Are Theme Teams with hitter only captains really at a disadvantage? Yes. Details included
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First of all I will admit that I have been wrong that SDS was doing their best to make sure that teams with Hitter only captains got enough of a boost to compensate for their lack of a pitcher captain. I was wrong. Fans of these teams have every right to complain.
As you can see in screenshot #1 there are 5 teams still with only a hitter captain. Three of those teams are the bottom three teams in terms of how many total attribute points their captains add to their team. The other two teams are also in the bottom half. Clearly these teams are at a disadvantage in terms of Theme Team boosts.
Screen shot #2 breaks it down a little more scientifically. Each team has a power score which is a calculated score based on the my program's determination of each teams optimal Lineup and Pitching staff. Then it it has the Total Captain Boost Points. It then creates Z scores based on how those numbers compare to the average, adds those Z scores together to get a final balance Score. The higher the score the more advantaged, Scores near zero are average. Negative numbers are disadvantaged.
The result of those calculations is that all 5 teams with a hitter only captains all show as being Highly Disadvantaged.
This does not mean, for example, that Miami has the best Theme team. It's just that their 128 attribute points of boosts are so far above average that it negates their weaker team score.
Miami's tier 3 boosts
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On one hand, its inexcusable for SDS to not have both captains at this stage
Also, captains have gone downhill each year (I know people like cornerstones last year which were good, but team captains were terrible and there were very few card set captains like in 23). SDS needs to either refocus this or drop them completely
That said, there is no mode where its theme team vs theme team. No one is 'disadvantaged' in that sense. The card balance is far more impactful (and a way worse state than captains).
Frankly, SDS does an absolutely terrible job with the theme team aspect. I very strongly disagree with the notion that a Giants Willie Mays should work for a Mets theme team, but they do not support theme teams with cards or content.
Basically, god squadders dont care so SDS largely doesn't care because I assume they don't feel thats where the money is.
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@Teak2112_MLBTS said in Are Theme Teams with hitter only captains really at a disadvantage? Yes. Details included:
That said, there is no mode where its theme team vs theme team. No one is 'disadvantaged' in that sense. The card balance is far more impactful (and a way worse state than captains).
That is true and maybe Advantaged or Disadvantaged is a poor term to use (The AI chose it). But it does get the point across.
But based on the number of posts I saw here, on Reddit and on Twitter there are quite a few fans of those teams with only a hitter captain complaining about how they are at a disadvantage. I thought that SDS was trying to be fair by boosting the hitter only captain cards more. But I was wrong.
I mean the marlins have the third lowest card total in the game. But even the worst player in their lineup (86 Agustin Ramirez) has the following stats after their insane boosts (96 points worth of Offensive Boosts)
Con R - 103 (+20)
Con L - 101 (+20)
POW R - 92 (+12)
Power L - 97 (+12)
Vis - 82 (+12)
CLT 101 (+20)Meanwhile the best an Oakland batter can get is +36 points worth of attribute boosts for a single hitter and that is only if they use one of their two lowest rated captains. If you use one of the two newest captains then that number falls to +30 points of offensive boosts (and only +15 for their pitchers).
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@Teak2112_MLBTS
I find it hard to believe that SDS will not give each team at least one of each captain at some point. All their content (Other than stuff that happens during the year) is planned out from the beginning of the year -
@Talkingben9558_XBL said in Are Theme Teams with hitter only captains really at a disadvantage? Yes. Details included:
@Teak2112_MLBTS
I find it hard to believe that SDS will not give each team at least one of each captain at some point. All their content (Other than stuff that happens during the year) is planned out from the beginning of the yearWhen? The Playoffs start on Oct 1st. That is one month away.
They mentioned Finest won't show up until November. A team like the Cardinals will not get a Pitcher Finest card because there is not a single one of them that deserve it.
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@Talkingben9558_XBL said in Are Theme Teams with hitter only captains really at a disadvantage? Yes. Details included:
@Teak2112_MLBTS
I find it hard to believe that SDS will not give each team at least one of each captain at some point. All their content (Other than stuff that happens during the year) is planned out from the beginning of the yearIt depends. In most years besides 2023, Finest were quite limited. I think last year had very few extra finest outside of the 1 per team. 2023 is once again the model that should be used with somewhere around 100 finest
I would assume based on how they have handled this year that we will not see more than 1 Finest for the majority of teams. I don't see the Rockies getting a pitcher for their Finest (although the second best player on their team in WAR is....Jimmy Herget of all people)
If they really planned this ahead Ubaldo would have been a captain somewhere, or Ottavino
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@Dolenz_PSN said in Are Theme Teams with hitter only captains really at a disadvantage? Yes. Details included:
@Talkingben9558_XBL said in Are Theme Teams with hitter only captains really at a disadvantage? Yes. Details included:
@Teak2112_MLBTS
I find it hard to believe that SDS will not give each team at least one of each captain at some point. All their content (Other than stuff that happens during the year) is planned out from the beginning of the yearWhen? The Playoffs start on Oct 1st. That is one month away.
They mentioned Finest won't show up until November. A team like the Cardinals will not get a Pitcher Finest card because there is not a single one of them that deserve it.
Maybe the Mets can pay the Cardinals to talk Helsley back
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@Teak2112_MLBTS said in Are Theme Teams with hitter only captains really at a disadvantage? Yes. Details included:
@Dolenz_PSN said in Are Theme Teams with hitter only captains really at a disadvantage? Yes. Details included:
@Talkingben9558_XBL said in Are Theme Teams with hitter only captains really at a disadvantage? Yes. Details included:
@Teak2112_MLBTS
I find it hard to believe that SDS will not give each team at least one of each captain at some point. All their content (Other than stuff that happens during the year) is planned out from the beginning of the yearWhen? The Playoffs start on Oct 1st. That is one month away.
They mentioned Finest won't show up until November. A team like the Cardinals will not get a Pitcher Finest card because there is not a single one of them that deserve it.
Maybe the Mets can pay the Cardinals to talk Helsley back
LOL, could not make the team any worse.
He is definitely not helping his Free Agency value much since the trade. -
I miss the monthly captains for Topps Now and such.
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Frankly, it’s despicable that some teams have all hitting captains. You’re telling me after 4 rounds of TA you couldn’t get this right? Ridiculous.
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@Dolenz_PSN said in Are Theme Teams with hitter only captains really at a disadvantage? Yes. Details included:
@Teak2112_MLBTS said in Are Theme Teams with hitter only captains really at a disadvantage? Yes. Details included:
That said, there is no mode where its theme team vs theme team. No one is 'disadvantaged' in that sense. The card balance is far more impactful (and a way worse state than captains).
That is true and maybe Advantaged or Disadvantaged is a poor term to use (The AI chose it). But it does get the point across.
But based on the number of posts I saw here, on Reddit and on Twitter there are quite a few fans of those teams with only a hitter captain complaining about how they are at a disadvantage. I thought that SDS was trying to be fair by boosting the hitter only captain cards more. But I was wrong.
I mean the marlins have the third lowest card total in the game. But even the worst player in their lineup (86 Agustin Ramirez) has the following stats after their insane boosts (96 points worth of Offensive Boosts)
Con R - 103 (+20)
Con L - 101 (+20)
POW R - 92 (+12)
Power L - 97 (+12)
Vis - 82 (+12)
CLT 101 (+20)Meanwhile the best an Oakland batter can get is +36 points worth of attribute boosts for a single hitter and that is only if they use one of their two lowest rated captains. If you use one of the two newest captains then that number falls to +30 points of offensive boosts (and only +15 for their pitchers).
How do they get all those boost point with only 2 Captains?
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Look up topic. I posted my programs screenshot with their captain boosts
Two of their their hitter captains gives +20 to Con L, Con R, and CLT
Their Pitcher captain gives +12 to Pow R, Pow L and Vision.The problem, if I were to guess is that they assigned these values of boosts based on how good or bad they viewed these teams at the start of the season and maybe their plans for the first inning or two. But they don't seem to have modified the path they set out back then based on the way the season has progressed.
But that is kind of the point of my post and the tables I showed. It seems kind of insane that some teams can bee boosted 128 attribute points while others top out at 40.
It would be more understandable if they were based on the teams overall roster power. But Milwaukee getting +80 points in boosts while the A's get only 40 seems like, and I have used this term a lot this year, poorly planned.
