Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take
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@TripleH-4481_PSN said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
Playing video games should not be work unless you are playing for money in a competitive tournament. Using the work for it argument is laughable because most of us aren’t playing to work we are playing to zone out and relax. The argument is a no win situation because the get good competitive crowd will never understand the casual player crowd and vice versa. Personally I reserve my competitive side for real life but if games are your thing there is no judgement on my side and I’m not being sarcastic. To each their own.
Yep, thanks. He is right in a way, like I put in my post. But like you, I don't want to have to "work for it" to get 90 OVR cards. I will "work for it" in RS, Events, or BR. They're different things...
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I’ve been playing DD for 3 years now. Each year my goal is to complete all Collections, not collect all cards. I’m offline only and I honestly don’t see how I’m going to finish. I’m OK grinding and I’m OK not finishing until December. Again, I just don’t see how I’m going to finish. And that’s disappointing.
In ‘21, it seemed every time I did “ something” in DD, I got a card for a Collection. That doesn’t happen this year. Every time I took a stronghold in Conquest, I got a pack of something. That is no longer the case. I seem to play many nights this year and at the end, I have little in DD to show for it.
IMO, they’ve made Conquest more difficult, they’ve made vs CPU more difficult. Same with Moments(if that’s possible). Just about every aspect of the offline experience is less “relaxing” and more difficult.
To get a couple of Easter Eggs, I played two Event games and a Ranked game. I got a bunch of something’s for Collections then!
I’ve said this before, SDS is nudging/encouraging us to play online. I’m not sure why.
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To add, they’ve admitted they made Showdowns more difficult this year, by lowering the difficulty on the Charisma program.
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@capardo_XBL said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
I’ve been playing DD for 3 years now. Each year my goal is to complete all Collections, not collect all cards. I’m offline only and I honestly don’t see how I’m going to finish. I’m OK grinding and I’m OK not finishing until December. Again, I just don’t see how I’m going to finish. And that’s disappointing.
In ‘21, it seemed every time I did “ something” in DD, I got a card for a Collection. That doesn’t happen this year. Every time I took a stronghold in Conquest, I got a pack of something. That is no longer the case. I seem to play many nights this year and at the end, I have little in DD to show for it.
IMO, they’ve made Conquest more difficult, they’ve made vs CPU more difficult. Same with Moments(if that’s possible). Just about every aspect of the offline experience is less “relaxing” and more difficult.
To get a couple of Easter Eggs, I played two Event games and a Ranked game. I got a bunch of something’s for Collections then!
I’ve said this before, SDS is nudging/encouraging us to play online. I’m not sure why.
I agree with a lot of what you said, but I feel the nudging is more to offline. Every program is designed around showdown, conquest and pxp missions with cards that most people don’t want to use online. You can’t complete programs without spending hours offline and there are programs non stop.
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Playing any random MLB cpu team they will be filled with silvers mainly, some golds and maybe a diamond or two. You can have a 99 pitcher going to battle with a low silver cpu player. 48 contact 57 power bots should not beable to turn into a Barry Bonds plate appearance.
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Yeah, I’m gonna add something else. Sorry for the long rants today…
This just adds to the “I seem to be grinding for little in return”…..
I am at 191k in the Season 2 XP Reward path. That is more than 1/4 of the programs 650k. (Yes, there is the bonus wheel, I get that).
I have ONE collection card from this season. ONE. Just got an Incognito card. Everything prior to that is just about useless, frankly.
Way too much grind for way too little rewards, IMO.
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@Oreo-Thomas_XBL said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
@Pergo_MLBTS said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
To each their own and all, but I don't get how so many people play on rookie so much to just mindlessly pad stats. It sounds so boring. I'm not that great or anything, but I always play the CPU on All-Star and am still having fun playing. Based on the forum, it seems like most people that play this game complain about how much they hate grinding. Maybe try just actually playing on a legit difficulty level and having fun rather then playing on rookie in a fake stadium with 200 foot walls and expecting every hit to be a homer.
This exactly. I’m a little above average but play almost all games against cpu on legend, HOF once in awhile. I will never understand the mindless hours of winning 25-0 in 3 inning rookie games. I can usually complete the tasks
Pretty quickly and with at least a little challenge and excitement on the higher levels.I can guarantee the people playing on rookie are completing required tasks FAR quicker than those playing on AS and above.
Players complained about having mission completion partially tied to online stats so they went to a totally offline format but made them incredibly long.
Personally, I would like to see a return to the old format with online stats being required coupled with a shortening of the programs.
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@SuntLacrimae50_MLBTS said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
@HustlinOwl_MLBTS said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
Lol major misses aka I can’t win 50-0
Lol, the douchebag troll is back! Only plays online ranked, but really primarily plays forum troll.
No, douche, that wasn't my argument. No gold star for you today.
Now go back to your corner and continue to whine about how you can't select different uniforms in your little part of the universe.
Lol struck a nerve huh
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@HustlinOwl_MLBTS said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
@SuntLacrimae50_MLBTS said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
@HustlinOwl_MLBTS said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
Lol major misses aka I can’t win 50-0
Lol, the douchebag troll is back! Only plays online ranked, but really primarily plays forum troll.
No, douche, that wasn't my argument. No gold star for you today.
Now go back to your corner and continue to whine about how you can't select different uniforms in your little part of the universe.
Lol struck a nerve huh
Not at all! You do you. It's entertaining to have a crusty old troll in the neighborhood bitching about what other people are doing as he sits on his lawn sipping his gruel.
Carry on, my friend.
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To get pxp after doing moments to complete these stupid things I play the As on rookie and let me tell ya it's pretty mindless lol.
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OP, agree with all your points, especially the rookie mode and line outs.
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@Pergo_MLBTS said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
To each their own and all, but I don't get how so many people play on rookie so much to just mindlessly pad stats. It sounds so boring. I'm not that great or anything, but I always play the CPU on All-Star and am still having fun playing. Based on the forum, it seems like most people that play this game complain about how much they hate grinding. Maybe try just actually playing on a legit difficulty level and having fun rather then playing on rookie in a fake stadium with 200 foot walls and expecting every hit to be a homer.
Sometimes the game forces you to play on rookie, like in moments or showdowns.
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@ImDFC_PSN said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
@Pergo_MLBTS said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
To each their own and all, but I don't get how so many people play on rookie so much to just mindlessly pad stats. It sounds so boring. I'm not that great or anything, but I always play the CPU on All-Star and am still having fun playing. Based on the forum, it seems like most people that play this game complain about how much they hate grinding. Maybe try just actually playing on a legit difficulty level and having fun rather then playing on rookie in a fake stadium with 200 foot walls and expecting every hit to be a homer.
Sometimes the game forces you to play on rookie, like in moments or showdowns.
Right, I'm aware. That's why I said "but I always play the CPU on All-Star". Meaning Conquest or play vs CPU games when trying to get PXP.
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Ggggggggggg
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Except this isn’t real baseball it’s a video game that is supposed to reward decent input. I get the balance between simulation and arcade but the randomness makes it feel like zone should be eliminated and we just use timing or directional and get what we get. I know that no perfect balance exists but the game far too often rewards bad input and punishes good input in the name of simulation. The great players are able to overcome the nuances of the game where for average players it’s generally the difference between success and failure. I played baseball for almost 20 years and have watched it for 35 years. This game is at its best when it rewards players input and time put into the game with appropriate rewards. This years game is falling short in both regards and is the main reason on top of all the utter silliness and other cringe that long time players are extremely frustrated and disappointed.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
Except this isn’t real baseball it’s a video game that is supposed to reward decent input. I get the balance between simulation and arcade but the randomness makes it feel like zone should be eliminated and we just use timing or directional and get what we get. I know that no perfect balance exists but the game far too often rewards bad input and punishes good input in the name of simulation. The great players are able to overcome the nuances of the game where for average players it’s generally the difference between success and failure. I played baseball for almost 20 years and have watched it for 35 years. This game is at its best when it rewards players input and time put into the game with appropriate rewards. This years game is falling short in both regards and is the main reason on top of all the utter silliness and other cringe that long time players are extremely frustrated and disappointed.
So every Perfect-Perfect should be a no doubt HR?
You don’t think “decent input” isn’t rewarded??
I watch streamers play games on Legend that end 15-13 with almost every hit being a HR.
You typed a lot of words without actually saying much.
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@BrikMahorn_XBL said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
So every Perfect-Perfect should be a no doubt HR?
You don’t think “decent input” isn’t rewarded??
I watch streamers play games on Legend that end 15-13 with almost every hit being a HR.
You typed a lot of words without actually saying much.
I certainly respect your right to have a different opinion than mine.
I believe the game should lean more to the video game side with regards to perfect/perfect contact.
A no doubt homer every time? Nah. A hit of some sort? Yes, every time.
And a perfect/perfect in a Moment should satisfy the requirement if it’s a homer/XBH/4 bases, etc type moment. Every time.
My opinion.
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@capardo_XBL said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
@BrikMahorn_XBL said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
So every Perfect-Perfect should be a no doubt HR?
You don’t think “decent input” isn’t rewarded??
I watch streamers play games on Legend that end 15-13 with almost every hit being a HR.
You typed a lot of words without actually saying much.
I certainly respect your right to have a different opinion than mine.
I believe the game should lean more to the video game side with regards to perfect/perfect contact.
A no doubt homer every time? Nah. A hit of some sort? Yes, every time.
And a perfect/perfect in a Moment should satisfy the requirement if it’s a homer/XBH/4 bases, etc type moment. Every time.
My opinion.
So…player ratings are meaningless?
A low rated hitter hits a P-P vs a pitcher with a 95 HR/9…those ratings mean nothing?
P-P has to do with the type of contact you make. It has nothing to do with the result of that contact in the context of a baseball game.
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@BrikMahorn_XBL said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
@capardo_XBL said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
@BrikMahorn_XBL said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
So every Perfect-Perfect should be a no doubt HR?
You don’t think “decent input” isn’t rewarded??
I watch streamers play games on Legend that end 15-13 with almost every hit being a HR.
You typed a lot of words without actually saying much.
I certainly respect your right to have a different opinion than mine.
I believe the game should lean more to the video game side with regards to perfect/perfect contact.
A no doubt homer every time? Nah. A hit of some sort? Yes, every time.
And a perfect/perfect in a Moment should satisfy the requirement if it’s a homer/XBH/4 bases, etc type moment. Every time.
My opinion.
So…player ratings are meaningless?
A low rated hitter hits a P-P vs a pitcher with a 95 HR/9…those ratings mean nothing?
P-P has to do with the type of contact you make. It has nothing to do with the result of that contact in the context of a baseball game.
PP should not be guaranteed hits, agreed. I have no problem with the % of outs.
What you should admit is that PP nukes with guys with over [fill in your number] power should ALWAYS go out. Can't tell you how many PP nukes with 125 power guys were caught on the warning track. [censored] horrible design decision.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN said in Major Misses by SDS in 23: A Show Lover's Take:
Except this isn’t real baseball it’s a video game that is supposed to reward decent input. I get the balance between simulation and arcade but the randomness makes it feel like zone should be eliminated and we just use timing or directional and get what we get. I know that no perfect balance exists but the game far too often rewards bad input and punishes good input in the name of simulation. The great players are able to overcome the nuances of the game where for average players it’s generally the difference between success and failure. I played baseball for almost 20 years and have watched it for 35 years. This game is at its best when it rewards players input and time put into the game with appropriate rewards. This years game is falling short in both regards and is the main reason on top of all the utter silliness and other cringe that long time players are extremely frustrated and disappointed.
It's a catch-22 for sure. Randomness is a huge part of baseball, and we love it. I don't think SDS can win with this one, honestly. That's why the original RBI Baseball will feel more satisfying but we'll still never go back to it.
One thing you said is so spot-on. The best players are able to overcome the randomness almost all the time. The rest of us get very frustrated by it because our instances of perfect input are much more rare.