Hitting Engine/ Glitches
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@YOSHI24_XBL said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
Interesting discussing in the last post: Is it really about rookie not being easy enough or (and I think it is just that) easy not being easy enough getting xp / something done quicker. If it is the last part, then something is totally wrong (in the thinking process). This is a baseball game and not an „we make it easy for you to get xp fast“-one
Appreciate your response to my post, and we will definitely disagree. Before last year's game, Rookie setting gave you far more strikes, including meatballs. They had to patch it last year after admitting that balls were out of control. It's never returned to pre-24 Rookie mode -- even though I haven't played much this year, it's been obvious.
I'll repeat again that it's not about "not liking baseball" -- DD is a sports RPG mode, sort of, and a lot of people playing on Rookie could win almost always on All-Star or HOF against the computer. I'm one of them. I simply do NOT want to work counts on Rookie. And lots of people share my POV. If I need 10 HR with left fielders and I load up a game at Coors on Rookie, I do NOT want to work counts, period. I do not want to get to 3-2, and I do not want to walk. This is not "not liking baseball," it's wanting the old Rookie setting back. That's all.
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Yes. The grind requires very specific stats with particular players and usually they are a big ask for very little program progress.
I just want to get it done and not have to hunt my pitch every at bat and hope I don’t miss it. I play the game for fun because I love baseball and work hard all day.
Let the sweats sweat it out on higher difficulties as it’s their prerogative. I just want to chill out and enjoy the little down time I get a few days a week.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
Yes. The grind requires very specific stats with particular players and usually they are a big ask for very little program progress.
I just want to get it done and not have to hunt my pitch every at bat and hope I don’t miss it. I play the game for fun because I love baseball and work hard all day.
Let the sweats sweat it out on higher difficulties as it’s their prerogative. I just want to chill out and enjoy the little down time I get a few days a week.
Exactly. You can love baseball and want an easy, unrealistic Rookie mode to grind in a relaxed way. There's very little cognitive dissonance in that combination. If that's not for you, fine; but don't paint people as not loving baseball because of it.
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@Loyal-Wiglaf_XBL No but it is that already. Do you win 30-0 every game no of course not. But that's because baseball has too much variance for that. But the grinds (again with the one exception of the newest Langford Spotlight) have extremely easy grinds. And the few more difficult stat missions you don't have to do because the moments take care of those.
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@trfatboy22_PSN said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
@Loyal-Wiglaf_XBL No but it is that already. Do you win 30-0 every game no of course not. But that's because baseball has too much variance for that. But the grinds (again with the one exception of the newest Langford Spotlight) have extremely easy grinds. And the few more difficult stat missions you don't have to do because the moments take care of those.
Missing the point. They changed Rookie pitching last year and it's never returned to pre-24. It's still -- and always will be -- incredibly easy to win on Rookie. They just made it more annoying. Don't waste my time with 3 balls a foot off the plate on Rookie. Again: I don't want to -- and we shouldn't have to -- work counts on Rookie. That's one huge reason why I barely play anymore (so I don't even know what programs you're referring to, sorry).
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@Loyal-Wiglaf_XBL So you want meatballs every pitch. That's insane. But regardless I play rookie a lot. They always throw strikes. You never have to work counts...are some pitches balls? yes. Is it the majority? No. If you want them to throw more strikes then make sure you are playing against harder pitchers. Bad pitchers have bad control and aren't going to throw strikes as much. That's what the ratings on the card mean.
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@Pergo_MLBTS said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
@trfatboy22_PSN said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
I wish I could understand your compaints and frustration but it really sounds like you guys don't like baseball to me. All of the content grinds for the most part (maybe the exception of Corbin Carroll) have been relatively minimal and there is a ton of content this year. It does feel like they could buff XP a bit that's fair but on the whole there hasn't been much of an issue for me.
If you are finding yourself feeling like you aren't "rewarded" while hitting then really this game isn't for you. Or at the very least you need to take a break. The other night I found myself getting upset so I literally just turned the game off and went to bed. Sometimes that's the most helpful thing for your mental.
Really well said and some great advice.
To me Rookie just means the CPU won't be as good as they are on higher difficulties. But it's still baseball. And part of pitchers being bad is throwing a lot of balls, not just throwing meatballs down the middle. This is part of the reason I never play on Rookie. Veteran plays fine for CPU stat grinds and is still incredibly easy.
It literally says (or used to say) in the user guide in DD that you should see more down-the-middle pitches on Rookie. They might have changed or removed that when they changed how Rookie pitches, but whatever Rookie "meant to you," this is what SDS meant it to be (at least at one time) and what it used to be, individual interpretation aside.
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@trfatboy22_PSN said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
@Loyal-Wiglaf_XBL So you want meatballs every pitch. That's insane. But regardless I play rookie a lot. They always throw strikes. You never have to work counts...are some pitches balls? yes. Is it the majority? No. If you want them to throw more strikes then make sure you are playing against harder pitchers. Bad pitchers have bad control and aren't going to throw strikes as much. That's what the ratings on the card mean.
Yep! Just what I said! Every single pitch! Sigh.
I want MOSTLY STRIKES, and that's a crapshoot on Rookie. It didn't used to be like that pre-24.
Peace.
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Sounds like what you guys are looking for is a Home Run Derby mode. That's not what this is. It's a baseball game.
But either way, it's still insanely easy to rack up stats on these lower levels. I'm not great at this game or anything, and I played a game on Veteran at Coors yesterday for the Spotlight grind and won like 24-0 or something with 30 something hits. I'm not sure how it could get much easier than that.
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@Loyal-Wiglaf_XBL You do get mostly strikes. But as I said if you are experiencing more balls it's because you are playing against worse pitchers. But regardless I never walk on rookie. because they aren't throwing mostly balls. You are just whining to whine because you can't beat the game good enough. Its sad tbh. I hope you find the help you need.
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If Rookie is so bad, just play on Veteran; it’s not that steep of a step to take
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@Loyal-Wiglaf_XBL said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
@YOSHI24_XBL said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
Interesting discussing in the last post: Is it really about rookie not being easy enough or (and I think it is just that) easy not being easy enough getting xp / something done quicker. If it is the last part, then something is totally wrong (in the thinking process). This is a baseball game and not an „we make it easy for you to get xp fast“-one
Appreciate your response to my post, and we will definitely disagree. Before last year's game, Rookie setting gave you far more strikes, including meatballs. They had to patch it last year after admitting that balls were out of control. It's never returned to pre-24 Rookie mode -- even though I haven't played much this year, it's been obvious.
I'll repeat again that it's not about "not liking baseball" -- DD is a sports RPG mode, sort of, and a lot of people playing on Rookie could win almost always on All-Star or HOF against the computer. I'm one of them. I simply do NOT want to work counts on Rookie. And lots of people share my POV. If I need 10 HR with left fielders and I load up a game at Coors on Rookie, I do NOT want to work counts, period. I do not want to get to 3-2, and I do not want to walk. This is not "not liking baseball," it's wanting the old Rookie setting back. That's all.
Okay … but be honest: You want Rookie back because you want to grind quicker/get missions done faster?
… Imo, wrong way of „playing“ a baseball videogame and I get that they made it more realistic (the superman-fielders are the way worse problem imo 
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@Pergo_MLBTS said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
Sounds like what you guys are looking for is a Home Run Derby mode. That's not what this is. It's a baseball game.
But either way, it's still insanely easy to rack up stats on these lower levels. I'm not great at this game or anything, and I played a game on Veteran at Coors yesterday for the Spotlight grind and won like 24-0 or something with 30 something hits. I'm not sure how it could get much easier than that.
absolutely agree … The game should not be a meatball simulator (like 24). The pci is big enough, if you swing at every pitch and expect it to be a very good pitch, then something is off … in the end: it is a baseball sim like videogame
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What’s funny is that there are three consistent type of answers from folks who disagree with us who say that something’s up with hitting:
“Something’s up with hitting? Get gud!”
“Something’s up with hitting? Ah, you just want the rewards without doing the grind!”
“Something’s up with hitting? Go play another game!”
No, we enjoy playing but SOMETHING’S UP WITH HITTING. It’s as simple as that and we’d like it fixed!
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Well said and spot on. Excuses for either a broken game mechanic or an intentional change by SDS to slow the grind. Those are the only 2 answers that make any logical sense at all.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN ok, how do you explain that I’m hitting better this year than 21-22-24? (Skipped 23) I had way better cards earlier in 24 and most of my players are over 50-100 avg better than last year? The game is fine; not perfect by any stretch but hitting is fine. Still bombing away.
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Fwiw(and no inside info), I think SDS is trying to slow us down on the grind. I’m hopeful that they will see they’ve “over corrected” and quietly readjust in the 3rd inning.
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@trfatboy22_PSN Lol, hilarious. The help I need is not playing the game, and I don't. I pop on here a few minutes a day to see how the year is going. You seem to be one of those forum white knights who thinks that someone who explains his problem with the game in a way that is at odds with you "needs help." My take has been logical, middle-of-the-road, and without resorting to extremes -- unlike you, who claim that I want ALL meatballs or HRD mode. That's not close to what I said, but it's easier for people to straw-man arguments they disagree with rather than sitting in the messy middle where people legitimately can disagree. My AP Lang juniors would have a field day with our exchange, how you project/misrepresent/straw-man the opposing POV. Echo chamber argumentation, 10/10! Fair representation of the other side?...3/10, maybe. But all good -- it's just a game
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@Loyal-Wiglaf_XBL How long did it take Chat GPT to write this for you? Lot of big words for someone who thinks Rookie is too hard.
