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@bruno4132_psn said in 120hz online:
So is it confirmed that xbox plays at 120 all the time? And if so so u need hrr or whatever to do it or hdmi 2.1? I am gonna buy xbox if u can just run on 120hz monitor
Here is a good review of someone who played last year on both systems. In short, here is the most important point he makes...FYI:
"After multiple games using the same roster, same opposing pitcher, same stadium, same HDMI cable, and same monitor input for both consoles,I kept getting the same results: Early on 4FB/SNK using XSX, Late on 4FB/SNK using PS5.
I decided to dig deeper into my monitor settings and noticed when using my PS5, the refresh rate was 60Hz (expected). However, when I use my XSX, the refresh rate shows AMD FreeSync Premium active (both 1080p and 1440p).
To this point, PS5 still has not added support for VRR (pathetic by the way, Xbox One X had it day one all the way back in November 2017), but I eagerly await the day they finally do add support. Once they do, I am curious to see if my 4FB/SNK timing improves, but until then I'm going to be playing most/all of my RS games on XSX."
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@tmichae10_psn said in 120hz online:
@bob_loblaw1984 said in 120hz online:
@tmichae10_psn said in 120hz online:
@bhall09_psn said in 120hz online:
Really, some communication on this is necessary. This can’t be something they just don’t acknowledge and discuss.
Does that mean me + other lowly PS4 players can be doubly outraged?!?!?
I’ll allow it. But at the moment SDS is catering to your 10 year old console over the people like me that forked out the money for the next-gen.
There’s always money in the banana stand. Issue for me (and I’m sure many others here) certainly has just been availability of the new system. I’d have no issues upgrading if I could get it.
For the time being though, we’re at least joined in our contempt for Xbox!!!
My contempt is with SDS for not allowing PS5 to be on the same playing field as Xbox. But I’m giving them some time to fix it before I jump ship from Sony.
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Just bought an xbox x im donewith skny
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@bearsfan217_xbl said in 120hz online:
Game only supports up to 4k 60 fps, regardless of what ya set your xbox or PS on 120hz. Pretty sure this is the case
120hz is a hardware sync between the console and monitor. Even if frames don't increase, 120hz reduces the input lag in half, which can be more important than increasing just the frames. For instance, 4k@60 on my LG CX is 10.9ms. 4k@120 on my LG CX is 5.9ms , so my input lag goes in half. This is why 120hz is important, even if you don't get more frames. The Sony VRR patch was needed to avoid screen tearing at the higher refresh rate.
Also, the game is compiled with the 60fps+ spec, which means it can deliver higher than 60fps sometime. That is why SDS uses the term "targeted 60fps gameplay", as frame rates can change (go up or down), depending on load, cables, etc.
The game can do 120FPS (on top of 120hz for the refresh rate) if they compile the code with the 120 frame booster patches that are available on the consoles. That would be great as well, yet 120hz refresh rate in itself is the best as the input lag reduction is significant, and what people are really happy and awe-inspired about.
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@tvsectog_xbl said in 120hz online:
@bearsfan217_xbl said in 120hz online:
Game only supports up to 4k 60 fps, regardless of what ya set your xbox or PS on 120hz. Pretty sure this is the case
120hz is a hardware sync between the console and monitor. Even if frames don't increase, 120hz reduces the input lag in half, which can be more important than increasing just the frames. For instance, 4k@60 on my LG CX is 10.9ms. 4k@120 on my LG CX is 5.9ms , so my input lag goes in half. This is why 120hz is important, even if you don't get more frames. The Sony VRR patch was needed to avoid screen tearing at the higher refresh rate.
Also, the game is compiled with the 60fps+ spec, which means it can deliver higher than 60fps sometime. That is why SDS uses the term "targeted 60fps gameplay", as frame rates can change (go up or down), depending on load, cables, etc.
The game can do 120FPS (on top of 120hz for the refresh rate) if they compile the code with the 120 frame booster patches that are available on the consoles. That would be great as well, yet 120hz refresh rate in itself is the best as the input lag reduction is significant, and what people are really happy and awe-inspired about.
When you say "input lag" are you referring to the time it takes for your display to react to your input buttons from your controller.... or are you referring to "response time" as in the time it takes for your display to render a moving image?
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Looks like Madden is still capped at 60 fps, but VRR is working. But id frame rate is capped VRR is pretty useless because you are using V-Sync
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@xelrojo44x_mlbts said in 120hz online:
@tvsectog_xbl said in 120hz online:
@bearsfan217_xbl said in 120hz online:
Game only supports up to 4k 60 fps, regardless of what ya set your xbox or PS on 120hz. Pretty sure this is the case
120hz is a hardware sync between the console and monitor. Even if frames don't increase, 120hz reduces the input lag in half, which can be more important than increasing just the frames. For instance, 4k@60 on my LG CX is 10.9ms. 4k@120 on my LG CX is 5.9ms , so my input lag goes in half. This is why 120hz is important, even if you don't get more frames. The Sony VRR patch was needed to avoid screen tearing at the higher refresh rate.
Also, the game is compiled with the 60fps+ spec, which means it can deliver higher than 60fps sometime. That is why SDS uses the term "targeted 60fps gameplay", as frame rates can change (go up or down), depending on load, cables, etc.
The game can do 120FPS (on top of 120hz for the refresh rate) if they compile the code with the 120 frame booster patches that are available on the consoles. That would be great as well, yet 120hz refresh rate in itself is the best as the input lag reduction is significant, and what people are really happy and awe-inspired about.
When you say "input lag" are you referring to the time it takes for your display to react to your input buttons from your controller.... or are you referring to "response time" as in the time it takes for your display to render a moving image?
TV's have both input lag and response time. My LG CX has a response time of .3ms (even faster than monitors), yet the input lag is 5.9ms for 4k@120 and 10.9ms for 4k@60 . The response time of the monitor is how fast the pizels can change, and is near instant on an OLED, as only each individual pixel affected has to change, not everything. Input lag in this instance is the time it takes the console to send the information to the monitor so that the monitor/TV can process and draw the image. The response time to draw it is instant at .3ms , yet it still takes time for the information of what to draw goes from the console to the TV/monitor. That time from the console to TV is the input lag I am talking about.
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Also, controller button push to the console, the console to process it and then send it to the monitor/TV telling it what to display is additional input lag, yet not usually calculated in the monitor specs. Input lag for the monitor specs is usually just from the console to the monitor. 120 can send twice the amount of information at 60, which is why the input lag lowers in half (performance numbers are not 100% linear as there is some overhead, yet close , and hold true in this case as 5.9ms is relatively close to half of 10.9ms (a 91% speedup, technically).
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@tvsectog_xbl said in 120hz online:
Also, controller button push to the console, the console to process it and then send it to the monitor/TV telling it what to display is additional input lag, yet not usually calculated in the monitor specs. Input lag for the monitor specs is usually just from the console to the monitor. 120 can send twice the amount of information at 60, which is why the input lag lowers in half (performance numbers are not 100% linear as there is some overhead, yet close , and hold true in this case as 5.9ms is relatively close to half of 10.9ms (a 91% speedup, technically).
Thanks for the explanation!
I remember reading a tech article that even recommended using a shorter HDMI cable to help reduce input lag... noting that a 3 ft. cable can shave off milliseconds off of your input lag vs a 6 ft cable... LOL -
@xelrojo44x_mlbts said in 120hz online:
@tvsectog_xbl said in 120hz online:
Also, controller button push to the console, the console to process it and then send it to the monitor/TV telling it what to display is additional input lag, yet not usually calculated in the monitor specs. Input lag for the monitor specs is usually just from the console to the monitor. 120 can send twice the amount of information at 60, which is why the input lag lowers in half (performance numbers are not 100% linear as there is some overhead, yet close , and hold true in this case as 5.9ms is relatively close to half of 10.9ms (a 91% speedup, technically).
Thanks for the explanation!
I remember reading a tech article that even recommended using a shorter HDMI cable to help reduce input lag... noting that a 3 ft. cable can shave off milliseconds off of your input lag vs a 6 ft cable... LOLDepends on the quality of the cable. A shorter cable that is made poorly, won't be faster than a longer cable that is built to spec. Crimps in the cable, etc, can also affect the input lag.
However, yes, in theory a shorter cable should help, as it is less distance for the electrical signal to travel. However, the difference would really be splitting hairs at that point. Theoretically, yes, a shorter cable should be faster, yet not sure we can notice that small of a difference. A 5ms drop is noticeable, yet not sure .6ms I would be able to tell (however, maybe.....maybe....possibly, yet I'll take my 5ms input lag drop due to 120hz .... over a shorter cable .6ms
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@hoffsdrawlar_psn said in 120hz online:
@SDS_Jax_PSN Can anyone confirm whether or not this game will go to 120hz online prior to the release of The Show 23? It was not marketed as such, and will be a big disadvantage for us last gen players. Just wondering if I should waste anymore time with this game.
turn cross play off
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Coincidentally, last last year I found a different issue late last year ......that was able to significantly reduce my input lag. Not sure how much, but it was significant as well. Anyway, ever since I found that and a fix, I can hit insane. I'm hitting over .370 online in Ranked (up to 800 right now) .... and have 65 homers with Trout after just 3 weeks. This is different than the 120hz issue....and has made a big difference for me as well.
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I can confirm (I have pictures and video), that 4k@120 works on an Xbox Series X while playing the game online.
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@tvsectog_xbl said in 120hz online:
@bearsfan217_xbl said in 120hz online:
Game only supports up to 4k 60 fps, regardless of what ya set your xbox or PS on 120hz. Pretty sure this is the case
120hz is a hardware sync between the console and monitor. Even if frames don't increase, 120hz reduces the input lag in half, which can be more important than increasing just the frames. For instance, 4k@60 on my LG CX is 10.9ms. 4k@120 on my LG CX is 5.9ms , so my input lag goes in half. This is why 120hz is important, even if you don't get more frames. The Sony VRR patch was needed to avoid screen tearing at the higher refresh rate.
Also, the game is compiled with the 60fps+ spec, which means it can deliver higher than 60fps sometime. That is why SDS uses the term "targeted 60fps gameplay", as frame rates can change (go up or down), depending on load, cables, etc.
The game can do 120FPS (on top of 120hz for the refresh rate) if they compile the code with the 120 frame booster patches that are available on the consoles. That would be great as well, yet 120hz refresh rate in itself is the best as the input lag reduction is significant, and what people are really happy and awe-inspired about.
Wow, thanks for this super informative post. Would it be better to have my settings at 1440p at 120hz or 1080p at 120hz? I heard MLB doesn't even support 1440p and the only options past 1080p is 4K (which I don't have).
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@iamover30_mlbts said in 120hz online:
@tvsectog_xbl said in 120hz online:
@bearsfan217_xbl said in 120hz online:
Game only supports up to 4k 60 fps, regardless of what ya set your xbox or PS on 120hz. Pretty sure this is the case
120hz is a hardware sync between the console and monitor. Even if frames don't increase, 120hz reduces the input lag in half, which can be more important than increasing just the frames. For instance, 4k@60 on my LG CX is 10.9ms. 4k@120 on my LG CX is 5.9ms , so my input lag goes in half. This is why 120hz is important, even if you don't get more frames. The Sony VRR patch was needed to avoid screen tearing at the higher refresh rate.
Also, the game is compiled with the 60fps+ spec, which means it can deliver higher than 60fps sometime. That is why SDS uses the term "targeted 60fps gameplay", as frame rates can change (go up or down), depending on load, cables, etc.
The game can do 120FPS (on top of 120hz for the refresh rate) if they compile the code with the 120 frame booster patches that are available on the consoles. That would be great as well, yet 120hz refresh rate in itself is the best as the input lag reduction is significant, and what people are really happy and awe-inspired about.
Wow, thanks for this super informative post. Would it be better to have my settings at 1440p at 120hz or 1080p at 120hz? I heard MLB doesn't even support 1440p and the only options past 1080p is 4K (which I don't have).
PS5 doesn't support 1440p , so 1080p and 4k are your only options. PS4 used to support 1440p. Can't remember if the Xbox supports 1440 or not off the top of my head (I think it does), yet the input lag for the CX is less at 4k than 1440 if I remember correctly. I think you might be stuck at 1080p if your are on a PS5.
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@iamover30_mlbts said in 120hz online:
@tvsectog_xbl said in 120hz online:
@bearsfan217_xbl said in 120hz online:
Game only supports up to 4k 60 fps, regardless of what ya set your xbox or PS on 120hz. Pretty sure this is the case
120hz is a hardware sync between the console and monitor. Even if frames don't increase, 120hz reduces the input lag in half, which can be more important than increasing just the frames. For instance, 4k@60 on my LG CX is 10.9ms. 4k@120 on my LG CX is 5.9ms , so my input lag goes in half. This is why 120hz is important, even if you don't get more frames. The Sony VRR patch was needed to avoid screen tearing at the higher refresh rate.
Also, the game is compiled with the 60fps+ spec, which means it can deliver higher than 60fps sometime. That is why SDS uses the term "targeted 60fps gameplay", as frame rates can change (go up or down), depending on load, cables, etc.
The game can do 120FPS (on top of 120hz for the refresh rate) if they compile the code with the 120 frame booster patches that are available on the consoles. That would be great as well, yet 120hz refresh rate in itself is the best as the input lag reduction is significant, and what people are really happy and awe-inspired about.
Wow, thanks for this super informative post. Would it be better to have my settings at 1440p at 120hz or 1080p at 120hz? I heard MLB doesn't even support 1440p and the only options past 1080p is 4K (which I don't have).
Correction, I don't think the Xbox supports 1440p.
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@guccigangchuck said in 120hz online:
@hoffsdrawlar_psn said in 120hz online:
@SDS_Jax_PSN Can anyone confirm whether or not this game will go to 120hz online prior to the release of The Show 23? It was not marketed as such, and will be a big disadvantage for us last gen players. Just wondering if I should waste anymore time with this game.
turn cross play off
Will this keep games at PS4 only though? I would imagine PS5 would still be included in crossplay but I very well could be wrong. At this point I am not too consumed by it. It will be interesting if it is implemented to see how big any advantage will be.
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