I love the bugs! EVERYONE SHOULD LOOK AT THE TOP IMAGE!
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So not only does the game not always register “good” contact when it should, it completely alters the input on its own.
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Personally I like beatles more
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@awesomeMIZg said in I love the bugs!:
So, uh, I was looking at some film from my recent game, seems that I have encountered several problems with PCI placement and fielding! At this point, I don't care because it isn't getting fixed, but jeez the evidence is here, and I think it is cold hard evidence that the game is screwing people for the most stupidest reasons. Probably because we need to cater to casual players that need to win so lets give them a standing chance (AT 500-600 level rating in RS)
First, PCI placement:
Take a look at these two images:
Eddie Matthews HR: https://gyazo.com/b231cbf1e4c0ab317ebcb52e749a7813 / https://gyazo.com/13af83d7af4fbd57f0770a23f18170f0-The PCI was above the ball, not by a ton, but where the feedback shows where the ball is. doesn't make a ton of sense. The ball was above the top line (where a perfect flyball goes) and slightly right of the center circle. Not by a ton, but not to the extent of where the ball was actually hit. The ball was higher than the PCI therefore, the feedback should show the ball higher, no?
Reggie Jackson Lineout RF: https://gyazo.com/afcc19ae210a98d04dabab022f1d2f99 / https://gyazo.com/5d4ed64bb3e187f6c07f9efdd061a1b0
-The PCI is slightly off from where the ball was actually hit and where the PCI was in the game itself. Furthermore, the ball thrown was a straight 4 seam fastball, the thing is not moving like a cutter, so the placement on the feedback is slightly off, and the game registers that instead of where the ball was, top circle middle PCI, which would be a "Perfect Perfect".
Synopsis:
Maybe I am completely wrong about hitting, and this is supposed to happen, just doesn't seem correct to me. I may also be looking at the images wrong or there isn't enough to prove anything. But the two balls hit here are shown in nearly the same spot in the PCI. Jackson's ball was pretty much in the middle of the PCI and was shown slightly off the middle and lower than where it was hit in game. Again, I may be wrong.
HOLY FIELDING!
https://gyazo.com/ca32c92f26846f03204fd3cba74664c9- THAT IS RICKY HENDERSON IN CENTER. I am defending my opponent here, he was camping under it, and Henderson with, uh Diamond Fielding, and as routine as it gets, shouldn't have literally whiffed on this ball. Even I could make that play and I don't play center field. This was absolute SDSBS, and just [censored] this guy over.
https://gyazo.com/0862d19a9801aff2e472b1202a162c15
- Okay WHAT? How the hell does the first baseman not make the play???? It landed 2 feet behind him! The fielding decided that it would lock as his right fielder, WHO HAS NO BUSINESS FIELDING A BALL THE SHALLOW, and the first baseman easily should make the play. However he looks like a complete idiot and keeps running like "AHHNH AHHH PROBLEM!!!". This happens more times than you think! To me, to my opponent, it doesn't matter. The first baseman or second baseman easily make a play on a weak pop up into shallow right field (that is if they are decent). However, the game decided that the best player to field the ball is the RIGHT FIELDER, who is playing out near the wall.
SDS please at least fix the fielding annimations, they really suck right now and really screw over people in very important games. The game should have been 3-1 or even 2-1 but the game messed up and screwed over my opponent, making him rage. It wasn't a fair win and I feel bad that it happened to him because I literally hate that.
I think that the hitting for both circumstances is reasonable. You can still hit a high fly ball with eddie and it can still be a home run, don't see anything wrong with it. It was good timing, not perfect timing, so you can still be early on the ball and pull it hard for a homer, nothing wrong with that
The lineout with reggie also seems understandable too. You almost got a perfect perfect, key word almost. You can see the ball sticking out a bit and I can totally see why thats not a perfect perfect.
In real life sometimes you see homers that are like, how in the hell do you turn on that, or even hit that out, like off the end of the bat. Eddie was probably a screamer line drive that went over the right field wall. Reggie, although unfortunate, you do see balls that are clobbered, but they somehow find a glove. I know that its a video game and that you want it to be perfect, but I do understand why you're getting frustrated. However, I do think that both hits were plausible in both real life and for the game.
I'm really too lazy to look at your fielding pictures, but if you don't have at least silver fielding theres going to be a problem.
Never mind, I decided to look at both.
1)Sorry for being technical but ricky has gold fielding. And I'm pretty sure he's in his secondary. Even though he has 99 speed (I think) he plays left field, garbage animation, totally agree.
But for your first baseman, that is a hit. Your first baseman isn't Willie mays, he's not the fastest, doesn't have the best glove. BS hit, I agree but sometimes in real life there are BS basehits. But that ball should've dropped, if your guy would've caught it, he is an absolute legend. -
@dingers4days14 said in I love the bugs!:
@awesomeMIZg said in I love the bugs!:
So, uh, I was looking at some film from my recent game, seems that I have encountered several problems with PCI placement and fielding! At this point, I don't care because it isn't getting fixed, but jeez the evidence is here, and I think it is cold hard evidence that the game is screwing people for the most stupidest reasons. Probably because we need to cater to casual players that need to win so lets give them a standing chance (AT 500-600 level rating in RS)
First, PCI placement:
Take a look at these two images:
Eddie Matthews HR: https://gyazo.com/b231cbf1e4c0ab317ebcb52e749a7813 / https://gyazo.com/13af83d7af4fbd57f0770a23f18170f0-The PCI was above the ball, not by a ton, but where the feedback shows where the ball is. doesn't make a ton of sense. The ball was above the top line (where a perfect flyball goes) and slightly right of the center circle. Not by a ton, but not to the extent of where the ball was actually hit. The ball was higher than the PCI therefore, the feedback should show the ball higher, no?
Reggie Jackson Lineout RF: https://gyazo.com/afcc19ae210a98d04dabab022f1d2f99 / https://gyazo.com/5d4ed64bb3e187f6c07f9efdd061a1b0
-The PCI is slightly off from where the ball was actually hit and where the PCI was in the game itself. Furthermore, the ball thrown was a straight 4 seam fastball, the thing is not moving like a cutter, so the placement on the feedback is slightly off, and the game registers that instead of where the ball was, top circle middle PCI, which would be a "Perfect Perfect".
Synopsis:
Maybe I am completely wrong about hitting, and this is supposed to happen, just doesn't seem correct to me. I may also be looking at the images wrong or there isn't enough to prove anything. But the two balls hit here are shown in nearly the same spot in the PCI. Jackson's ball was pretty much in the middle of the PCI and was shown slightly off the middle and lower than where it was hit in game. Again, I may be wrong.
HOLY FIELDING!
https://gyazo.com/ca32c92f26846f03204fd3cba74664c9- THAT IS RICKY HENDERSON IN CENTER. I am defending my opponent here, he was camping under it, and Henderson with, uh Diamond Fielding, and as routine as it gets, shouldn't have literally whiffed on this ball. Even I could make that play and I don't play center field. This was absolute SDSBS, and just [censored] this guy over.
https://gyazo.com/0862d19a9801aff2e472b1202a162c15
- Okay WHAT? How the hell does the first baseman not make the play???? It landed 2 feet behind him! The fielding decided that it would lock as his right fielder, WHO HAS NO BUSINESS FIELDING A BALL THE SHALLOW, and the first baseman easily should make the play. However he looks like a complete idiot and keeps running like "AHHNH AHHH PROBLEM!!!". This happens more times than you think! To me, to my opponent, it doesn't matter. The first baseman or second baseman easily make a play on a weak pop up into shallow right field (that is if they are decent). However, the game decided that the best player to field the ball is the RIGHT FIELDER, who is playing out near the wall.
SDS please at least fix the fielding annimations, they really suck right now and really screw over people in very important games. The game should have been 3-1 or even 2-1 but the game messed up and screwed over my opponent, making him rage. It wasn't a fair win and I feel bad that it happened to him because I literally hate that.
I think that the hitting for both circumstances is reasonable. You can still hit a high fly ball with eddie and it can still be a home run, don't see anything wrong with it. It was good timing, not perfect timing, so you can still be early on the ball and pull it hard for a homer, nothing wrong with that
The lineout with reggie also seems understandable too. You almost got a perfect perfect, key word almost. You can see the ball sticking out a bit and I can totally see why thats not a perfect perfect.
In real life sometimes you see homers that are like, how in the hell do you turn on that, or even hit that out, like off the end of the bat. Eddie was probably a screamer line drive that went over the right field wall. Reggie, although unfortunate, you do see balls that are clobbered, but they somehow find a glove. I know that its a video game and that you want it to be perfect, but I do understand why you're getting frustrated. However, I do think that both hits were plausible in both real life and for the game.
I'm really too lazy to look at your fielding pictures, but if you don't have at least silver fielding theres going to be a problem.
Never mind, I decided to look at both.
1)Sorry for being technical but ricky has gold fielding. And I'm pretty sure he's in his secondary. Even though he has 99 speed (I think) he plays left field, garbage animation, totally agree.
But for your first baseman, that is a hit. Your first baseman isn't Willie mays, he's not the fastest, doesn't have the best glove. BS hit, I agree but sometimes in real life there are BS basehits. But that ball should've dropped, if your guy would've caught it, he is an absolute legend.Ricky's primary is center field. And I believe the ball is playable and catchable for the first base play, just look where it lands and look and where the first baseman is. I am not saying your wrong but I just dont see how it doesn't get caught. Rickey has a Diamond Fielding in the aspect that his overall fielding is a diamond, not the fielding attribute. There was no excuse for him to miss.
I get your points on the hitting, but still from what I can see, the PCI Placement and the feedback that is shown is slightly different.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in I love the bugs!:
My favorite bug is the Buffalo Treehopper.
Cute little fella...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_treehopper#/media/File%3ABueffelzikade.jpg
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@j9milz said in I love the bugs!:
Gonna just reply here just to make sure more people see this thread
Wdym?
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@dingers4days14 said in I love the bugs!:
@awesomeMIZg said in I love the bugs!:
So, uh, I was looking at some film from my recent game, seems that I have encountered several problems with PCI placement and fielding! At this point, I don't care because it isn't getting fixed, but jeez the evidence is here, and I think it is cold hard evidence that the game is screwing people for the most stupidest reasons. Probably because we need to cater to casual players that need to win so lets give them a standing chance (AT 500-600 level rating in RS)
First, PCI placement:
Take a look at these two images:
Eddie Matthews HR: https://gyazo.com/b231cbf1e4c0ab317ebcb52e749a7813 / https://gyazo.com/13af83d7af4fbd57f0770a23f18170f0-The PCI was above the ball, not by a ton, but where the feedback shows where the ball is. doesn't make a ton of sense. The ball was above the top line (where a perfect flyball goes) and slightly right of the center circle. Not by a ton, but not to the extent of where the ball was actually hit. The ball was higher than the PCI therefore, the feedback should show the ball higher, no?
Reggie Jackson Lineout RF: https://gyazo.com/afcc19ae210a98d04dabab022f1d2f99 / https://gyazo.com/5d4ed64bb3e187f6c07f9efdd061a1b0
-The PCI is slightly off from where the ball was actually hit and where the PCI was in the game itself. Furthermore, the ball thrown was a straight 4 seam fastball, the thing is not moving like a cutter, so the placement on the feedback is slightly off, and the game registers that instead of where the ball was, top circle middle PCI, which would be a "Perfect Perfect".
Synopsis:
Maybe I am completely wrong about hitting, and this is supposed to happen, just doesn't seem correct to me. I may also be looking at the images wrong or there isn't enough to prove anything. But the two balls hit here are shown in nearly the same spot in the PCI. Jackson's ball was pretty much in the middle of the PCI and was shown slightly off the middle and lower than where it was hit in game. Again, I may be wrong.
HOLY FIELDING!
https://gyazo.com/ca32c92f26846f03204fd3cba74664c9- THAT IS RICKY HENDERSON IN CENTER. I am defending my opponent here, he was camping under it, and Henderson with, uh Diamond Fielding, and as routine as it gets, shouldn't have literally whiffed on this ball. Even I could make that play and I don't play center field. This was absolute SDSBS, and just [censored] this guy over.
https://gyazo.com/0862d19a9801aff2e472b1202a162c15
- Okay WHAT? How the hell does the first baseman not make the play???? It landed 2 feet behind him! The fielding decided that it would lock as his right fielder, WHO HAS NO BUSINESS FIELDING A BALL THE SHALLOW, and the first baseman easily should make the play. However he looks like a complete idiot and keeps running like "AHHNH AHHH PROBLEM!!!". This happens more times than you think! To me, to my opponent, it doesn't matter. The first baseman or second baseman easily make a play on a weak pop up into shallow right field (that is if they are decent). However, the game decided that the best player to field the ball is the RIGHT FIELDER, who is playing out near the wall.
SDS please at least fix the fielding annimations, they really suck right now and really screw over people in very important games. The game should have been 3-1 or even 2-1 but the game messed up and screwed over my opponent, making him rage. It wasn't a fair win and I feel bad that it happened to him because I literally hate that.
I think that the hitting for both circumstances is reasonable. You can still hit a high fly ball with eddie and it can still be a home run, don't see anything wrong with it. It was good timing, not perfect timing, so you can still be early on the ball and pull it hard for a homer, nothing wrong with that
The lineout with reggie also seems understandable too. You almost got a perfect perfect, key word almost. You can see the ball sticking out a bit and I can totally see why thats not a perfect perfect.
In real life sometimes you see homers that are like, how in the hell do you turn on that, or even hit that out, like off the end of the bat. Eddie was probably a screamer line drive that went over the right field wall. Reggie, although unfortunate, you do see balls that are clobbered, but they somehow find a glove. I know that its a video game and that you want it to be perfect, but I do understand why you're getting frustrated. However, I do think that both hits were plausible in both real life and for the game.
I'm really too lazy to look at your fielding pictures, but if you don't have at least silver fielding theres going to be a problem.
Never mind, I decided to look at both.
1)Sorry for being technical but ricky has gold fielding. And I'm pretty sure he's in his secondary. Even though he has 99 speed (I think) he plays left field, garbage animation, totally agree.
But for your first baseman, that is a hit. Your first baseman isn't Willie mays, he's not the fastest, doesn't have the best glove. BS hit, I agree but sometimes in real life there are BS basehits. But that ball should've dropped, if your guy would've caught it, he is an absolute legend.This guy is the reason fielding won’t change lmao. These are professional athletes. It doesn’t happen this often in real life. Lmao come on man.
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Okay everyone HAS to see this like right now!
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@j9milz said in I love the bugs! EVERYONE SHOULD LOOK AT THE TOP IMAGE!:
Trying to keep it alive. If no one comments. It get buried beneath new and recently commented threads
Can only keep the truth alive for a while my guy. Hopefully more people see this but if they don't I'm cool with it.
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It's called DDA. People need to get used to it. It's why you hear roll of the dice and and RNG around here. User input is dead. We're just sitting back and watching the programing play these days.
Not one dev can tell you how to work on hitting around here because the outcomes are random.
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@mucous052army said in I love the bugs! EVERYONE SHOULD LOOK AT THE TOP IMAGE!:
It's called DDA. People need to get used to it. It's why you hear roll of the dice and and RNG around here. User input is dead. We're just sitting back and watching the programing play these days.
Not one dev can tell you how to work on hitting around here because the outcomes are random.
Which is the problem with this game. It's does NOT reward user input, except plays lottery with out joysticks and makes the user useless. The game isn't realistic and it rewards awful player input and makes it unenjoyable to give up homeruns on good pitches that you can't control.
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This is refreshing to read. It's not just happening to me I mean outfielders are making atleast 1 or 2 errors a game and now it seems like they are struggling to even pick up the ball after making the error I just don't get it this is the major league not youth ball I mean I have never seen anyone running in to catch a line drive and just take it right off the chest especially the pros. It's becoming extremely frustrating. The pitching is definitely random which in turn is making people walk away from this game. If they are doing this to help the casual players then how about separating the casuals from people who are really competitive because I'm about at my breaking point with this bull [censored]. FIX THIS GAME NOBODY IN MLB DROPS 4 FLY BALLS IN 2 TO 3 GAMES ESPECIALLY [censored] SUPERSTARS AND LEGEND'S.
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@Elite_Sniper1982 said in I love the bugs! EVERYONE SHOULD LOOK AT THE TOP IMAGE!:
This is refreshing to read. It's not just happening to me I mean outfielders are making atleast 1 or 2 errors a game and now it seems like they are struggling to even pick up the ball after making the error I just don't get it this is the major league not youth ball I mean I have never seen anyone running in to catch a line drive and just take it right off the chest especially the pros. It's becoming extremely frustrating. The pitching is definitely random which in turn is making people walk away from this game. If they are doing this to help the casual players then how about separating the casuals from people who are really competitive because I'm about at my breaking point with this bull [censored]. FIX THIS GAME NOBODY IN MLB DROPS 4 FLY BALLS IN 2 TO 3 GAMES ESPECIALLY [censored] SUPERSTARS AND LEGEND'S.
Well said my man. Hopefully they fix it soon.
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@awesomeMIZg said in I love the bugs! EVERYONE SHOULD LOOK AT THE TOP IMAGE!:
@dingers4days14 said in I love the bugs!:
@awesomeMIZg said in I love the bugs!:
So, uh, I was looking at some film from my recent game, seems that I have encountered several problems with PCI placement and fielding! At this point, I don't care because it isn't getting fixed, but jeez the evidence is here, and I think it is cold hard evidence that the game is screwing people for the most stupidest reasons. Probably because we need to cater to casual players that need to win so lets give them a standing chance (AT 500-600 level rating in RS)
First, PCI placement:
Take a look at these two images:
Eddie Matthews HR: https://gyazo.com/b231cbf1e4c0ab317ebcb52e749a7813 / https://gyazo.com/13af83d7af4fbd57f0770a23f18170f0-The PCI was above the ball, not by a ton, but where the feedback shows where the ball is. doesn't make a ton of sense. The ball was above the top line (where a perfect flyball goes) and slightly right of the center circle. Not by a ton, but not to the extent of where the ball was actually hit. The ball was higher than the PCI therefore, the feedback should show the ball higher, no?
Reggie Jackson Lineout RF: https://gyazo.com/afcc19ae210a98d04dabab022f1d2f99 / https://gyazo.com/5d4ed64bb3e187f6c07f9efdd061a1b0
-The PCI is slightly off from where the ball was actually hit and where the PCI was in the game itself. Furthermore, the ball thrown was a straight 4 seam fastball, the thing is not moving like a cutter, so the placement on the feedback is slightly off, and the game registers that instead of where the ball was, top circle middle PCI, which would be a "Perfect Perfect".
Synopsis:
Maybe I am completely wrong about hitting, and this is supposed to happen, just doesn't seem correct to me. I may also be looking at the images wrong or there isn't enough to prove anything. But the two balls hit here are shown in nearly the same spot in the PCI. Jackson's ball was pretty much in the middle of the PCI and was shown slightly off the middle and lower than where it was hit in game. Again, I may be wrong.
HOLY FIELDING!
https://gyazo.com/ca32c92f26846f03204fd3cba74664c9- THAT IS RICKY HENDERSON IN CENTER. I am defending my opponent here, he was camping under it, and Henderson with, uh Diamond Fielding, and as routine as it gets, shouldn't have literally whiffed on this ball. Even I could make that play and I don't play center field. This was absolute SDSBS, and just [censored] this guy over.
https://gyazo.com/0862d19a9801aff2e472b1202a162c15
- Okay WHAT? How the hell does the first baseman not make the play???? It landed 2 feet behind him! The fielding decided that it would lock as his right fielder, WHO HAS NO BUSINESS FIELDING A BALL THE SHALLOW, and the first baseman easily should make the play. However he looks like a complete idiot and keeps running like "AHHNH AHHH PROBLEM!!!". This happens more times than you think! To me, to my opponent, it doesn't matter. The first baseman or second baseman easily make a play on a weak pop up into shallow right field (that is if they are decent). However, the game decided that the best player to field the ball is the RIGHT FIELDER, who is playing out near the wall.
SDS please at least fix the fielding annimations, they really suck right now and really screw over people in very important games. The game should have been 3-1 or even 2-1 but the game messed up and screwed over my opponent, making him rage. It wasn't a fair win and I feel bad that it happened to him because I literally hate that.
I think that the hitting for both circumstances is reasonable. You can still hit a high fly ball with eddie and it can still be a home run, don't see anything wrong with it. It was good timing, not perfect timing, so you can still be early on the ball and pull it hard for a homer, nothing wrong with that
The lineout with reggie also seems understandable too. You almost got a perfect perfect, key word almost. You can see the ball sticking out a bit and I can totally see why thats not a perfect perfect.
In real life sometimes you see homers that are like, how in the hell do you turn on that, or even hit that out, like off the end of the bat. Eddie was probably a screamer line drive that went over the right field wall. Reggie, although unfortunate, you do see balls that are clobbered, but they somehow find a glove. I know that its a video game and that you want it to be perfect, but I do understand why you're getting frustrated. However, I do think that both hits were plausible in both real life and for the game.
I'm really too lazy to look at your fielding pictures, but if you don't have at least silver fielding theres going to be a problem.
Never mind, I decided to look at both.
1)Sorry for being technical but ricky has gold fielding. And I'm pretty sure he's in his secondary. Even though he has 99 speed (I think) he plays left field, garbage animation, totally agree.
But for your first baseman, that is a hit. Your first baseman isn't Willie mays, he's not the fastest, doesn't have the best glove. BS hit, I agree but sometimes in real life there are BS basehits. But that ball should've dropped, if your guy would've caught it, he is an absolute legend.Ricky's primary is center field. And I believe the ball is playable and catchable for the first base play, just look where it lands and look and where the first baseman is. I am not saying your wrong but I just dont see how it doesn't get caught. Rickey has a Diamond Fielding in the aspect that his overall fielding is a diamond, not the fielding attribute. There was no excuse for him to miss.
I get your points on the hitting, but still from what I can see, the PCI Placement and the feedback that is shown is slightly different.
No, Ricky's primary is left field look it up.
Okay, when you look at his card it might say diamond, but I'm looking at only fielding, not arm or overall fielding. That is what is shows in the game.
You're honestly kidding that the first baseman could've made that catch that is so far away from the player, idk if he even would've caught that if he got lucky and dove. That is a hit, even though it was cheap. -
So in the first image, the ball that you got slightly under was a home run and the ball that you squared up was a line drive with similar exit velocity? What am I missing?
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@dingers4days14 said in I love the bugs! EVERYONE SHOULD LOOK AT THE TOP IMAGE!:
k if he even would've caught that if he got lucky and dove. That is a hit, even though it was cheap.
Rickey plays center field in this game, look it up.. he played center for the Yankees primary.
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@smalltownkid1990 said in I love the bugs! EVERYONE SHOULD LOOK AT THE TOP IMAGE!:
So in the first image, the ball that you got slightly under was a home run and the ball that you squared up was a line drive with similar exit velocity? What am I missing?
Just the fact that you can hit the ball the same way pretty much and one be a "Good Good" and go out and a "Good Squared" is just a hard lineout to right field, like playing catch.
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@awesomeMIZg said in I love the bugs! EVERYONE SHOULD LOOK AT THE TOP IMAGE!:
@smalltownkid1990 said in I love the bugs! EVERYONE SHOULD LOOK AT THE TOP IMAGE!:
So in the first image, the ball that you got slightly under was a home run and the ball that you squared up was a line drive with similar exit velocity? What am I missing?
Just the fact that you can hit the ball the same way pretty much and one be a "Good Good" and go out and a "Good Squared" is just a hard lineout to right field, like playing catch.
Squared up is always going to result in a line drive. Sometimes you hit it right at a fielder, sometimes you don’t. The ball that was hit for a home run was slightly under the ball, giving it a better launch angle for a home run. Physics is fun.
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