Market talk
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Trout could start the year as a gold 84 and still be 200,000.
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@go4stros25_PSN This is the first year I'm not rushing to complete the collection, for many of the reasons you mentioned. I haven't flipped at all this year. I know we're only a few weeks in, but I'm not interested in working too hard for the one reward I'm interested in (Ruth).
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@PAinPA last year was multiplatform and he was selling for over 300k at this time.
Unless I'm remembering wrong.
I'll also add that last year the collection was Derek Jeter
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I would say, essentially, less need for Stubb's. the more there are cards that people want to buy with Stubb's, the more valuable the Stubb's are. they made a point to have lesser cards for sale, at least early. they will fluctuate with releases and collections as the season progresses. having Babe, Palmero and Pedro will become essential eventually and the LS collection will rise. they'll have stubb sale and the prices will go down.
haven't been able to flip like years back, which is a bummer, but also these supercharged cards create a bit of movement. I've started stocking up on guys I think will go up in base value.
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It seems like the live series collection rewards aren't worth it for the reasons you described. Babe is cool but not that exciting because he's slow and not great in the field. Plenty of guys will slot into his position and hit nearly as well as him on All-Star and below with captain boosts, especially if the juiced exit velos persist throughout the year.
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Prior to this year, last year was the cheapest in my time to complete the LS collection. Around this time you could complete it for about 1.4-1.5M. Trout stayed in the mid 250K range for most of the early months. Oddly enough, the year they opened it up to Xbox was the year he was his highest that I'd ever seen consistently over 400K for most of the early months.
This year if argue the collection costs more than last year simply on the value of value returned. Previous years you had the 6 divisional collection players giving you an additional 6 top rated player - esp if it was a solid pitcher which is usually lacking early in the game cycle. This year without those additional 6 highly rated players the collection "looks cheaper" but costs more on the basis of returned value.
I'd had the stubs for almost two weeks now to complete the collection and I'm actually only 600K away from completing it yet really have no desire to do so. I keep hoping to pull enough decent diamonds in free packs that it lowers my cost to complete. Previous years I'd would have it done within 7-10 days. That should tell you something
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It’s the live series collection rewards, I know I’m not in any hurry to complete it.
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@BJDUBBYAH said in Market talk:
It’s the live series collection rewards, I know I’m not in any hurry to complete it.
Same, I just need the gatekeepers now. Those will come from packs etc throughout the year...as flipping has all but been nerfed...even though its still possible.
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@aaronjw76 same here. I have around 750k stubs, trout, Alvarez, strider, and a bunch of the 85-88 diamonds, but just can't pull the trigger on the collection. Glad it's not just me.
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@Sarge1387 flipping is so boring these days. I do it, because stubs, but I hate it.
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Getting 90 diamonds are easier than ever from other areas than standard packs. In BR you only need 10 wins to get 87+ live card. The big one is those Vault packs that are in the shop and everyone gets at reaching Ranked 700. Many times they 90+ cards in them and you can choose two cards.
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@go4stros25 said in Market talk:
@Sarge1387 because stubs
This is exactly the reason why SDS hates people doing it.
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@Sarge1387 what can they do tho, remove the market? I'm sure the suits wish they could lol. The game gets closer and closer to pay to win every year. Well, not pay to win, but pay to have the best cards. Eventually it will be madden and I will move on to franchise.
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@go4stros25 said in Market talk:
@Sarge1387 what can they do tho, remove the market? I'm sure the suits wish they could lol. The game gets closer and closer to pay to win every year. Well, not pay to win, but pay to have the best cards. Eventually it will be madden and I will move on to franchise.
You're not wrong. There's been a growing belief in the last couple iterations that SDS has bots that jump buy and sell bids in order to keep the profit margins as small as possible if not non existent.
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I need like 8 teams to finish the collection. I'm in no rush. Babe and Pedro isn't really worth it. As for Raphy, I rather have 89 Votto at 1st, personally.
I've given Babe 5 chances in BR. He pitches ok, hate that fk'n 1920's windmill wind-up, but his swing is not that good. I've seen the top streamers complain about how awful he is.
Me personally, I'm hitting over .300 in BR with him, but May's is literally 10x better and more fun to use. Same with J Roll.
Babe is a liability in the field, he's slow, and not as desirable as other ppl in the past.SDS literally got nothing right in the direction they've decided to go this year with practically every fk'n executive decision they've made.
- Water down LS collection rewards
- Micro manage/control when ppl can get to the 99 rated cards
- Implement a ridiculous fk'n bs ritarded XP cap. Then (((TELL US))) THE MUTHA FLUCKING PEOPLE WHO BUY THEIR FK'N GAME TO,,,,,, WAIT FOR IT,,,,, WAIT FOR IT,,,, "In the most mocking childish sds impersonating voice: hey guys, experience isn't everything, why can't you just play the game for FUN! My facial and bodily response
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My actual response, get these fools off the team. They are clueless and should be fired for their incompetence. - While choosing to cater to the offline casuals, they still couldn't get that right. The overall content/rewards, progression etc is lacking. There simply is not enough.
- The XP path is the ((((WORST)))) IT'S EVER BEEN! Deliberately putting the 99's at 1 mil xp, making us wait 2 months to unlock them for a week, and making literally every card except for 2-3 cards actually competitive should literally result in firing those responsible. YOU SUCK AT YOUR JOB, AND YOU ARE AN IDIOT. GO DEVELOP A CLUE BC YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
- Let's see, what else. Hmm,, oh I know! Let's turn this game into a FK'N GAMBLING CASH GRAB!! Let'a put in 40k packs!! And water down the cards attributes! And purposely not let any of the good ones to be applied to the buxton/arenado boost! Also let's throw the team captains in the store at 25k! And only allow ppl to earn (((FK'N 4))) 4 OF THEM!!?? WAIT,, WHAAAAAT?!?! Funny thing is, I would have eventually bought Ashburn's weak kid cheeks card just to have fun with an all Phil's team. But then they removed the packs. I'm actually hoping they put the captains in the next TA for EVERYONE to get for FREE! These are not top meta cards except for maybe 4 cards, and that's only for right now.
Ok I'm done ranting. Time to go in events and hit 500 ft cockshots off ppl who at least try to compete.
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@Shauwn this,
Except I am an offline player most of the time. I like earning the cards and then using them. I play mini seasons and watch YouTube at the same time, great way to unwind after work.
But oh no, we gotta nerf that too because people are exploiting it.The only thing I kind of like that they did this year was ranked seasons. I usually won't make world series but the program is nor impossible this year so I have played much more than in previous years. Also having a mid-season drop for content and having a repeatable mission makes it seem like i could finish it.
Other than that, pretty much everything else they fumbled on.
I did take the surveys last year and wanted 99s at launch to go away. However, no one and I mean NO ONE asked for an xp cap.
This is just a way for them to be lazy and release less stuff.
I wouldn't care about finishing the program with 50 days to go, because they have the repeat stuff at the end. But now, no one is going to get there because of this gatekeeping BS. -
@captainwesker12 said in Market talk:
@Shauwn this,
Except I am an offline player most of the time. I like earning the cards and then using them. I play mini seasons and watch YouTube at the same time, great way to unwind after work.
But oh no, we gotta nerf that too because people are exploiting it.
The only thing I kind of like that they did this year was ranked seasons. I usually won't make world series but the program is nor impossible this year so I have played much more than in previous years.
Other than that, pretty much everything else they fumbled on.
I did take the surveys last year and wanted 99s at launch to go away. However, no one and I mean NO ONE asked for an xp cap.
This is just a way for them to be lazy and release less stuff.
I wouldn't care about finishing the program with 50 days to go, because they have the repeat stuff at the end.- As I've said before, there is nothing, and I repeat NOTHING wrong with how people choose to play. I grind all the offline stuff, too! I enjoy earning stuff like everyone else! Saying anything about offline gamers would make me a hypocrite bc I grind it all as well. And you're right, there's nothing wrong with laying in your bed watching TV, eating a scooby doo sammich while casually grinding. I do it too!
- I also enjoy the ranked progression path! Ppl think I'm against it, but I'm really not! Why would I be against earning packs, stubs, xp, and cards just for playing? Lol. I actually enjoy it! But, I'd also like to see more rewards for those who reach WS. If I don't get to WS one month, it doesn't mean I won't wanna see who I could buy. If they are 200-300k, then so be it! I'll save up to buy and try them out!
- As someone who enjoyed all the 99's early, I will admit it was excessive and too much too soon! It didn't mean I preferred the decision they made. Limit the 99's to a small handful throughout the season. But don't make it impossible for us to get 3 until the season is practically over! Smfh! Dumb dumb idiotic decision!
- No need to comment on the xp cap. Everyone knows where I stand. I will speak up and as a loyal customer who supported and purchased this game since 2008 when I was a kid, I have a right to voice my opinion without others bashing or ridiculing my words! (((THE DAILY XP CAP IS THE WORST DECISION THIS COMPANY HAS EVER MADE, PERIOD!))) That's my opinion and I'm entitled to give it whether ppl agree or not!
- Exactly! Finishing the program early still means you can spin that wheel like last yr in hopes of getting some nice rewards. GL getting to the wheel this yr! If u do, it will likely be once, unless SDS wakes up and gives us much more xp opportunities!
In conclusion, I don't believe SDS purposely tried to be lazy by not releasing more stuff. I believe the team literally figured the content currently in game was actually enough.
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@captainwesker12 said in Market talk:
@Shauwn this,
Except I am an offline player most of the time. I like earning the cards and then using them. I play mini seasons and watch YouTube at the same time, great way to unwind after work.
But oh no, we gotta nerf that too because people are exploiting it.Other than that, pretty much everything else they fumbled on.
I did take the surveys last year and wanted 99s at launch to go away. However, no one and I mean NO ONE asked for an xp cap.
This is just a way for them to be lazy and release less stuff.
I wouldn't care about finishing the program with 50 days to go, because they have the repeat stuff at the end. But now, no one is going to get there because of this gatekeeping BS.Hit the nail on the head here. Especially the bolded bits. I also don't think they truly know what an exploit is...to me gaining the XP from running through MS multiple times is just, and I'm spitballing here(no pun intended), playing the F***in' game! We wouldn't have to do that if they didn't slash gameplay XP in half for no reason. I also did those surveys, and I don't remember asking for a cap or halved xp payouts...in fact I asked for more sellable rewards and higher XP like 4x the xp weekends or something.
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@Sarge1387 said in Market talk:
@captainwesker12 said in Market talk:
@Shauwn this,
Except I am an offline player most of the time. I like earning the cards and then using them. I play mini seasons and watch YouTube at the same time, great way to unwind after work.
But oh no, we gotta nerf that too because people are exploiting it.Other than that, pretty much everything else they fumbled on.
I did take the surveys last year and wanted 99s at launch to go away. However, no one and I mean NO ONE asked for an xp cap.
This is just a way for them to be lazy and release less stuff.
I wouldn't care about finishing the program with 50 days to go, because they have the repeat stuff at the end. But now, no one is going to get there because of this gatekeeping BS.Hit the nail on the head here. Especially the bolded bits. I also don't think they truly know what an exploit is...to me gaining the XP from running through MS multiple times is just, and I'm spitballing here(no pun intended), playing the F***in' game! We wouldn't have to do that if they didn't slash gameplay XP in half for no reason. I also did those surveys, and I don't remember asking for a cap or halved xp payouts...in fact I asked for more sellable rewards and higher XP like 4x the xp weekends or something.
The XP cap specifically screws players like me. I can’t play every single day. But on days I can play, I can grind for a while. The last 2 Saturdays, I hit my XP cap well before I was done playing. I’ve maxed out both events this far, maxed out ranked reward path, maxed out all other programs, and maxed out TA. Yet, I just got to Soriano on Sunday evening. There should be a max XP that you can be at each day, instead of capping how much you can get in a day. For example, the game has been out for around 18 days. If they allow 35k XP per day, the cap right now should be 630k. If I’m at 500k XP, they shouldn’t cap me at 35k XP today, they should let me earn XP until I get up to the 630k XP cap. Then tomorrow we can get up to 665k, and so forth.
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Yeah … another thread about the whining xp-cap-players who only play the game to earn xp
But btt, I think this thread is about market (at least the thread title sounds like that)… Trout is higher because he fits the buxton-team and has more value being a position player
