Is skill becoming less relevant?
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@douevenbench said in Is skill becoming less relevant?:
High elevation stadiums and strike zone hitting cams destroyed online play.
Strike Zone cams and High elevation stadiums have been a thing since 17.....
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@chucky97___ correct. Online play has been destroyed since then.
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@douevenbench said in Is skill becoming less relevant?:
@chucky97___ correct. Online play has been destroyed since then.
Online play became way more popular since then, strike zone cameras have always been a thing.
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@chucky97___ and I’m glad you don’t come to forum to complain, grip n rip bud.
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@chucky97___ that’s absolutely untrue. Directional is a disadvantage on Hall of Fame and Legend. Go watch some of the streams out there you’ll find a ton of people using directional. But again I don’t care if people use it or not. The issue is the foul balls. Go play an event game and use directional. See how many foul balls you get. Then go use pci.
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@LIONED-33 what?? 'm saying no one is using directional over zone.
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@chucky97___ i think we are agreeing with each other here lol. I get it, to the people that know...we are not using directional over zone. i 10000% agree...however, there are people out there that are not worried about competing higher than Events who do use directional. and just foul ball foul ball foul ball foul ball, hit, rinse repeat. I'm not saying they are even winning games, i'm just saying its annoying and adds time on games that doesnt need to be there.
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@LIONED-33 Lol, I'd say thats just the outer PCI over directional
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@BJDUBBYAH said in Is skill becoming less relevant?:
You also struck out 5 times to your opponents 1, but conveniently left that part of the “skill” discussion out.
Sorry you lost a game. By 2 runs. Don’t blame it on RNG.
I just lost a game where my opponent struck out eighteen times to my 8 times. He had 5 hard hit balls the ENTIRE game and scored 5 runs to beat me 5-3. A strikeout difference of 4 doesn't discount the OPs point.
Maybe if we listened to people's complaints/points of view instead of trying to immediately troll them we'd get somewhere...
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@xIAmJumpMan23x Well, if your opponent scored more runs than you, how is that the games fault and not yours?
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@BJDUBBYAH I'm not saying "it's the game's fault." I'm saying if you're going to use a strikeout differential of 4 to discount OPs original point, then I have a similar example where the strikeout differential was 333% the OTHER direction. It shows, to OP's point, that user input is too often secondary to random RNG in determining the outcome of at-bats.
Instead of using a minimal strikeout differential to discount the OP's point for no reason, maybe add something constructive...or just sit this one out
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@xIAmJumpMan23x Turn those K's into hits and you've got yourself a win partner
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@chucky97___ said in Is skill becoming less relevant?:
@LIONED-33 Lol, I'd say thats just the outer PCI over directional
I think the people that complain about directional don't actually use it
foul ball foul ball foul ball foul ball, hit, rinse repeat
You missed the 'whiff on good timing in the strike zone' or 'weak groundball on a well timed curveball'
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@BJDUBBYAH But that's what we're saying...we don't have nearly enough control over if those balls we put into play ARE hits. For my example, I put significantly more balls into play than my opponent. I hit more balls hard than my opponent. I just was not arbitrarily rewarded with as many HRs. We're literally saying we don't have enough control over if what we hit hard becomes a hit.
Like...I don't know if you're being purposefully dense because being a troll is your identity and it's weirdly how you get your jollies. Or if you're an actual moron that doesn't understand what we're trying to say. Either way, you're essentially the dog [censored] on the bottom of the shoe of this conversation.
You stink
You add nothing
And most of us want to just scrape you off and move on...partner -
@xIAmJumpMan23x Let's take a deep dive into your game log
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@BJDUBBYAH Go for it dude! I've only talked about one game and you won't find any evidence from that game that's any different from what I've claimed.
And you can look at 1000 games from before that and nothing in there that is good, bad, ugly, or anything else applies to the theoretical nature of what me or the OP is talking about.
You can be good at the game; you can be bad at the game; you can be that guy that has 300 freakin wins already. We're talking about the theory of how the hitting engine works and the arbitrary nature of hitting outcomes. Our individual skill does nothing to change that.
But then again I don't expect you to understand that or understand the nature of anecdotal evidence and how it doesn't apply to something like this...
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@xIAmJumpMan23x You see, neither you, or OP are giving your opponents any credit. Your opponent is rated 820 this Ranked season, 17-7 record and 37-13 for the year. Definitely a solid player. 2009 rank on the year to your 16409.
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@xIAmJumpMan23x Striking out chasing a pitch in the dirt with a runner in scoring position, is an outcome determined by you, and your opponent, who beat you in that situation. The game did not determine the outcome there.
That's my whole problem with folks like you and the OP, you're laser focused on the wrong outcomes, and not willing to accept that you come up short in clutch situations, and that determined the overall outcome of the game.
You got beat by a better player.
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@BJDUBBYAH Ok...but my opponent's record does nothing to change literally anything I've said. He can be 17-7. He can be 117-7. Or he can be 7-117. It changes absolutely nothing about how my game with him played out. Regardless of his record, he still struck out 18 times to my 8 times. He still only hit 5 balls hard. He still arbitrarily got rewarded with HRs on an insane 80% of the balls he hit hard.
The only way his record, or how good he is, plays a role in ANY of that, is if you're claiming that the better your record is, the more likely you are to have the balls you hit hard be HRs...which would be asinine.
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@xIAmJumpMan23x Insulting people on a community forum doesn't change anything either. You lost. You struck out in clutch situations. Cry all you want about hard hit outs, that's not why you lost. You chased pitches and got beat.
