Official Thread for Bugs and issues in Stadium Creator for MLB the Show 25
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@PriorFir4383355_XBL said in Official Thread for Bugs and issues in Stadium Creator for MLB the Show 25:
This below I just sent to SDS in the form of a suggestion ticket:
"Suggestion for Stadium Creator ...
First off, I'm not some teenager locked up in his parent's basement with nothing better to do than write this. Instead, I'm a 61 year old Air Force retiree who is also retired from his post-military civilian employment. In short, I own my home and I'm typing this from my office.
I've also owned and operated an aviation company and so know a thing or two about customer service and balancing the books and meeting payroll. So, let's get honest here.
Four years ago you released Stadium Creator and it was widely praised, rightfully so. But, since then you have largely ignored it. Yes, you added the night lighting option and last year the standing fans, and in the course of time various additional props of different appeal levels.
But, what you have not done is listen to your customers who are actually spending the time designing custom stadiums. And that choice to ignore customers is what I fail to understand.
We want the ability to create realistic stadiums that not only replicate modern ballparks, but can also reach back into history to the 1970's, 1950's, 1920's, and even the original days of baseball where games were played in municipal fairgrounds, polo grounds, and public parks.
To provide that we need a relative few but profound changes to how SC functions, and it's long overdue given the detailed feedback hundreds of good customers have provided to you.
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Give us the ability to modify the baseline walls in the exact same manner that we can currently modify the outfield walls.
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Get the bullpens off the baselines, or at the very least, finally give us the ability to place bullpens by making them a prop that can be placed on the field of play or outside it.
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Make the batters eye props workable in terms of placing standing fans on their concourse decks, and allow us to nudge the stand and concourse props tightly against the edges of them.
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Allow for home plate distance marks to be added to the wall props so that we can select a wall panel and designate it to show the distance tally to that panel. Also, give us the option to add the standard yellow lines to the top of the outfield walls and extended down from the foul poles.
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Adopt what are best described as building block props for a straight and curved stand prop that is small, no more than six rows across at the front and six rows deep, but that can snap and group with other stand props to build up stand sections as the customer desires. The curved stand prop should be no more than six seats at front row and eight or nine at rear row, six rows deep.
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To those two building block props add a simple concrete walkway prop that matches the stair stepped concrete base of the aforementioned stand props, and with that add a simple railing prop that matches the incline and also snaps and groups so that these can be added as needed to finish off a grouped section of seats.
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Create a new type of prop named "team branding" where the home team's cap logo, team logo, and team nickname can be added to props that can be placed on the backstop, baseline, outfield walls plus on the grass in chosen parts of the park's field of play.
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Increase the variation and number of concourse props. Create a straight and inclined concourse prop type that is thin and can be used to create realistic entryways integrated with the stands. Add additional texture options for the kinds of stonework used in today's and yesterday's ballparks. Add those additional texture types to the other concourse prop types.
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Change the current code to allow a roof style prop to be placed over the field of play provided it is above a set height to avoid interference with play. Obviously, this to allow design of retractable roof and domed stadiums.
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Add numbers to all the existing letter props and design new ones that are smaller to allow more realistic naming within stadiums.
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Add to the wall prop options a set of advertisements that can be placed on the backstop, baseline, and outfield walls.
You do these simple things, and we your customers will create custom stadiums that will greatly increase the appeal of your game, sell more units, and allow customers to create their own private leagues playing in stadiums from all sorts of historic and current eras, including their own custom teams.
It's time. Listen to your customers and do this!"
Bumping so this list stays at the top.
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@Jimmy502nd_PSN said in Official Thread for Bugs and issues in Stadium Creator for MLB the Show 25:
Something I realized tonight after playing in my created stadium on RTTS, there were no night games. All sunny day games with no wind. I must've played 10-15 home games, and all were the same. I don't remember this being an issue before.
To add to this post:
I got to thinking that maybe the reason why they were all showing as day games and no wind was because I was replacing Tropicana field, which we all know is a domed stadium. Turns out I was right. For my next away series, I changed Fenway to my custom stadium, and BINGO. It was a partly cloudy, night game, and windy. Some of you may have already known this, but it was news to me.
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No, you may well have discovered something. However, it makes me shake my head once again at SDS. It makes perfect sense that the domed or retractable roof stadiums would not allow a game to play in the rain, but they can certainly be played at night, or in foggy outside conditions.
For coders, this is a simple nested IF statement or better yet a CASE statement in coding, where you assign a boolean value that is true if an indoor type stadium or false if an outdoor stadium. Indoor stadiums (including retractable roof venues) would bypass the option to play the game during rain.
The point being, given this option is already in the code, but instead defaulted to daylight games only which is strange, the option could have been added to the stadium properties within Stadium Creator years ago and work in concert with creating a domed or retractable roof venue.
Just one more opportunity that SDS deliberately seems to miss, and as these things stack up it just reinforces the conclusion that SDS isn't really missing these options, they just don't want to include them in SC.
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@PriorFir4383355_XBL Maybe they should hire you to do some freelance stuff to help right this ship!
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Bumping the liat
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@Jimmy502nd_PSN said in Official Thread for Bugs and issues in Stadium Creator for MLB the Show 25:
@PriorFir4383355_XBL Maybe they should hire you to do some freelance stuff to help right this ship!
I've suggested to SDS that a few designers be invited to do a sitdown with SDS, whether it's through Zoom, Teams or whatever. The same way they chat with the streamers about online gameplay. Smonee, Alex, myself, Prior and a couple others have a really good beat on the creator and what it currently does, and what it could do if given the proper tools
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@Sarge1387_PSN we will do no work unless paid. Including that of my talents
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@Sarge1387_PSN said in Official Thread for Bugs and issues in Stadium Creator for MLB the Show 25:
@Jimmy502nd_PSN said in Official Thread for Bugs and issues in Stadium Creator for MLB the Show 25:
@PriorFir4383355_XBL Maybe they should hire you to do some freelance stuff to help right this ship!
I've suggested to SDS that a few designers be invited to do a sitdown with SDS, whether it's through Zoom, Teams or whatever. The same way they chat with the streamers about online gameplay. Smonee, Alex, myself, Prior and a couple others have a really good beat on the creator and what it currently does, and what it could do if given the proper tools
Look, I'm fully retired and my income is fortunately COLA adjusted each year, which is probably the best part of being career military. So, I would be happy to participate in such a round table, though in my case it would be audio not likely using video.
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S SDS_JoeK_PSN referenced this topic
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I recall that the decision to retain backward stadium compatibility started with MLB 24 and therefore applied to stadiums created within MLB 23 and uploaded to the vault. However, it appears that stadiums originally created within MLB 23 are no longer present in the vault. I created a replication of East Carolina's baseball park and folks are reporting at the Reddit sub-forum that they cannot find it.
Sadly, it is in the "My Stadiums" listings, but due to the bug with the stadium capacity erroneously showing millions of seats and the elevation figure erroneously displaying past the upper limit, none of the stadiums in the My Stadiums section of the vault can be downloaded by me into any of my 30 save slots.
So, we are essentially locked out of any access to our own prior work. And, it appears the community is unable to find previous work or even if they can, are unable to download it due to the two bugs.
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@SDS_JoeK_PSN thanks for acknowledging
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Another couple things to add to the list @SDS_JoeK_PSN
-If we could get seating blocks the size of the MiLB ones, but minus the press box.
-Chunks of angled seats at 45 and 22.5 degrees(helps round the corners more cleanly)
-Wrigley style Ivy for the wall type(when we hit triangle to cycle through the different wall colours). The current wall prop ivy is really lacking
-Maybe some more signs, already have the rights to the gear and logos so why not incorporate some nike, marucci, adidas, Oasics, Warstic etc signs?
-Few more MLB batter's eyes- Wrigley's, Coors Field, Yankee Stadium (with the fans already on it)
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@Sarge1387_PSN More variety and smaller signs would be nice.
Shallow stands without the deep concrete footprint would be nice, as well. I like to stack stand pieces on top of each other to give a different look.
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If there is going to be a round table, I would happily share my feedback as a creator.
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I'm more concerned about what is broken, than features we never had. I haven't been able to download a single stadium I wanted yet, so what broke that is causing this, and why can't they (won't they) fix what they broke?
I would love to have a dev job where I could break functionality and not be on the hook to fix it immediately.
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@Sarge1387_PSN said in Official Thread for Bugs and issues in Stadium Creator for MLB the Show 25:
Another couple things to add to the list @SDS_JoeK_PSN
-If we could get seating blocks the size of the MiLB ones, but minus the press box.
-Chunks of angled seats at 45 and 22.5 degrees(helps round the corners more cleanly)
-Wrigley style Ivy for the wall type(when we hit triangle to cycle through the different wall colours). The current wall prop ivy is really lacking
-Maybe some more signs, already have the rights to the gear and logos so why not incorporate some nike, marucci, adidas, Oasics, Warstic etc signs?
-Few more MLB batter's eyes- Wrigley's, Coors Field, Yankee Stadium (with the fans already on it)
I used Gemini to create this image, but this style of seating would be great, as it would add different options. This is more along the lines of what we mean by smaller seating blocks
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Minor in relation to SC not working, and the major things we’ve been asking for years, but:
1- Cactus Options
2- Canadian Flag Options
3- More Cars, Busses, etc that are able to be placed individually—especially modern day types.
4-Fences that can once again be “chained” next to each other like it used to be—and an option to have all chain fence
5-Glass outfield wall option (like was in Atlanta Fulton County Stadium in the 1970s and 1980s)
6-Pre-set seating where fans are sitting at tables, benches, posh seating, fan decks and similar props. Currently, the “empty” seating props are usable by having standing fans nearby, but would be even better if they could have such items with fans sitting there already.
7-Concourse pieces (and props) that don’t “pixelize ” when put on top of each other.Thank you!
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@Sarge1387_PSN said in Official Thread for Bugs and issues in Stadium Creator for MLB the Show 25:
@Sarge1387_PSN said in Official Thread for Bugs and issues in Stadium Creator for MLB the Show 25:
Another couple things to add to the list @SDS_JoeK_PSN
-If we could get seating blocks the size of the MiLB ones, but minus the press box.
-Chunks of angled seats at 45 and 22.5 degrees(helps round the corners more cleanly)
-Wrigley style Ivy for the wall type(when we hit triangle to cycle through the different wall colours). The current wall prop ivy is really lacking
-Maybe some more signs, already have the rights to the gear and logos so why not incorporate some nike, marucci, adidas, Oasics, Warstic etc signs?
-Few more MLB batter's eyes- Wrigley's, Coors Field, Yankee Stadium (with the fans already on it)
I used Gemini to create this image, but this style of seating would be great, as it would add different options. This is more along the lines of what we mean by smaller seating blocks
This is precisely the motivation behind my "building block" stand request. With a small block of seats (straight and curved) one could snap multiple such blocks together and construct precisely the setup you have in those images.
Then, if the walls behind home plate could be edited same as the outfield walls currently can be, then you can change the "oval" default shape behind home plate in the Blank Template, to replicate the angular configuration in your images.
About the only nuance I feel I should add to the baseline wall edit request is that the dugouts have to remain the same, but that means they should be affixed to the wall panel that is immediately left and right of the dugouts. You move those panels and the dugout rotates and slides with it. This in the same way that the foul poles are permanently connected to the outfield wall panels at the foul lines.
What's missing in SC is the ability to customize the basic layout and appearance of the stadiums.
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@PriorFir4383355_XBL said in Official Thread for Bugs and issues in Stadium Creator for MLB the Show 25:
the dugouts have to remain the same,
I agree with that, and made so that the foul ground can't be pinched in until one panel after the dugout.
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@Sarge1387_PSN said in Official Thread for Bugs and issues in Stadium Creator for MLB the Show 25:
@PriorFir4383355_XBL said in Official Thread for Bugs and issues in Stadium Creator for MLB the Show 25:
the dugouts have to remain the same,
I agree with that, and made so that the foul ground can't be pinched in until one panel after the dugout.
Actually, I've come to change my view on this some. We can actually advocate for a greater level of flexibility here. The dugouts have to remain the same in terms of depth and length. However, they can rotate and move toward and away from their respective baselines.
Think of the concept like this ...
There is a wall panel attached to each side of each dugout. That attachment is fixed. However, if you move the wall panel then that side of the dugout rotates and moves in/out respective the baseline. In this way, you can move the backstop wall section toward or away from home plate. Of course, there has to be a minimum and maximum amount of foul ground, but that would code up the same way that there is already a maximum and minimum distance for the outfield walls from home plate.
If you notice with real world baseball stadiums, the orientation of the dugouts are different. Some are rotated to face home plate, others parallel to the baseline, and a few the dugouts actually rotate a bit away from home plate. What I just described is how actual ballparks are designed. The dugouts have to remain straight, but the amount of foul territory between the dugouts and the baselines is significantly different.
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You're picturing something like this
vs this
(again, using a couple of my renders for examples)
