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  • Sarge1387_PSNS Offline
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    No different than a bunt clinging to the line by a stitch being fair. Same rules apply all the way down the line

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    @BiigD008 false.
    "Batted balls that directly strike either foul pole on the fly, or leave the park on a fly to the right of the left-field foul pole and to the left of the right-field foul pole are considered home runs."

    Has to come back inside.

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    @Sarge1387
    "Batted balls that directly strike either foul pole on the fly, or leave the park on a fly to the right of the left-field foul pole and to the left of the right-field foul pole are considered home runs."

    No. The ball has to foul it's way back inside bounds. Can't foul out into the stands the left of the left field or to the right of the right field foul pole.

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    @AdeptOfMemory said in Foul/fair pole:

    @Sarge1387
    "Batted balls that directly strike either foul pole on the fly, or leave the park on a fly to the right of the left-field foul pole and to the left of the right-field foul pole are considered home runs."

    No. The ball has to foul it's way back inside bounds. Can't foul out into the stands the left of the left field or to the right of the right field foul pole.

    Not sure why you tagged me on something completely unrelated to my comment, but ok good for you I guess?

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    @Sarge1387 You literally said the rules incorrectly wtf are you talking about??

    EDIT: I am very sorry I think I replied to the wrong person lol my apologies. Thank you for reply

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    @AdeptOfMemory

    All good, I probably should have clarified I was stating that the reason a ball that grazes the outside of the foul pole is fair for the same reason a bunt that parks on the outer edge of the line is still fair

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    @Sarge1387 and that made sense. I just wasn't reading it right or got your post confused with the one above it. You make sense cause that is the logical follow up to foul line rulings.

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    Let me ask you this simple question. You are trying to make a ruling standing 330 odd feet away from the critical point. What is the easier call?

    1. Trying to determine if a ball hit a pole, producing the sound and ricochet?

    2. Trying to determine if a ball hit one side of the pole or the other?

    Clearly, option one is the easier option and that is why the width of the pole is made as wide as it is. It is designed to give enough space for the umpires to easily determine that if the ball misses the pole, that it's easy to determine if it missed on the fair side, or the foul side.

    And that is why the foul pole is located so that every inch of it is in fair territory extended. It is no different than the chalk line. If the ball sprays white chalk, it's a visual clue that the ball landed fair.

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    Just like football; the line is part of the endzone. Break the plane, touchdown.

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    @yankblan

    Yes and no. In football, the out of bounds lines are in fact the start of the out of bounds. In baseball, it's the opposite setup. The lines are the end of the fair territory and the outside edges of the lines are where foul territory starts.

    So, if someone touches any part of the white line in football, they are out of bounds. Any part of the baseball that touches the white line is fair.

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    @PriorFir4383355 I was talking endzone, not out of bounds.

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  • LoneBlackMan_XBLL Offline
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    The field of play is not infinite. There is a wall and definitive boundaries marking territory in play. The poles mark the outer boundary of the fair field of play. After it has left the field of play the only way to determine if it was still in the fair field of play are the foul poles. The foul pole is a vertical extension of the foul line. A ball that hits the foul line is considered fair. As such a ball that hits any part of the foul pole should also be considered fair

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