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  • H TOWN713 X1HQX_XBLH Offline
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    I don’t get it if your good at zone hitting and you go up against a time hitter shouldn’t you win the majority of those games? Time hitting your relying on RNG where zone it’s all user skill input.

    I okay timing cause I’m not good enough to hit with zone. When I okay online I get crushed by people who know how to hit with zone. I’ll get my occasional hit/ home run but it’s rare I’m lucky if I score more than 2 runs a game lol

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    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    We’ve been through this YEARS ago, and they at least listened and removed it from competitive play, and for good reason. Hitting iS hard, it’s part of the fun of baseball. Too much contact on balls having no business being even hit, batting averages are ridiculous. Bring skill and an even playing field back. You won’t, rather lose hardcore simulation fans who WANT the challenge of baseballl, to the droves of 12 year olds hitting mom and dad up for more stubs for the next diamond player.

    In a game of competition you cannot have one person literally holding a beer in one hand and just holding one finger on the X button making easy contact, hitting hr’s while other people are using zone and having to PLACE the PCI AND Time.

    Timing only offline? Have at it, enjoy. Online? It ruins the game and isn’t fun at all. Done already this year, it’s the only game I really love and buy faithfully every year being a baseball junkie but I’m done. I’m American and all for capitalism and free market, but there has to be some balance of quality.

    Um I don't understand your rant. Did you lose to a timing only player? How can you tell? As far I know, timing hitting has been available only in MLB 21 and 22. You still have to avoid swing at bad balls. It's actually HARDER to hit with timing vs others in DD then vs CPU.
    So... I don't understand why you are complaining. There is no chance a timing only hitter can win World Series in Ranked DD or BR over a good PCI hitter. As you win the difficulty ramps up.

    So I am confused by your post 🤔🤔🤔

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    Also timing looks at your batters hitting abilities, compares then to the pitchers abilities. What pitch is thrown, location, and speed.
    So my point is that you don't understand timing and the other types of hitting, like PCI.
    This isn't an arcade baseball game. It's a detailed simulation.

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    I've have a perfect perfect and lined out to an infielder or outfielder.

    Perfect Perfect doesn't garrenteed a homerun.

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    I use zone with analog and I tried timing and didn't see much of a difference. But I don't really understand timing hitting and SDS really doesn't explain the difference very well.

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    @h-town713-x1hqx_xbl said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    I don’t get it if your good at zone hitting and you go up against a time hitter shouldn’t you win the majority of those games? Time hitting your relying on RNG where zone it’s all user skill input.

    I okay timing cause I’m not good enough to hit with zone. When I okay online I get crushed by people who know how to hit with zone. I’ll get my occasional hit/ home run but it’s rare I’m lucky if I score more than 2 runs a game lol

    You are missing the point. Regardless of how good I or anyone else is at zone hitting, allowing a setting where it literally eliminates a huge step that zone hitters use, place the pci. I’m not talking simply being “good or bad”, I’m talking about competitive balance. If we aren’t competing on the same playing field (having to place the pci vs not), then it’s a complete joke.

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    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @h-town713-x1hqx_xbl said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    I don’t get it if your good at zone hitting and you go up against a time hitter shouldn’t you win the majority of those games? Time hitting your relying on RNG where zone it’s all user skill input.

    I okay timing cause I’m not good enough to hit with zone. When I okay online I get crushed by people who know how to hit with zone. I’ll get my occasional hit/ home run but it’s rare I’m lucky if I score more than 2 runs a game lol

    You are missing the point. Regardless of how good I or anyone else is at zone hitting, allowing a setting where it literally eliminates a huge step that zone hitters use, place the pci. I’m not talking simply being “good or bad”, I’m talking about competitive balance. If we aren’t competing on the same playing field (having to place the pci vs not), then it’s a complete joke.

    That's not really true though. Using zone hitting you control the PCI. This means if you are good with it, you can make Joey Gallo really good. Good luck hitting with Joey Gallo on timing.

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    @chuck_dizzle29 said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @h-town713-x1hqx_xbl said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    I don’t get it if your good at zone hitting and you go up against a time hitter shouldn’t you win the majority of those games? Time hitting your relying on RNG where zone it’s all user skill input.

    I okay timing cause I’m not good enough to hit with zone. When I okay online I get crushed by people who know how to hit with zone. I’ll get my occasional hit/ home run but it’s rare I’m lucky if I score more than 2 runs a game lol

    You are missing the point. Regardless of how good I or anyone else is at zone hitting, allowing a setting where it literally eliminates a huge step that zone hitters use, place the pci. I’m not talking simply being “good or bad”, I’m talking about competitive balance. If we aren’t competing on the same playing field (having to place the pci vs not), then it’s a complete joke.

    That's not really true though. Using zone hitting you control the PCI. This means if you are good with it, you can make Joey Gallo really good. Good luck hitting with Joey Gallo on timing.

    And yet the easier setting allows literally anyone to compete. Competitive balance should never mean dummy mode for masses. They can at the VERY LEAST have simply a “competitive” online area where it’s locked to zone hitting. Ehh….. I’m past caring. It’s deleted off both my consoles. Enjoy my friends!

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    Goodbye have fun

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    @jacky-chan1_xbl said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    We’ve been through this YEARS ago, and they at least listened and removed it from competitive play, and for good reason. Hitting iS hard, it’s part of the fun of baseball. Too much contact on balls having no business being even hit, batting averages are ridiculous. Bring skill and an even playing field back. You won’t, rather lose hardcore simulation fans who WANT the challenge of baseballl, to the droves of 12 year olds hitting mom and dad up for more stubs for the next diamond player.

    In a game of competition you cannot have one person literally holding a beer in one hand and just holding one finger on the X button making easy contact, hitting hr’s while other people are using zone and having to PLACE the PCI AND Time.

    Timing only offline? Have at it, enjoy. Online? It ruins the game and isn’t fun at all. Done already this year, it’s the only game I really love and buy faithfully every year being a baseball junkie but I’m done. I’m American and all for capitalism and free market, but there has to be some balance of quality.

    Um I don't understand your rant. Did you lose to a timing only player? How can you tell? As far I know, timing hitting has been available only in MLB 21 and 22. You still have to avoid swing at bad balls. It's actually HARDER to hit with timing vs others in DD then vs CPU.
    So... I don't understand why you are complaining. There is no chance a timing only hitter can win World Series in Ranked DD or BR over a good PCI hitter. As you win the difficulty ramps up.

    So I am confused by your post 🤔🤔🤔

    Sorry man, agree to disagree. I’ve been playing this series since before it was called the show or made by SDS. “MLB” by Sony’s 989 sports. Im confident in what I’m talking about. “Timing” wasn’t an option for online play in 21. In fact, this was debated and dragged out years ago and SDS finally listened to the community and got rid of it as an option for online play. Why is it back?

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    There was analog hitting which is basicly the same

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    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @jacky-chan1_xbl said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    We’ve been through this YEARS ago, and they at least listened and removed it from competitive play, and for good reason. Hitting iS hard, it’s part of the fun of baseball. Too much contact on balls having no business being even hit, batting averages are ridiculous. Bring skill and an even playing field back. You won’t, rather lose hardcore simulation fans who WANT the challenge of baseballl, to the droves of 12 year olds hitting mom and dad up for more stubs for the next diamond player.

    In a game of competition you cannot have one person literally holding a beer in one hand and just holding one finger on the X button making easy contact, hitting hr’s while other people are using zone and having to PLACE the PCI AND Time.

    Timing only offline? Have at it, enjoy. Online? It ruins the game and isn’t fun at all. Done already this year, it’s the only game I really love and buy faithfully every year being a baseball junkie but I’m done. I’m American and all for capitalism and free market, but there has to be some balance of quality.

    Um I don't understand your rant. Did you lose to a timing only player? How can you tell? As far I know, timing hitting has been available only in MLB 21 and 22. You still have to avoid swing at bad balls. It's actually HARDER to hit with timing vs others in DD then vs CPU.
    So... I don't understand why you are complaining. There is no chance a timing only hitter can win World Series in Ranked DD or BR over a good PCI hitter. As you win the difficulty ramps up.

    So I am confused by your post 🤔🤔🤔

    Sorry man, agree to disagree. I’ve been playing this series since before it was called the show or made by SDS. “MLB” by Sony’s 989 sports. Im confident in what I’m talking about. “Timing” wasn’t an option for online play in 21. In fact, this was debated and dragged out years ago and SDS finally listened to the community and got rid of it as an option for online play. Why is it back?

    There was analog hitting, which is basically the sqme

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    @toeter83_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @jacky-chan1_xbl said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    We’ve been through this YEARS ago, and they at least listened and removed it from competitive play, and for good reason. Hitting iS hard, it’s part of the fun of baseball. Too much contact on balls having no business being even hit, batting averages are ridiculous. Bring skill and an even playing field back. You won’t, rather lose hardcore simulation fans who WANT the challenge of baseballl, to the droves of 12 year olds hitting mom and dad up for more stubs for the next diamond player.

    In a game of competition you cannot have one person literally holding a beer in one hand and just holding one finger on the X button making easy contact, hitting hr’s while other people are using zone and having to PLACE the PCI AND Time.

    Timing only offline? Have at it, enjoy. Online? It ruins the game and isn’t fun at all. Done already this year, it’s the only game I really love and buy faithfully every year being a baseball junkie but I’m done. I’m American and all for capitalism and free market, but there has to be some balance of quality.

    Um I don't understand your rant. Did you lose to a timing only player? How can you tell? As far I know, timing hitting has been available only in MLB 21 and 22. You still have to avoid swing at bad balls. It's actually HARDER to hit with timing vs others in DD then vs CPU.
    So... I don't understand why you are complaining. There is no chance a timing only hitter can win World Series in Ranked DD or BR over a good PCI hitter. As you win the difficulty ramps up.

    So I am confused by your post 🤔🤔🤔

    Sorry man, agree to disagree. I’ve been playing this series since before it was called the show or made by SDS. “MLB” by Sony’s 989 sports. Im confident in what I’m talking about. “Timing” wasn’t an option for online play in 21. In fact, this was debated and dragged out years ago and SDS finally listened to the community and got rid of it as an option for online play. Why is it back?

    There was analog hitting, which is basically the sqme

    Not quite, at the very least the timing of the “load up” mattered AND you had to on the upswing swing inside or out. Listen, I’m sorry, there is no justification of dumbing hitting down to pressing a single button with 99 overall DD players. There is a good reason it was removed years ago. Why it’s back is anyones guess.

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    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @jacky-chan1_xbl said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    We’ve been through this YEARS ago, and they at least listened and removed it from competitive play, and for good reason. Hitting iS hard, it’s part of the fun of baseball. Too much contact on balls having no business being even hit, batting averages are ridiculous. Bring skill and an even playing field back. You won’t, rather lose hardcore simulation fans who WANT the challenge of baseballl, to the droves of 12 year olds hitting mom and dad up for more stubs for the next diamond player.

    In a game of competition you cannot have one person literally holding a beer in one hand and just holding one finger on the X button making easy contact, hitting hr’s while other people are using zone and having to PLACE the PCI AND Time.

    Timing only offline? Have at it, enjoy. Online? It ruins the game and isn’t fun at all. Done already this year, it’s the only game I really love and buy faithfully every year being a baseball junkie but I’m done. I’m American and all for capitalism and free market, but there has to be some balance of quality.

    Um I don't understand your rant. Did you lose to a timing only player? How can you tell? As far I know, timing hitting has been available only in MLB 21 and 22. You still have to avoid swing at bad balls. It's actually HARDER to hit with timing vs others in DD then vs CPU.
    So... I don't understand why you are complaining. There is no chance a timing only hitter can win World Series in Ranked DD or BR over a good PCI hitter. As you win the difficulty ramps up.

    So I am confused by your post 🤔🤔🤔

    Sorry man, agree to disagree. I’ve been playing this series since before it was called the show or made by SDS. “MLB” by Sony’s 989 sports. Im confident in what I’m talking about. “Timing” wasn’t an option for online play in 21. In fact, this was debated and dragged out years ago and SDS finally listened to the community and got rid of it as an option for online play. Why is it back?

    Wth I played MLB the Show 21. You're lying. I played exclusively timing on DD ranked, casual and non DD Ranked.

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    @jacky-chan1_xbl said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @jacky-chan1_xbl said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    We’ve been through this YEARS ago, and they at least listened and removed it from competitive play, and for good reason. Hitting iS hard, it’s part of the fun of baseball. Too much contact on balls having no business being even hit, batting averages are ridiculous. Bring skill and an even playing field back. You won’t, rather lose hardcore simulation fans who WANT the challenge of baseballl, to the droves of 12 year olds hitting mom and dad up for more stubs for the next diamond player.

    In a game of competition you cannot have one person literally holding a beer in one hand and just holding one finger on the X button making easy contact, hitting hr’s while other people are using zone and having to PLACE the PCI AND Time.

    Timing only offline? Have at it, enjoy. Online? It ruins the game and isn’t fun at all. Done already this year, it’s the only game I really love and buy faithfully every year being a baseball junkie but I’m done. I’m American and all for capitalism and free market, but there has to be some balance of quality.

    Um I don't understand your rant. Did you lose to a timing only player? How can you tell? As far I know, timing hitting has been available only in MLB 21 and 22. You still have to avoid swing at bad balls. It's actually HARDER to hit with timing vs others in DD then vs CPU.
    So... I don't understand why you are complaining. There is no chance a timing only hitter can win World Series in Ranked DD or BR over a good PCI hitter. As you win the difficulty ramps up.

    So I am confused by your post 🤔🤔🤔

    Sorry man, agree to disagree. I’ve been playing this series since before it was called the show or made by SDS. “MLB” by Sony’s 989 sports. Im confident in what I’m talking about. “Timing” wasn’t an option for online play in 21. In fact, this was debated and dragged out years ago and SDS finally listened to the community and got rid of it as an option for online play. Why is it back?

    Wth I played MLB the Show 21. You're lying. I played exclusively timing on DD ranked, casual and non DD Ranked.

    No sir. I’m looking at the 21 hitting settings as we speak. I can toggle zone, directional, pure analog. No timing option whatsoever. So either you are ignorant or you are lying. Come with facts or not at all.

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    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @jacky-chan1_xbl said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @jacky-chan1_xbl said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    We’ve been through this YEARS ago, and they at least listened and removed it from competitive play, and for good reason. Hitting iS hard, it’s part of the fun of baseball. Too much contact on balls having no business being even hit, batting averages are ridiculous. Bring skill and an even playing field back. You won’t, rather lose hardcore simulation fans who WANT the challenge of baseballl, to the droves of 12 year olds hitting mom and dad up for more stubs for the next diamond player.

    In a game of competition you cannot have one person literally holding a beer in one hand and just holding one finger on the X button making easy contact, hitting hr’s while other people are using zone and having to PLACE the PCI AND Time.

    Timing only offline? Have at it, enjoy. Online? It ruins the game and isn’t fun at all. Done already this year, it’s the only game I really love and buy faithfully every year being a baseball junkie but I’m done. I’m American and all for capitalism and free market, but there has to be some balance of quality.

    Um I don't understand your rant. Did you lose to a timing only player? How can you tell? As far I know, timing hitting has been available only in MLB 21 and 22. You still have to avoid swing at bad balls. It's actually HARDER to hit with timing vs others in DD then vs CPU.
    So... I don't understand why you are complaining. There is no chance a timing only hitter can win World Series in Ranked DD or BR over a good PCI hitter. As you win the difficulty ramps up.

    So I am confused by your post 🤔🤔🤔

    Sorry man, agree to disagree. I’ve been playing this series since before it was called the show or made by SDS. “MLB” by Sony’s 989 sports. Im confident in what I’m talking about. “Timing” wasn’t an option for online play in 21. In fact, this was debated and dragged out years ago and SDS finally listened to the community and got rid of it as an option for online play. Why is it back?

    Wth I played MLB the Show 21. You're lying. I played exclusively timing on DD ranked, casual and non DD Ranked.

    No sir. I’m looking at the 21 hitting settings as we speak. I can toggle zone, directional, pure analog. No timing option whatsoever. So either you are ignorant or you are lying. Come with facts or not at all.

    Directional without moving the stick is the exact same as timing. It’s been that way since directional was introduced and the separate timing option was removed. For some reason, most likely the addition of a bunch of new Switch players, they made it a separate option this year.

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    @danh35_xbl said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @jacky-chan1_xbl said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @jacky-chan1_xbl said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    @redrza_psn said in Congrats SDS, timing only hitting has ruined this game:

    We’ve been through this YEARS ago, and they at least listened and removed it from competitive play, and for good reason. Hitting iS hard, it’s part of the fun of baseball. Too much contact on balls having no business being even hit, batting averages are ridiculous. Bring skill and an even playing field back. You won’t, rather lose hardcore simulation fans who WANT the challenge of baseballl, to the droves of 12 year olds hitting mom and dad up for more stubs for the next diamond player.

    In a game of competition you cannot have one person literally holding a beer in one hand and just holding one finger on the X button making easy contact, hitting hr’s while other people are using zone and having to PLACE the PCI AND Time.

    Timing only offline? Have at it, enjoy. Online? It ruins the game and isn’t fun at all. Done already this year, it’s the only game I really love and buy faithfully every year being a baseball junkie but I’m done. I’m American and all for capitalism and free market, but there has to be some balance of quality.

    Um I don't understand your rant. Did you lose to a timing only player? How can you tell? As far I know, timing hitting has been available only in MLB 21 and 22. You still have to avoid swing at bad balls. It's actually HARDER to hit with timing vs others in DD then vs CPU.
    So... I don't understand why you are complaining. There is no chance a timing only hitter can win World Series in Ranked DD or BR over a good PCI hitter. As you win the difficulty ramps up.

    So I am confused by your post 🤔🤔🤔

    Sorry man, agree to disagree. I’ve been playing this series since before it was called the show or made by SDS. “MLB” by Sony’s 989 sports. Im confident in what I’m talking about. “Timing” wasn’t an option for online play in 21. In fact, this was debated and dragged out years ago and SDS finally listened to the community and got rid of it as an option for online play. Why is it back?

    Wth I played MLB the Show 21. You're lying. I played exclusively timing on DD ranked, casual and non DD Ranked.

    No sir. I’m looking at the 21 hitting settings as we speak. I can toggle zone, directional, pure analog. No timing option whatsoever. So either you are ignorant or you are lying. Come with facts or not at all.

    Directional without moving the stick is the exact same as timing. It’s been that way since directional was introduced and the separate timing option was removed. For some reason, most likely the addition of a bunch of new Switch players, they made it a separate option this year.

    Agree 100%. It was always known that SDS tried to “hide” dumb down mode by calling it something else and adding yellow arrows, which as you’ve aptly stated, never even needed to use at all. Even still, bare minimum, they at least TRIED to pretend they care. But this year (again I agree with you mostly in part because of adding switch) they outright just left timing period. Either way my opinion is what it is. It has zero place in competitive play.

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