Hitting Engine/ Glitches
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Rookie should never be meatballs down the middle of the plate, this game is never meant to be easy it's called a grind for a reason and if you don't like it then don't play
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@YOSHI24_XBL yes it’s refreshing to get walks on Rookie sometimes and rewarding to show patience down 0-2 and get the walk. Also nice to have OBP different from AVG cause get walks. Didn’t really get that when played mvp baseball 05. For me anyway.
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It wouldn’t be so bad but they cranked up all the program requirements and nerfed the xp and exit velocities to increase the grind time.
This is the fault of all those no lifers that bragged about finishing programs in less than an hour and having nothing to do.
Absolutely ruined the game for casual players with jobs, families and lives outside gaming. It’s really dang frustrating when an outlet is ruined for others to unwind from real life stress and pressures.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN the only things that are timed are XP paths and MP programs; all the other stuff you can do at your own pace. Some will be early, some late.
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@trfatboy22_PSN said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
I wish I could understand your compaints and frustration but it really sounds like you guys don't like baseball to me. All of the content grinds for the most part (maybe the exception of Corbin Carroll) have been relatively minimal and there is a ton of content this year. It does feel like they could buff XP a bit that's fair but on the whole there hasn't been much of an issue for me.
If you are finding yourself feeling like you aren't "rewarded" while hitting then really this game isn't for you. Or at the very least you need to take a break. The other night I found myself getting upset so I literally just turned the game off and went to bed. Sometimes that's the most helpful thing for your mental.
Really well said and some great advice.
To me Rookie just means the CPU won't be as good as they are on higher difficulties. But it's still baseball. And part of pitchers being bad is throwing a lot of balls, not just throwing meatballs down the middle. This is part of the reason I never play on Rookie. Veteran plays fine for CPU stat grinds and is still incredibly easy.
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Interesting discussing in the last post: Is it really about rookie not being easy enough or (and I think it is just that) easy not being easy enough getting xp / something done quicker. If it is the last part, then something is totally wrong (in the thinking process). This is a baseball game and not an „we make it easy for you to get xp fast“-one
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@TripleH-4481_PSN There is nothing wrong with Exit Velocities. And almost every program still takes only a couple hours still.
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@YOSHI24_XBL said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
Interesting discussing in the last post: Is it really about rookie not being easy enough or (and I think it is just that) easy not being easy enough getting xp / something done quicker. If it is the last part, then something is totally wrong (in the thinking process). This is a baseball game and not an „we make it easy for you to get xp fast“-one
Appreciate your response to my post, and we will definitely disagree. Before last year's game, Rookie setting gave you far more strikes, including meatballs. They had to patch it last year after admitting that balls were out of control. It's never returned to pre-24 Rookie mode -- even though I haven't played much this year, it's been obvious.
I'll repeat again that it's not about "not liking baseball" -- DD is a sports RPG mode, sort of, and a lot of people playing on Rookie could win almost always on All-Star or HOF against the computer. I'm one of them. I simply do NOT want to work counts on Rookie. And lots of people share my POV. If I need 10 HR with left fielders and I load up a game at Coors on Rookie, I do NOT want to work counts, period. I do not want to get to 3-2, and I do not want to walk. This is not "not liking baseball," it's wanting the old Rookie setting back. That's all.
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Yes. The grind requires very specific stats with particular players and usually they are a big ask for very little program progress.
I just want to get it done and not have to hunt my pitch every at bat and hope I don’t miss it. I play the game for fun because I love baseball and work hard all day.
Let the sweats sweat it out on higher difficulties as it’s their prerogative. I just want to chill out and enjoy the little down time I get a few days a week.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
Yes. The grind requires very specific stats with particular players and usually they are a big ask for very little program progress.
I just want to get it done and not have to hunt my pitch every at bat and hope I don’t miss it. I play the game for fun because I love baseball and work hard all day.
Let the sweats sweat it out on higher difficulties as it’s their prerogative. I just want to chill out and enjoy the little down time I get a few days a week.
Exactly. You can love baseball and want an easy, unrealistic Rookie mode to grind in a relaxed way. There's very little cognitive dissonance in that combination. If that's not for you, fine; but don't paint people as not loving baseball because of it.
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@Loyal-Wiglaf_XBL No but it is that already. Do you win 30-0 every game no of course not. But that's because baseball has too much variance for that. But the grinds (again with the one exception of the newest Langford Spotlight) have extremely easy grinds. And the few more difficult stat missions you don't have to do because the moments take care of those.
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@trfatboy22_PSN said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
@Loyal-Wiglaf_XBL No but it is that already. Do you win 30-0 every game no of course not. But that's because baseball has too much variance for that. But the grinds (again with the one exception of the newest Langford Spotlight) have extremely easy grinds. And the few more difficult stat missions you don't have to do because the moments take care of those.
Missing the point. They changed Rookie pitching last year and it's never returned to pre-24. It's still -- and always will be -- incredibly easy to win on Rookie. They just made it more annoying. Don't waste my time with 3 balls a foot off the plate on Rookie. Again: I don't want to -- and we shouldn't have to -- work counts on Rookie. That's one huge reason why I barely play anymore (so I don't even know what programs you're referring to, sorry).
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@Loyal-Wiglaf_XBL So you want meatballs every pitch. That's insane. But regardless I play rookie a lot. They always throw strikes. You never have to work counts...are some pitches balls? yes. Is it the majority? No. If you want them to throw more strikes then make sure you are playing against harder pitchers. Bad pitchers have bad control and aren't going to throw strikes as much. That's what the ratings on the card mean.
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@Pergo_MLBTS said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
@trfatboy22_PSN said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
I wish I could understand your compaints and frustration but it really sounds like you guys don't like baseball to me. All of the content grinds for the most part (maybe the exception of Corbin Carroll) have been relatively minimal and there is a ton of content this year. It does feel like they could buff XP a bit that's fair but on the whole there hasn't been much of an issue for me.
If you are finding yourself feeling like you aren't "rewarded" while hitting then really this game isn't for you. Or at the very least you need to take a break. The other night I found myself getting upset so I literally just turned the game off and went to bed. Sometimes that's the most helpful thing for your mental.
Really well said and some great advice.
To me Rookie just means the CPU won't be as good as they are on higher difficulties. But it's still baseball. And part of pitchers being bad is throwing a lot of balls, not just throwing meatballs down the middle. This is part of the reason I never play on Rookie. Veteran plays fine for CPU stat grinds and is still incredibly easy.
It literally says (or used to say) in the user guide in DD that you should see more down-the-middle pitches on Rookie. They might have changed or removed that when they changed how Rookie pitches, but whatever Rookie "meant to you," this is what SDS meant it to be (at least at one time) and what it used to be, individual interpretation aside.
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@trfatboy22_PSN said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
@Loyal-Wiglaf_XBL So you want meatballs every pitch. That's insane. But regardless I play rookie a lot. They always throw strikes. You never have to work counts...are some pitches balls? yes. Is it the majority? No. If you want them to throw more strikes then make sure you are playing against harder pitchers. Bad pitchers have bad control and aren't going to throw strikes as much. That's what the ratings on the card mean.
Yep! Just what I said! Every single pitch! Sigh.
I want MOSTLY STRIKES, and that's a crapshoot on Rookie. It didn't used to be like that pre-24.
Peace.
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Sounds like what you guys are looking for is a Home Run Derby mode. That's not what this is. It's a baseball game.
But either way, it's still insanely easy to rack up stats on these lower levels. I'm not great at this game or anything, and I played a game on Veteran at Coors yesterday for the Spotlight grind and won like 24-0 or something with 30 something hits. I'm not sure how it could get much easier than that.
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@Loyal-Wiglaf_XBL You do get mostly strikes. But as I said if you are experiencing more balls it's because you are playing against worse pitchers. But regardless I never walk on rookie. because they aren't throwing mostly balls. You are just whining to whine because you can't beat the game good enough. Its sad tbh. I hope you find the help you need.
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If Rookie is so bad, just play on Veteran; it’s not that steep of a step to take
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@Loyal-Wiglaf_XBL said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
@YOSHI24_XBL said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
Interesting discussing in the last post: Is it really about rookie not being easy enough or (and I think it is just that) easy not being easy enough getting xp / something done quicker. If it is the last part, then something is totally wrong (in the thinking process). This is a baseball game and not an „we make it easy for you to get xp fast“-one
Appreciate your response to my post, and we will definitely disagree. Before last year's game, Rookie setting gave you far more strikes, including meatballs. They had to patch it last year after admitting that balls were out of control. It's never returned to pre-24 Rookie mode -- even though I haven't played much this year, it's been obvious.
I'll repeat again that it's not about "not liking baseball" -- DD is a sports RPG mode, sort of, and a lot of people playing on Rookie could win almost always on All-Star or HOF against the computer. I'm one of them. I simply do NOT want to work counts on Rookie. And lots of people share my POV. If I need 10 HR with left fielders and I load up a game at Coors on Rookie, I do NOT want to work counts, period. I do not want to get to 3-2, and I do not want to walk. This is not "not liking baseball," it's wanting the old Rookie setting back. That's all.
Okay … but be honest: You want Rookie back because you want to grind quicker/get missions done faster?
… Imo, wrong way of „playing“ a baseball videogame and I get that they made it more realistic (the superman-fielders are the way worse problem imo
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@Pergo_MLBTS said in Hitting Engine/ Glitches:
Sounds like what you guys are looking for is a Home Run Derby mode. That's not what this is. It's a baseball game.
But either way, it's still insanely easy to rack up stats on these lower levels. I'm not great at this game or anything, and I played a game on Veteran at Coors yesterday for the Spotlight grind and won like 24-0 or something with 30 something hits. I'm not sure how it could get much easier than that.
absolutely agree … The game should not be a meatball simulator (like 24). The pci is big enough, if you swing at every pitch and expect it to be a very good pitch, then something is off … in the end: it is a baseball sim like videogame