My advice to stadium creator fans like myself
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Enjoy what we have which is great. Advocating for improvement is also great but SDS decides what their priorities are and we don't always get what we want.
I'm a manage mode player in franchise. For years there have been a few issues with that mode but I still play it and enjoy it.
Advocate for improvements but don't stop playing just because you didn't get everything. It's still better than anything I've seen in a sports game.
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Sorry, but that's a ration of utter nonsense. No company that goes out of its way and actually devotes time and resources to barring already discovered options for improved customer services deserves to have bestowed unto them such rhetorical rubbish as, "better than anything ... in a sports game."
My earnest advise to you is to make a more profound analysis of what customer satisfaction looks like and be more willing to stop spending your money on companies that desire to toy with you.
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That's a garbage take. The stadium vault did not work for at least the first 2 months after release without acknowledgement or communication from SDS. They hung their paying customers out to dry without a partial refund, credit or even an apology. They deserve whatever vitriol they get over this feature.
In addition I don't care for the direction they are going with the gameplay, and the game itself is very stale. The game engine is at least a decade outdated and riddled with glitches. I won't buy the game next year unless they do a serious overhaul. The only way to get change from a corporation is to hit them in the wallet. Profit is all that matters.
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@sullivanspring_MLBTS said in My advice to stadium creator fans like myself:
Enjoy what we have which is great. Advocating for improvement is also great but SDS decides what their priorities are and we don't always get what we want.
I'm a manage mode player in franchise. For years there have been a few issues with that mode but I still play it and enjoy it.
Advocate for improvements but don't stop playing just because you didn't get everything. It's still better than anything I've seen in a sports game.
I understand why you think you're trying to say, really I do. But that's a dogwater take. To fix a harmless "bug", that in all factual reality it improved the creator was one of, if not the most tonedeaf thing I've ever seen them do. It's the Gaming equivalent of yelling "VODKA" when singing The Champs in a karaoke competition...it was such a lay up to build off of...and they instead waste their time and resources in fixing what wasn't broken.
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@RonSolo412_XBL I’m with you. Last purchase for me unless I see a meaningful overhaul/update of the game. Not even talking stadium creator.
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Perhaps I feel this way because of my age. I played Micro League baseball. Tony Larussa Baseball. High Heat Baseball. Played the Show for many years without stadium builder and lobbied heavily for the feature.
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@sullivanspring_MLBTS yeah. No.
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It had to be fixed for online play. You could move the fences into fair territory and make an extremely toxic field. What would be great, is to see is something similar to how the outfield wall templates work for foul territory.
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@Suel21_MLBTS said in My advice to stadium creator fans like myself:
It had to be fixed for online play. You could move the fences into fair territory and make an extremely toxic field. What would be great, is to see is something similar to how the outfield wall templates work for foul territory.
See to me, that's the PERFECT middle ground. Just give us foul territory templates...to get around the licensing issues (If there were any) just use the templates from the their own minor league parks like Franco, Bayfront, RedRocks etc. I'd be 100% happy with that.
We haven't been unreasonable with what we're looking for, the creators are the only ones offering up compromises to those asks as well.
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@Sarge1387_PSN said in My advice to stadium creator fans like myself:
@Suel21_MLBTS said in My advice to stadium creator fans like myself:
It had to be fixed for online play. You could move the fences into fair territory and make an extremely toxic field. What would be great, is to see is something similar to how the outfield wall templates work for foul territory.
See to me, that's the PERFECT middle ground. Just give us foul territory templates...to get around the licensing issues (If there were any) just use the templates from the their own minor league parks like Franco, Bayfront, RedRocks etc. I'd be 100% happy with that.
We haven't been unreasonable with what we're looking for, the creators are the only ones offering up compromises to those asks as well.
Given the problems at launch with the vault I'm not sure they have a developer assigned full time to stadiums. I understand for those who love to build multiple stadiums why that's frustrating. There are issues in manage mode that have gone on for years. It's frustrating but I just accept it for what it is.
Bottom line it's a business and they spend developer time in the areas that most people use. DD, RTTS, micro transactions.
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@Suel21_MLBTS said in My advice to stadium creator fans like myself:
It had to be fixed for online play. You could move the fences into fair territory and make an extremely toxic field. What would be great, is to see is something similar to how the outfield wall templates work for foul territory.
Sue,
There is already in Stadium Creator existing code that invokes to prohibit a stadium's use in online games whenever a single outfield wall panel is moved. When you speak of SDS having been forced to do something, truthfully, they were not forced to do anything. They could have kept custom stadiums out of online play until they upgraded SC. They could have taken that existing wall code and applied it equally to all wall panels, and then facilitated move of any of the wall panels. If you move one panel, vice use an existing wall template (which would be extended to include the default baseline and backstop walls), then that stadium cannot be used in online play.
I realize you meant well in your post. But, we need to reconsider making posts supporting SDS. They don't deserve support. I worked with SDS privately to advise them of their options, and urged them to make the choice to allow people to fully edit all wall panels (outfield, baseline, and backstop). But, in return for that, to render the stadium ineligible for online play.
What SDS did was hamfisted as well as infuriating. If someone desires to be malicious, said person merely has to bypass installing Update #15 (or any future update), and use the wall glitch to put stadiums in the vault that make online play horrible, and sit back and watch the "fun" he created. This is why weeks ago, I alerted SDS privately to the concern -- just to ensure such nefarious people couldn't get what they wanted.
But, did SDS take our honest advice? Nope, they did it their way. They desire control more than making customers happy, and until that rancid mindset is changed at SDS, we customers are wasting our time trying to convince them to meet us halfway.
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I maybe wrong, but if you don't install the updates, then you can't access the online features.
This is what I remember, but could be wrong, unless things have changed.
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@sullivanspring_MLBTS said in My advice to stadium creator fans like myself:
@Sarge1387_PSN said in My advice to stadium creator fans like myself:
@Suel21_MLBTS said in My advice to stadium creator fans like myself:
It had to be fixed for online play. You could move the fences into fair territory and make an extremely toxic field. What would be great, is to see is something similar to how the outfield wall templates work for foul territory.
See to me, that's the PERFECT middle ground. Just give us foul territory templates...to get around the licensing issues (If there were any) just use the templates from the their own minor league parks like Franco, Bayfront, RedRocks etc. I'd be 100% happy with that.
We haven't been unreasonable with what we're looking for, the creators are the only ones offering up compromises to those asks as well.
Given the problems at launch with the vault I'm not sure they have a developer assigned full time to stadiums. I understand for those who love to build multiple stadiums why that's frustrating. There are issues in manage mode that have gone on for years. It's frustrating but I just accept it for what it is.
Bottom line it's a business and they spend developer time in the areas that most people use. DD, RTTS, micro transactions.
I'm convinced they don't have sufficient development assets devoted to Stadium Creator. However, if there are game modes that SDS truly don't wish to support, then they should be abolished in the game. No game mode will keep customers happy if it is allowed to grow stale or even worse as with SC this year, endure horrible bugs that prevent basic operation (the vault bug).
If SDS doesn't have the resources to properly manage Stadium Creator, Logo Creator, or Custom Uniforms, then SDS should abolish all of them immediately. Then, accept the loss of customers who enjoyed these game modes. If they are correct that these customer customization modes are truly trivial niche modes, then their basic business won't suffer. So, make that call. I think these modes enjoy more support than niche, but at the same time, years of SDS neglect has eroded the customer base that existed previously.
These latest hamfisted actions have eroded that customer base further still.
