SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.
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Now you certainly can not expect perfection without trial and error. I cant testify to how much anyone listens to whoand I have my peaves against the game also but I've seen change in areas where people had solid beefs and the evidence to back it up. I always wonder how much would i be complaining if my name were atop the leaderboard
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I just had to go to multiple extra innings to win a stronghold battle on All Star. It was ridiculous. The cpu pitching threw 45 out of 69 pitches entirely outside the zone, many WAY out.
That’s 65% balls.
Sorry. Simulation/realism or not, I just find this ridiculous.
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@eatyum_PSN said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
@TheHungryHole said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
@eatyum_PSN said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
No matter which speed they pick, they will make some group mad.
Would you be mad if they picked all-star? HoF? Gotta think about that competitive community, and the casuals, and can't afford to lose either.
this makes no sense - god you defend everything on this game
how about they do the sliders ONCE when the game launches - it shows confidence in the devs ability to make good decisions
let there be some sense of CONSISTENCY - OP is absolutely right
- I don't.
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Why does this make no sense? Are you saying if they chose all-star pitch speeds or HoF pitch speeds that it wouldn't alienate one side of the aisle?
who is saying about choosing a particular difficulty setting? they should make 1 game slider per year - each has its own respective levels and tiers of difficulty - no need to change sliders throughout the year - it shows a lack of confidence within the game devs
- I don't.
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@TheHungryHole said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
@eatyum_PSN said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
@TheHungryHole said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
@eatyum_PSN said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
No matter which speed they pick, they will make some group mad.
Would you be mad if they picked all-star? HoF? Gotta think about that competitive community, and the casuals, and can't afford to lose either.
this makes no sense - god you defend everything on this game
how about they do the sliders ONCE when the game launches - it shows confidence in the devs ability to make good decisions
let there be some sense of CONSISTENCY - OP is absolutely right
- I don't.
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/57052/al-east-and-central-legends-revealed/2
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56987/i-hate/10
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56732/the-94-mph-max-pitcher-challenge/40
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56634/this-game-is-sooooo-good/2
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56459/the-griffey-question-debate/2
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56323/fire-whoever-at-sds-made-the-decision-to-nerf-griffey/21
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56296/the-griffey-program-will-be-similar-to-the-jackie-program-in-20-hear-me-out/8
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56178/update-killed-hitting-once-again/12
Why does this make no sense? Are you saying if they chose all-star pitch speeds or HoF pitch speeds that it wouldn't alienate one side of the aisle?
who is saying about choosing a particular difficulty setting? they should make 1 game slider per year - each has its own respective levels and tiers of difficulty - no need to change sliders throughout the year - it shows a lack of confidence within the game devs
Read the title, last two words. Pitch speeds.
- I don't.
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@eatyum_PSN said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
@TheHungryHole said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
@eatyum_PSN said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
@TheHungryHole said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
@eatyum_PSN said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
No matter which speed they pick, they will make some group mad.
Would you be mad if they picked all-star? HoF? Gotta think about that competitive community, and the casuals, and can't afford to lose either.
this makes no sense - god you defend everything on this game
how about they do the sliders ONCE when the game launches - it shows confidence in the devs ability to make good decisions
let there be some sense of CONSISTENCY - OP is absolutely right
- I don't.
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/57052/al-east-and-central-legends-revealed/2
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56987/i-hate/10
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56732/the-94-mph-max-pitcher-challenge/40
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56634/this-game-is-sooooo-good/2
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56459/the-griffey-question-debate/2
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56323/fire-whoever-at-sds-made-the-decision-to-nerf-griffey/21
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56296/the-griffey-program-will-be-similar-to-the-jackie-program-in-20-hear-me-out/8
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56178/update-killed-hitting-once-again/12
Why does this make no sense? Are you saying if they chose all-star pitch speeds or HoF pitch speeds that it wouldn't alienate one side of the aisle?
who is saying about choosing a particular difficulty setting? they should make 1 game slider per year - each has its own respective levels and tiers of difficulty - no need to change sliders throughout the year - it shows a lack of confidence within the game devs
Read the title, last two words. Pitch speeds.
that all apples to what i'm saying - you are just not reading the words - let me repeat for you - and you can add "pitch speeds" to what i said to make you feel better on the verbiage -
1 game slider per year - each RS points group has its own respective levels and tiers of difficulty - no need to change sliders throughout the year - it shows a lack of confidence within the game devs
- I don't.
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@TheHungryHole said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
@eatyum_PSN said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
@TheHungryHole said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
@eatyum_PSN said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
@TheHungryHole said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
@eatyum_PSN said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
No matter which speed they pick, they will make some group mad.
Would you be mad if they picked all-star? HoF? Gotta think about that competitive community, and the casuals, and can't afford to lose either.
this makes no sense - god you defend everything on this game
how about they do the sliders ONCE when the game launches - it shows confidence in the devs ability to make good decisions
let there be some sense of CONSISTENCY - OP is absolutely right
- I don't.
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/57052/al-east-and-central-legends-revealed/2
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56987/i-hate/10
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56732/the-94-mph-max-pitcher-challenge/40
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56634/this-game-is-sooooo-good/2
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56459/the-griffey-question-debate/2
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56323/fire-whoever-at-sds-made-the-decision-to-nerf-griffey/21
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56296/the-griffey-program-will-be-similar-to-the-jackie-program-in-20-hear-me-out/8
https://forums.theshow.com/topic/56178/update-killed-hitting-once-again/12
Why does this make no sense? Are you saying if they chose all-star pitch speeds or HoF pitch speeds that it wouldn't alienate one side of the aisle?
who is saying about choosing a particular difficulty setting? they should make 1 game slider per year - each has its own respective levels and tiers of difficulty - no need to change sliders throughout the year - it shows a lack of confidence within the game devs
Read the title, last two words. Pitch speeds.
that all apples to what i'm saying - you are just not reading the words - let me repeat for you - and you can add "pitch speeds" to what i said to make you feel better on the verbiage -
1 game slider per year - each has its own respective levels and tiers of difficulty - no need to change sliders throughout the year - it shows a lack of confidence within the game devs
The OP is advocating for SDS to stop changing pitch speeds. That means picking one speed, whether it be all-star, HOF etc.
It has nothing to do with sliders, yes SDS messes with the sliders, but they don't change the pitch speeds with the sliders, all-star is just as slow/fast as it was on release day. Therefore the only logical conclusion to the OP saying quit changing pitch speeds is saying there should be only one pitch speed
- I don't.
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That's not true. All star is very much different depending on the mode. Events at all star difficulty are often different as well depending on how they have adjusted the sliders. If you look at the sliders in the settings, you will see that pitch speed is one of them.
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What Josh said.
Obviously it’s pretty tough to please everyone, but with universal pitch speeds, in other words, Muñoz throwing 103 is the same 103 in every mode and difficulty, players have a chance to get better.
It’s hard enough to make an adjustment from being on that fastball to being on the slider, but THAT is baseball.
Constantly adjusting when you’re very early on the fastball in one mode, but can’t touch it in another mode, is NOT baseball imo.
I understand this is a video game.
While I’m at it, it has been a full season of universal DH, and we still have pitchers hitting in DD.
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@halfbutt_PSN said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
What Josh said.
Obviously it’s pretty tough to please everyone, but with universal pitch speeds, in other words, Muñoz throwing 103 is the same 103 in every mode and difficulty, players have a chance to get better.
It’s hard enough to make an adjustment from being on that fastball to being on the slider, but THAT is baseball.
Constantly adjusting when you’re very early on the fastball in one mode, but can’t touch it in another mode, is NOT baseball imo.
I understand this is a video game.
While I’m at it, it has been a full season of universal DH, and we still have pitchers hitting in DD.
And put like that it sounds practical and sensible. But it's not, why would SDS make one side mad when they can stay status quo? If they picked a speed, it would be all-star not hof and then you have the streamers/YouTubers all up in arms. HoF is to fast for some older folks, people who don't use monitors, casual etc.
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Your point is a very practical one, Eatyum. My optimistic take on this is that something closer to HOF pitch speed across the board would initially upset the under 700 players.
That said, over time, players can adjust if the speeds remain constant. There would no doubt still be different PCI sizes, which is not a terrible thing, imo.
It’s kind of a moot point, because unfortunately, your take about SDS trying to please everyone is probably accurate.
I DO think it would be a better game though with a universal pitch speed, and the only adjustment required being from pitcher to pitcher, like in the MLB.
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I’ve been lobbying for this for a long time. I want one universal pitch speed. Change the pci according to difficulty, but for the love of god……..one pitch speed! I don’t care which they choose.
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@mjfc_363_PSN said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
I’ve been lobbying for this for a long time. I want one universal pitch speed. Change the pci according to difficulty, but for the love of god……..one pitch speed! I don’t care which they choose.
Hear Hear!
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@BANGyourSOUL_XBL said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
A real sport doesn’t Fn change. An Esport should not either. Shooting game esports don’t F with the GD settings all the FN time so SDS shouldn’t either.
For the love of all that is holy stop. Maybe if you went with one set of pitch speeds, timing windows, pci sizes you could produce a halfway decent product where the mechanics were close to being legitimate.
Dumb human beings running stuff they shouldn’t be.
Esports change all the time. Heck they are still releasing balancing patches for StarCraft 1 for Pete’s sake. Which would “change the sliders” as you put it. Almost any game that is played online modifies the game during its play cycle.
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I'd prefer HOF pitch speeds to be universal. Just change the pci size and slightly increase the timing window for lower difficulties.
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You know, after playing a bunch of franchise mode today, it seems pretty clear to me that the manipulation of pitch speeds is programmed into the game for a reason.
As much as we, the players, may want consistency in gameplay, I don’t believe that is in the interest of SDS.
Disappointing.
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@halfbutt_PSN said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
You know, after playing a bunch of franchise mode today, it seems pretty clear to me that the manipulation of pitch speeds is programmed into the game for a reason.
As much as we, the players, may want consistency in gameplay, I don’t believe that is in the interest of SDS.
Disappointing.
I’m so confused by this thread and the responses
What are you guys saying you want changed?
You want Rookie to be the same speed as all star, HOF and legend?
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Difficuly on any setting does not matter online especially in Ranked Season where laws of physics and nature do not apply half the time and the other half you spend with your pockets turned inside out reading you have been disconnected from the Shooooo online or your looking like a Looney Toons donkey while your freeze glitched with a 6 run lead.Its the Adams Family Christmas and Santa vrs the flying saucers production team.
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I want consistency as far as rookie, veteran, all-star, HOF, & Legend are the same in every mode. All-star in a showdown shouldn't be different than vs. Cpu or online. I want consistency on the sliders. Moments shouldn't be made more difficult by adjusting the sliders. If they want it harder, change it to all-star, hof, or legend. I don't think a universal pitch speed is a good idea. It would make too many people unhappy. Personally I would like it but only because I am older and my reaction times are getting worse by the year. I used to make World Series but just can't compete online anymore as the pitch speeds are too fast for me now.
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@joshdcarr25 said in SDS Quit Changing Difficulties, Sliders, Pitch Speeds.:
That's not true. All star is very much different depending on the mode. Events at all star difficulty are often different as well depending on how they have adjusted the sliders. If you look at the sliders in the settings, you will see that pitch speed is one of them.
exactly mate
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