Unbelievable win-loss records
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So I’m scrolling through the top rankings for this season and there are some teams with some records that just do not make logical sense. How does one actually go 53-0? How does one go 108-0? Something seems a bit fishy there. Anyone know what’s going on?
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They are players who are "good" and abuse the strike zone. They have figured out every pitcher and pitch type and know their timing very well. This game isn't like COD or Fortnite where movement and accuracy are factors but rather timing and precision matter the most. I don't think these players are hacking but they are VERY good at timing and abusing the games mechanics to get the wins. In almost all of those high level games they are double digit runners just seeing who can hit the most homeruns.
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It is an example of poor game development
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@AdeptOfMemory said in Unbelievable win-loss records:
They are players who are "good" and abuse the strike zone. They have figured out every pitcher and pitch type and know their timing very well. This game isn't like COD or Fortnite where movement and accuracy are factors but rather timing and precision matter the most. I don't think these players are hacking but they are VERY good at timing and abusing the games mechanics to get the wins. In almost all of those high level games they are double digit runners just seeing who can hit the most homeruns.
In short…so they are elite who have mastered timing of every pitch. I wouldnt say they abuse anything. When I think of abuse in videogames, I think of the 2-3 money plays in madden all the pros use that manipulate the AI on both sides of the ball.
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@ballneverlie So you don't think landing PCI on every outside pitch or dirt ball to keep fouling out until you get the pitch you want is NOT a form of abuse? My point is the top players aren't just good at timing, you have to take advantage of the massive flaws of the game to stay ahead.
It swings both ways. Good players at the top are being screwed by other players simply landing their PCI on well thrown pitches out of strike zone that try to get out of range of the bat. They will foul off until they get the pitch and result they want.
Don't assume I said the players at the top arnt good. I'm simply telling you the skill cap in this game is under jeopardy due to these issues. -
@AdeptOfMemory it is also very odd that so many players have triple digit wins and ZERO losses. That's almost unheard of in any competitive video game. How does that even happen? How do these extremely good players never play each other to get that loss?
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Honestly, does it matter? Not like all these wins are getting them anything special reward-wise (cards or stubs)
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@aaronjw76 I mean yeah wins are what gets you the XP and rewards in general. There is a daily cap so yeah you're mostly right. I think it's about trying to figure out how such a thing is possible considering these players MUST face each other at some point so how does neither of them lose to one another? It's also just so odd to see such staggering records. It's very fair to ask why and how it's happening.
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They play me 53 times?
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I wasn't born yesterday. They are cheating, just like no one believed players were taking steroids . They are cheating, with so many speed variations , locations they always win ? Even against other good players ? Common now.
Are they cyborgs? Exact precision every game both pitching and hitting , what about when their best pitcher has no energy ? -
I can only offer my experience…About 2 years ago I made WS and decided to go for 1000 rating…Well second match after hitting WS i got matched up with someone who had one of these insane records like you described. Well this guy absolutely destroys me. This is legend difficulty and this guy put up 17 runs in 4 innings & mercied me 17-4. I sat there in awe - Usually on legend most games are 1-0, 2-1, ect because it’s incredibly hard to hit on legend online. This guy was a unicorn crushing anything I put in the strike zone and laying off everything outside. I played Pitching Rebel…He didn’t cheat, He was just THAT GOOD. I understand why you think it’s impossible to have records like that but trust me - The top 1% of the top 1% are just special man.
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@IrishFist412 pitching rebel loses though. These guys mentioned haven’t. That’s the point.
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Watch some of these legend players play a game when they live stream.
They are that good.
Now, does it mean the specific ones you’re mentioning aren’t cheating? Who knows. I’d like to think SDS have some sort of detection of this, but I don’t know.
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@JDHalfrack the biggest ones I've seen are the stadium glitchers, freezers from balks, and the timing modders. You can modify controllers and the game to effectively give you perfect timing similarly to how FPS hacks allow precise timing on trigger pulls.
It's possible and I'm not being difficult or silly when I say it's very likely to have so many because of how much the devs deliberately ignore gameplay issues and bugs. Honestly, I don't think the care because it doesn't effect their bottom dollar and ability to sell packs or stubs.
I do believe there's a lot of cheaters in the top ranks. Just as many if not more than in the lower ranks.
If your devs don't give a [censored] about the game it's easier to mod and hack.I'm NOT saying this is 100% and I would die on this hill in just saying it's rather probable of a case for this game.
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@JDHalfrack it's also not as popular or funded as a game like CoD or Siege. And if you've played dead games before hacking is VERY prevalent. Ask any dedicated Division player. My God that game was the WORST. Devs didn't give two shits forever about the hacking problem.
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Not top players with smush accounts lol that would never happen eye roll…
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@jaychvz Haven't you heard? Top guys are snorting Adderall 15 minutes before warmups. SDS better start drug testing these guys.
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Some of these players also block any user that is high in the leaderboard making sure they never play them.
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It’s probably because the matchmaking in this game is dogshit and they get matched with me. (Someone who can’t win unless my opponent dc’s)
Which is probably a product of less people playing the game overall, because it’s dogshit.
I wish I wasn’t addicted to collecting things (in this case, cards) because I’d just quit.
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@hollywood3183 Yeah I agree. Thankfully you can get most good stuff just playing. But the matchmaking is terrible. I turned off crossplay and that helped a bit. Xbox has a huge advantage over ps5 I personally feel (I'm on a ps5). I also am on wifi and I heard that is bad. I at least have a 120 hz monitor with gaming mode though. That helped a bunch switching from my big tv to the smaller faster monitor.