SDS just gave us all the middle finger!
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@Sarge1387_PSN I agree...but not sure about using for online. Too many weird situations could happen
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While we all are here fighting amongst each other..we're forgetting something that is under our nose. Have you all begin to wonder....if Maddy here is a covert op?
Kinda weird how "corporate" and pro sds maddy sounds...
Also its weird how no one here knows how to unlock these glitches and or exploits in said game, but maddy somehow stumbled onto this while no one before or since has discovered this ability.
Much like the batters eye glitch.
Just weird how maddy appeared out the blue in all of this.
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Also to note...Maddy doesnt even sound that upset that this was patched. In fact maddybutgames was gonna hold this secret to themselves and only keep it amongst their own as was said on reddit. They only come across condescending and passive aggressive in these responses and somehow knows how SDS thinks and their reasoning.
Really weird. Almost as if maddybutgames is a plant.
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@maddybutgames_PSN you speak with such authority and knowledge of what SDS would do and how it all works.
This is a burner account on both reddit and here.
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@Victor_SDS_PSN this mode hasn't worked properly since day one. All im asking for is an explanation as to why there has been a lack of communication from the start about this feature.
Its june..you still cant have a stadium with the correct name. You have 7 templates in the save slot that are not able to be deleted. Exactly what is being done about that? And moving forward is communication getting better? Because the current way of doing things does not work.
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@Sarge1387_PSN said in SDS just gave us all the middle finger!:
@PriorFir4383355_XBL said in SDS just gave us all the middle finger!:
renders a stadium with moved outfield wall panels ineligible for online play? Just extend that logic code to the baseline and backstop wall panels?
I don't agree with that, personally. I enjoy using my custom fields in games vs CPU, and I'd like to be able to continue that. They need to move away from heavy restrictions. Giving us an allowance for moving would be good. For example, you can't move the walls any closer to the foul line than a foot- think Wrigley Field's lines. They need to allow us moving of 10 or so feet in or out to add tweaks to the wall templates, and say, 3 feet up or down on the fences.
The other, and simpler option is they make edited stadiums eligible for online play, but with the caveat that walls can be no less that 310-318 in that range (in line with the shortest porches in MLB)
I fully understand and agree with your point of view. At the stage we are at, all of this is forlorn hope with a company so totally unpossessed of customer satisfaction values. My point with the comment is that SDS announced why they did what they did, but in how they chose to do it, then didn't achieve that goal.
SDS didn't prevent online cheating using deliberately sabotaged stadiums. If anything, their actions combined with putting custom stadiums back into online play only helped facilitate it.
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@PriorFir4383355_XBL we need to begin questioning Maddy and where this individual came from
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@ROTMG88_PSN I had planned to keep it to myself because I didn't want another community firestorm like with the batters eye glitch. I regret ever making a post about it on the subreddit, especially if I knew back then this would be the outcome. I am not some SDS plant, I am just someone who is trying to understand where SDS is coming from. If being sympatric is psyop behavior, oh well.
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@maddybutgames_PSN my dude get over yourself. That is all.
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@ROTMG88_PSN That could be said about everyone else here
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@PriorFir4383355_XBL I think you need a different game. Might i suggest minecraft?
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@maddybutgames_PSN sure thing my guy.
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WHAT'S GOING ON HERE!?
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@Zachtronics_XBL said in SDS just gave us all the middle finger!:
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE!?
I assume this is a question, vice an exclamation.
Reader's Digest version of events ...
When MLB The Show 25 was first released, SDS bugged up the operation of the stadium vault so badly that it became almost unusable. This was eventually fixed.
However, MLB 25 was released devoid of anything new to Stadium Creator. Zero new props. Zero improvements. This was shocking given that pre-release videos released by SDS said that Stadium Creator was used by a few noted stadium designers to create the high school and college baseball parks used in the official game. Since these stadiums included chain link fence for the high school parks, and yellow lines and distance marks on the walls, we assumed that these were to be new options in SC. However, none of this was provided.
We stadium designers knew something was up. How could SC be used to create these official stadiums but the version we had to use in the game featured nothing new? It seemed amiss.
Then, in middle of May, a person created a thread at Reddit that showed baseline wall panels being moved, something that most all of us designers had been unable to do over the four year history of SC. It was learned that somehow a few people found a way to move the baseline and backstop walls. One of these modified stadiums was identified in the vault, downloaded, and made public to the general stadium designer community.
Over the last two weeks of May and June to date, myself and other veteran stadium designers were in communication with SDS people, both public and private, where suggestions were made, and concerns provided, including that these backstop and baseline wall panels could be moved into the fair territory and the code that made stadiums ineligible for online play when an outfield wall panel was moved was not being applied to the move of baseline and backstop wall panels.
This at the time was not considered a problem because three weeks prior SDS had already decided to disable all custom stadiums from online play due to a bug in head-to-head online games where use of custom stadiums were causing CTD events.
However, without any forewarning, despite constant requests for updates by us designers, SDS placed code in Update #15 that disabled any additional moves of baseline and backstop walls, despite this being an earnest desire among designers for over four years. SDS was asked to instead invoke the same code applied to moves of the outfield wall panels, and make that code also apply to moves of the baseline and backstop wall panels. This would prevent nefarious people from creating stadiums to stymie honest online play.
SDS quietly rejected that concept and instead restricted customer moves of the baseline and backstop wall panels by writing additional code to further lock it out, even though the code to support such moves has clearly been present in Stadium Creator for years, and we discovered that the moved panels all interacted properly in the games played. So, the option to do this exists in our version of SC, but SDS had deliberately layered additional code to disable the option.
We strongly suspect almost to the point of firm conclusion that within our version of Stadium Creator lies all the code for a fully functional version of SC where everything we've been asking for can easily be done, but SDS deliberately wishes to deny us paying customers the ability to do.
This has raised customer anger within the Stadium Creator design community to the highest level it has ever been at, and there is a deep feeling of betrayal and malicious abuse toward SDS.
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Wow lol
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@PriorFir4383355_XBL said in SDS just gave us all the middle finger!:
we assumed that these were to be new options in SC. However, none of this was provided.
We strongly suspect almost to the point of firm conclusion that within our version of Stadium Creator lies all the code for a fully functional version of SC where everything we've been asking for can easily be done, but SDS deliberately wishes to deny us paying customers the ability to do.
You assumed. You Suspect.
I like where you insinuate that that SDS is deliberately doing this, out of what, spite? For the fun of upsetting a portion of their paying customers?
I don't agree with a large number of design and content decisions that the team makes but never once have I assumed they made those decisions out of malice for some sub section of their audience or that they dislike some sub section of players that I am a part of.
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@Zachtronics_XBL said in SDS just gave us all the middle finger!:
Wow lol
And you thought you had it bad!
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@PriorFir4383355_XBL Just wait for my dissertation! I'm with you guys on stadium creation 100%.
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@Dolenz_PSN after 4 years of this and multiple people i grew friendships and collaborations with left I can say their inaction is an action.
