This Is Not A Serious Game
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I'm gonna [censored] and moan, but I can't take the arbitrary nature of this hitting engine any more. I know the content is lame and boring, but we HAVE to get back to user input meaning SOMETHING. I cannot for the life of me figure out what determines how the ball comes off the bat at this point. Early swing and under the ball? 400 foot no-doubt HR. Good swing timing with the ball fully in the PCI? 88mph flyout.
Just lost a DD game 5-3. Here's some notes:
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He had 5 hard hit balls the ENTIRE game...magically 4 of them were HRs with one of them coming after a rolled over ground ball through the hole. So he had 5 runs off the back of a total of 5 hard hit balls
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He struck out EIGHTEEN TIMES to my 8 times
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I had about as many hard hit balls for outs as he had hard hit balls total
This game is literally determined by who can arbitrarily get the most of their hard hit balls to be HRs and who can arbitrarily get the most of their terrible swings to be foul balls instead of weak outs. If someone can come on here and tell me how skill determines why one person's 100mph line drive is an out and why one person's is a HR or can tell me what determines if a "very late" swing on an inside fastball is a foul ball or a popup, I'm all ears. But it seems to me that arbitrary outcomes have more of factor in determining who wins games than actual input. And that is asinine for online competitive gameplay.
Just save us all the trouble and turn every at bat into a coin flip simulator and decide the winner that way. It'll take less time and save us all the trouble of pretending like skill is at all the largest determining factor in who wins, because it's becoming more and more obvious that it's not.
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The show has been lacking since 2019. It seems they no longer prioritize genuine skills or fair competition, instead focusing on extracting money. This trend among developers is troubling, as it fosters a culture where mediocrity is celebrated over genuine achievement. By promoting weakness as strength, they risk undermining the fabric of society while other nations grow stronger.
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I understand certain game modes being this way...but if there's ONE place where user input reigns supreme, it should be online ranked.
But you're right about the extracting money. As long as they hit their quarterly goals, nothing will change. They're a business after all, so their idea of "success" is hitting those monetary goals, not creating a game that a certain percentage of people like. So if people keep buying stubs, and they can create an RNG-fueled game experience that leads to casual players sticking around and playing more, they'll keep doing it.
I understand it - it just sucks
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If they are trying to make skill matter less why the big nerf to pulse this year. I feel timing was also nerfed, but thats less certain.
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Did I miss something. Do you have to win games 100% by out-hard-hitting and less-getting-struck-out?
And no, 1 game does not proof anything … I lost some games, where I thought I should have won … but most often, 95% of the time … my opponent had either the right hits at the right time, pitched better when he had to and/or was simply better than me. Either way, these threads are somehow annoying -
@xIAmJumpMan23x I noticed you didn't come here to complain about the game you had the other day in which you scored 12 runs on 16 hits?
How was the hitting engine working that game?
Edit, your opponent didn't come here to complain about "hard hit outs" either. Weird.
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@BJDUBBYAH
You dont get it do you. When i win it its my skills when i lose the game screwed me.
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Most people don't understand your point because they're average. However, if you're skilled, you'd prefer to lose only to players who performed better than you, not to mediocre players just because the game predetermined the winner.
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@YOSHI24
You sound like a mediocre player
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@xIAmJumpMan23x NGL i feel like you just described a major league baseball game. walks and home runs tend to determine the game.
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@chekua
He’s just one of SDS’s knight in shining armor. If there is anything negative posted towards SDS he’s always gotta chime in defending them. Just look at his post history.
I swear SDS employs these guys from the way they defend this game like their life (or in this case career) is on the line.
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Its simple. Casuals dominate the focus. If you just pick up this game and want to play if you play games and can't hit you're going to go play elsewhere. So you have to reward them. Look at the proof, how many times do people dashboard after 1 home run? So SDS does what it can to pull everyone in, its great for the casuals, its bad for full timers who have been playing for years.
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@LIONED-33 said in This Is Not A Serious Game:
Its simple. Casuals dominate the focus. If you just pick up this game and want to play if you play games and can't hit you're going to go play elsewhere. So you have to reward them. Look at the proof, how many times do people dashboard after 1 home run? So SDS does what it can to pull everyone in, its great for the casuals, its bad for full timers who have been playing for years.
This is probably far closer to the truth than any of us want to admit.
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In the words of the GREAT Ron Polk, "That's Baseball"!
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I’m sick of full green perfect release off the plate pitches getting mashed for homers.
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Now, this doesn't apply to the game but: Last year on Baseball Tonight it was said that a home run is a mistake. A perfect/perfect in the real world would be a hard-hit line out to the center fielder. To hit a homer you have to add lift (non flat swing) or get there before the ball does (at least by a little bit).
The whole perfect/perfect thing is really, based on physics, a scam.
to hit homer you need to get there just a little under (depending on the swing) and little early or late for shorter fences.
Now this doesn't apply to a game where all that matters are inputs based on location and timing. I figure it evens out for me where I get homers with less-than-ideal timing and placement, but I also get plenty of perfect/perfect outs.
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@chekua … which would lead to what special conclusion??? Just asking
(sometimes I am wondering how bad response can only get … but this was already a classic on how to discuss the right way )EDIT: But I am trying … So your answer is: Yes, the win has to go to the one who out-hard-hit the opponent and has less strikeouts? If yes, then maybe I do not know enough about the sport and should stick to soccer
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@YOSHI24
You like the game, fine. Not everyone agrees with you, and that's ok. The year's game is what it is, and someone's opinion is not going to change that. However, maybe the constructive input can be used to improve future installments. -
@YOSHI24
If it were about ability, the input, in this case the timing and the person's reaction, determine their ability. A person who strikes out too much, and whose timing indicates they are consistently late or early, clearly demonstrates their lack of ability or level of play. So, why should someone who clearly demonstrates their inability be considered better?
If it doesn't give you clear response then go to the doctor please.
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@YOSHI24
I have lost against players who are not onlyvery bad at batting, but their pitching technique is even worse. They don't mix up their pitches. They don't change speed, they don't aim for the corners, so they don't strike out my batters because it's easy to decipher their pitching. And because I'm not rewarded for my skills, most games are close and end up being decided in the final innings, often due to an error caused by the CPU itself.
They want to prevent bad players from quitting, but now it's the good players who feel like quitting due to the frustration caused by the game itself? No way, that's why I don't play regularly anymore and I don't even buy these games until they have a 75% discount.
I'm not giving my money away for this game anymore. I hope MVP makes a come back.
