This Series is an Inconsistent Mess
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SZ and pitchpoint to get an advantage
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Some of these excuses are getting crazy. The other day someone claimed people using Kontrol Freeks were cheating. But claiming someone using certain game settings, let alone the most popular settings, is now somehow gaining an advantage (which sounds like the OP is trying to say "cheating" without saying "cheating"). This has to be the most absurd thing I have heard! But, there are people who say using Directional gives "less skilled" people an advantage, so maybe the second most absurd thing.
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@dap1234567890_PSN everything and it’s opposite is now either cheating, tilted in favour of the weaker player, etc.
It’s the same argument with pro poker: if it’s all luck, then why do we constantly see the same faces in the big tournaments?
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@yankblan_PSN Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out how the worst players always win against these players, yet it is always the best players that are always on top! I guess the RNG or DDA only affects these "great" players in the middle range, but don't affect the best players or the worst players.
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The RNG is really wacky this season even for the offline modes. I can take a team in mini-seasons and get 4 HR / 10 hit games against a team of 90+ players, but I play against the White Sox in Conquest using the same exact team and I am lucky to get a win with 2 sac flies in the 4th. I don't know why they made the bat a wet noodle for Conquest games, this started last year I used to love Conquest.
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@yankblan @dap1234567890_PSN Then why do people use it? I'm guessing it's not to get a closer look at the batter's crotch. I'd say the same thing about NBA 2K and the court view / use of the shot meter. In a ranked, competitive matchup, everyone should be using the same settings (or at least an option to play against people using your settings) The reason Strikezone is popular is because YouTubers have shown people it will give them a competitive advantage. If that was the default view, I'd have 0 complaints... but people fudge with the settings to get that advantage. That's just one of the problems plaguing the series. I'll go with one more people can grasp. What's with the graphics and lack of tattoos to mirror the real life counterparts? It's 2025.
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@Squid_Adams_PSN People can use which ever setting they feel most comfortable with. But as far as everyone using the same settings, maybe you should join everyone else in using SZ and PP as most people are using those settings in a competitive environment! Why should everyone go down to whichever settings you play?
To force everyone to play on settings other than SZ and PP would cause even more complaints about the randomness of events in the game and that there is less skill involved in the H2H competitiveness!
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@yankblan_PSN, @dap1234567890_PSN It's a competitive environment. If I sign up for a 30-60 minute investment, I don't want any caveats. No one should lose a game because SDS decided it was time for Pete Crow-Armstrong to commit an error or their pitches missing the mark by 4 feet with a near perfect release. You can't tell who the better player is if we're playing the game differently. If I'm fielding using the meter and my opponent is not, that's on uneven footing. It's really an easy concept, but I know this opinion is very triggering for the Strikezone glazers.
I think the best compromise is to allow people to play against other people using their same settings. I can turn off cross-play, so I should be able to turn off playing against anyone getting a competitive advantage with Strikezone. But like I said, that's just a fraction of what's wrong with this game lol.
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@Squid_Adams_PSN So, how does SZ and/or PP settings affect PCA making an error in the field?
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@dap1234567890_PSN Unrelated. Regardless, Strikezone hits typically go over the wall, so no need to worry about errors. To be honest, I don't really have any opinions on Pinpoint, other than it supposedly being another way for people to get a competitive edge. Meter works just fine, so no need to make the switch (unless you know, deep down, that pinpoint gives you an advantage) I'm just making my point without singling out Strikezone glazers.
Also, feel free to type things out lol. Had a hard time figuring out what you were on about with all those abbreviations.
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@Squid_Adams_PSN SZ hits normally go over the wall? Hmmm, that seems to not go with what the majority of this forum says with the lack of EV happening in the game. Also, maybe you should warn people when you are going to switch topics to let people know that you understand you have no other arguments left with one topic and you want to argue a different topic!
You can feel free to figure out these commonly used abbreviations used in this game forum! Again, why must bow down to all of your demands?
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@dap1234567890_PSN What's EV? Just type the words out lol. I don't frequent the forums, so am unaware of all the lazy people lingo. And yeah, that's another flaw in this game. Excessive homeruns. 50% of hits are now bombs... I bought MLB the Show, not MLB Slugfest.
And I'm not focusing on one thing in particular. In the original post I mentioned there was "too much to mention" in terms of problems this game has. If you can't keep up, perhaps you're not smart enough to grasp what I'm saying.
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@dap1234567890_PSN said in This Series is an Inconsistent Mess:
Some of these excuses are getting crazy. The other day someone claimed people using Kontrol Freeks were cheating. But claiming someone using certain game settings, let alone the most popular settings, is now somehow gaining an advantage (which sounds like the OP is trying to say "cheating" without saying "cheating"). This has to be the most absurd thing I have heard! But, there are people who say using Directional gives "less skilled" people an advantage, so maybe the second most absurd thing.
That was a fun post.
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@Squid_Adams_PSN said in This Series is an Inconsistent Mess:
I'll just share this link rather than write a small essay. This game CAN be fun, but often reminds me that the series has become an inconsistent, random mess. Too much to mention. People using Strikezone and Pinpoint pitching to get a competitive advantage, some games I'm rewarded for my skill, some games I'm not. Some games I'm rewarded for not squaring up on a ball and swinging late. Some games my opponent hits no doubt home runs with a non-homerun hitter, when the bat sounds like a wet noodle and the ball was low and out of the zone, etc. Doesn't make much sense in getting better at something that is purely random, hiding behind the "it's how real baseball is" excuse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S9h1m9GPMc
Alright, I'm ready for the triggered "Show" apologists.
Too long didn’t read.
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Is there a rule against using the pinpoint pitching interface online? If not this complaint is weird.
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@Squid_Adams_PSN said in This Series is an Inconsistent Mess:
I'll just share this link rather than write a small essay. This game CAN be fun, but often reminds me that the series has become an inconsistent, random mess. Too much to mention. People using Strikezone and Pinpoint pitching to get a competitive advantage, some games I'm rewarded for my skill, some games I'm not. Some games I'm rewarded for not squaring up on a ball and swinging late. Some games my opponent hits no doubt home runs with a non-homerun hitter, when the bat sounds like a wet noodle and the ball was low and out of the zone, etc. Doesn't make much sense in getting better at something that is purely random, hiding behind the "it's how real baseball is" excuse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S9h1m9GPMc
Alright, I'm ready for the triggered "Show" apologists.
I was out of the video when he said that „all of his perfects were directly at the ss“ … this is clearly false and I am not listening to such arguments.
One point to the discussion: When do ppl realize, that hitting input is not the only factor in determining the outcome of contact? Maybe never … unfortunately
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It must just be a difficult idea to grasp. Not a lot of scholars on this forum. Fact of the matter is, people use Strikezone to hit better. You see everything much more closely. Like NBA 2K, I use broadcast, like the game shipped with. Then I play a guy who is using the behind the back angle, so he's seeing angles I can't see, getting steals and cutting off lanes etc. There is definitely a difference in how you perform, which is why people always change their settings around. Unfortunately, it's not fair to those who don't (In a ranked match) and they shouldn't be strong-armed into using Strikezone or Behind the Back view. To suggest this doesn't affect the game in the slightest is ridiculous. But like I said, I think a fair compromise is to get an option to play someone who isn't playing the game differently.
@YOSHI24_XBL People don't get it because the game doesn't play like that. It was supposed to, but SDS just isn't good like they once were. There's no consistency and a lot of what happens in the game is random. Every sports series falls off. Madden did, NBA Live and 2K did and you're lying if you say The Show hasn't.
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So how do we decide which settings everyone should play on? Is there a community vote? Or is it just the settings that you want to play on?
And that video didn't do much to back up your argument. The guy is playing on rookie difficulty complaining about "why is this swing a home run with Kyle Tucker and why is this swing with my 50 power RTTS player not a home run?"
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Guy defends a weak take by insulting people who don’t agree with it. Good luck with that.
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@allday9128_PSN He made no good points? You pointed out one thing you disagreed with and wrote the rest of the video off lol. Also, do you know what compromise means? It seems people have this weird notion that I'm forcing people to do anything. While I do not think it's fair and do not believe it should be allowed in ranked mode, I never said to remove it from the game. Honestly, if we put it to a vote, it seems like Strikezone would be the default hitting view. IF that were the case, I wouldn't have a problem. Regardless, I stand by what I said. I just wish people had more reading comprehension and would answer a few of the questions I posed. The replies I've gotten are all the same, just different wording.
Let me simplify what I'm asking, and I would love a well thought out, non-defensive answer. I match people's energy. If someone comes at it respectfully, that's the kind of reply they will get. This is a good lesson for life, in general.
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For those who disagree with my thoughts on batting view camera in ranked matches... do you believe there's no difference between using strike zone and the default camera? Is it just cosmetic? Does it not make it easier when all you can see is the strike zone? (and crotches) I'd like a respectful, rational answer to this question. Support why you feel the way you do.
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I mentioned a compromise. I switched off "cross-play" because that's an option available in the game. I suggested that option be made available for gameplay style as well. I'd rather not play anyone using Strikezone because I don't believe we're on equal footing and I don't want to be forced to switch, much like many of you. Would anyone care to address this? Too much focus on what you don't like about my statement, and people acting like I'm unreasonable.
@yankblan_PSN said in This Series is an Inconsistent Mess:
Guy defends a weak take by insulting people who don’t agree with it. Good luck with that.
See? ^^^ yankblan, you've got a soft definition of insults. But I'm sure you're a wonderful guy when you're not going for likes on a forum! I'd have a drink with you. Could you mention the complimentary side of me, if you decide to reply?
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