposed to check pitch location and your opponent's shift?

    I only use it once per AB.

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    @PriorFir4383355_XBL said in Why Are You Forcing Your Players to Pitch From the Stretch Next Year?:

    More needless control exercised by SDS. The action taken here is so ludicrous that it cannot logically be defended. In real baseball, pitchers reduce strain on their arms by pitching with the windup as they can get more of their lower body into the throw with a fluid motion. Obviously, the stretch is used to reduce time to the plate.

    My guess is the game code won't factor any difference in pitch behavior nor pitcher fatigue, and if that is the case then it further shows how MLB The Show's code doesn't quite measure up with real baseball. Either way, the look isn't good.

    Do you warm up pitches when you play vs CPU?

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  • GoozeFn_PSNG Offline
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    @x-814-x-MAFIA-x_PSN You can still use it to look at pitches, but it doesn’t prevent the other person from pitching.

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    If you’re worried about quick pitching now, a quick look in the pause menu will let you see pitch repertoire. I don’t play online much, but did plan on it more this year so I really don’t have a dog in the fight.

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  • GoozeFn_PSNG Offline
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    @The_Bane_Event_PSN You can still use R2 to see pitches. There’s also a pause between pitches to prevent quick pitching.

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  • rageincage007_XBLR Offline
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    Because baseball is all about speeding up. Getting the game over and going on to the next one. Ruining the beauty of the game with impatience.

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    This will maybe subtract 4 minutes from a game if the pitcher has a longer windup. Theres really no pitchers with a toxicly long windup. However, there are pitchers with somewhat toxic stretch moves, which I fear could become a problem

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  • GoozeFn_PSNG Offline
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    @TheRupster12_XBL Seth Lugo is obnoxiously long. Detmers, Paige, Spahn, CC…

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  • GoozeFn_PSNG Offline
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    @rageincage007_XBL Some people don’t have 2-3 hours to play a real life like 9 inning game. This is a video game. If you want the magic of a 3 hour game, buy a ticket to a game.

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    @GoozeFn_PSN
    Games are usually 30-40 minutes, not close to the length of a real game. Ive faced cc and paige multiple times, and their windups really arent that long. It adds like 3 minutes max and neither is meta anyway

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  • GoozeFn_PSNG Offline
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    @TheRupster12_XBL Think about it. Pitching from the stretch shaves at least 2 seconds off each pitch. If 200 pitches are thrown between both teams, that’s 6-7 minutes each game. Decreasing the length of games by 20% is significant.

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    @GoozeFn_PSN
    It only saves 2 seconds if the pitcher's windup is incredibly long, and thats assuming all the pitchers used in the game have a long windup. In reality, it saves about a second per pitch, and assuming about 1/3 of the pitches were with runners on anyway, that cuts time savings to about 2 minutes, give or take.

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  • GoozeFn_PSNG Offline
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    @TheRupster12_XBL I’ll do a little testing tonight. It obviously depends on the delivery but even your average windup is more than 1 second longer.

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  • GoozeFn_PSNG Offline
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    @therupster12_xbl So I used the stop watch on my phone to time each pitchers windup and stretch. I used the mean of 3 times from each. I chose a few of the guys I know have long deliveries and several of the guys people use often. The following times are the DIFFERENCE between each pitchers windup and stretch.

    Reid Detmers 5.48 seconds
    Seth Lugo 4.41
    CC Sabathia 3.44
    Warren Spahn 3.11
    Clayton Kershaw 2.38
    Roy Halladay 1.82
    Paul Skenes 1.78
    Randy Johnson 1.69
    Bob Gibson 1.66
    Rodger Clemens 1.64
    Al Leiter 1.55
    Pedro Martinez 1.36
    Tarik Skubal 1.3
    John Donaldson .92

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