deGrom vs Pearson
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@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
Because most pitches out of DeGrom's hand look the very same until just before they break to the plate. If you know how to tunnel effectively he can give the best players in this game fits. Nate Pearson is meh imo, you just sit fastball and the adjustment to everything else is not that hard because the pitches don't look the same out of the hand.
Gotcha. That could be the reason why I’ve never once faced Pearson online.
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Hey Shawn do you still play friendlies? You know where to find me. I'll take on either pitcher on Veteran HAHAHAHAH Just kidding
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Yeah, its more about the deliveries and how the ball looks out of the hand. Just like hitting. They can be maxed out cross the board but if you dont like, arent use to the swing, there are plenty of way less cards that work better.
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@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
Because most pitches out of DeGrom's hand look the very same until just before they break to the plate. If you know how to tunnel effectively he can give the best players in this game fits. Nate Pearson is meh imo, you just sit fastball and the adjustment to everything else is not that hard because the pitches don't look the same out of the hand.
This is why you all are way above my pay grade. How on earth can you determine what the pitch is going to be as it comes out of his hand? Do you memorize release points, or is the hand in a different location ? I guess if you face the same pitcher over and over, but I've never been able to do it.
Also, how can one tunnel in the game? These are all actual questions, no sarcasm. It's my understanding we can't effect how or where the ball is released only the timing. Is that wrong? Also, I only use Meter. Is it a Pinpoint thing exclusively?
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@ericulous1_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
Because most pitches out of DeGrom's hand look the very same until just before they break to the plate. If you know how to tunnel effectively he can give the best players in this game fits. Nate Pearson is meh imo, you just sit fastball and the adjustment to everything else is not that hard because the pitches don't look the same out of the hand.
This is why you all are way above my pay grade. How on earth can you determine what the pitch is going to be as it comes out of his hand? Do you memorize release points, or is the hand in a different location ? I guess if you face the same pitcher over and over, but I've never been able to do it.
Also, how can one tunnel in the game? These are all actual questions, no sarcasm. It's my understanding we can't effect how or where the ball is released only the timing. Is that wrong? Also, I only use Meter. Is it a Pinpoint thing exclusively?
It's an accumulation of playing this game for many years on a high level and seeing millions of pitches thrown at me. You do actually mesmerize the release points and also the path of the baseball for each pitch type per pitcher. Of course it's still kinda hard because otherwise I'd never lose a single game and hit every ball out of the park, but yeah that's the idea.
Tunneling is making a pitch looking the exact same but with different break at the end. Like a cutter outside and then a sinker inside on the same spot. They look exactly the same but one breaks outside for a ball and the other breaks back in for a strike. You can get very creative with this and keep guys off balance. -
@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@ericulous1_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
Because most pitches out of DeGrom's hand look the very same until just before they break to the plate. If you know how to tunnel effectively he can give the best players in this game fits. Nate Pearson is meh imo, you just sit fastball and the adjustment to everything else is not that hard because the pitches don't look the same out of the hand.
This is why you all are way above my pay grade. How on earth can you determine what the pitch is going to be as it comes out of his hand? Do you memorize release points, or is the hand in a different location ? I guess if you face the same pitcher over and over, but I've never been able to do it.
Also, how can one tunnel in the game? These are all actual questions, no sarcasm. It's my understanding we can't effect how or where the ball is released only the timing. Is that wrong? Also, I only use Meter. Is it a Pinpoint thing exclusively?
It's an accumulation of playing this game for many years on a high level and seeing millions of pitches thrown at me. You do actually mesmerize the release points and also the path of the baseball for each pitch type per pitcher. Of course it's still kinda hard because otherwise I'd never lose a single game and hit every ball out of the park, but yeah that's the idea.
Tunneling is making a pitch looking the exact same but with different break at the end. Like a cutter outside and then a sinker inside on the same spot. They look exactly the same but one breaks outside for a ball and the other breaks back in for a strike. You can get very creative with this and keep guys off balance.I can second what he is saying. After seeing that many pitches, you begin to read them much easier and most importantly, quit chasing a lot of stuff out of the zone.
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I use him just as my 5th starter, Pearson that is
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@write-to-shawn_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
Curious to know some thoughts on why deGrom is valued much more than Pearson in online play.
Both have outlier fastballs with top notch sliders. Both have average change-ups and curveballs. The only difference in pitching that I’m seeing is that deGrom has a 2-seamer, which doesn’t seem significant.
I wanted to get some input before I consider using Pearson.
In my opinion Pearson was far more effective in 20. Something is different with his delivery this year (it seems)…can’t put my finger on it.
Pitches aside, DeGroms attributes put him at the top of the mountain especially at p5. Not sure there are any who can compare
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@ericulous1_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
Because most pitches out of DeGrom's hand look the very same until just before they break to the plate. If you know how to tunnel effectively he can give the best players in this game fits. Nate Pearson is meh imo, you just sit fastball and the adjustment to everything else is not that hard because the pitches don't look the same out of the hand.
This is why you all are way above my pay grade. How on earth can you determine what the pitch is going to be as it comes out of his hand? Do you memorize release points, or is the hand in a different location ? I guess if you face the same pitcher over and over, but I've never been able to do it.
Also, how can one tunnel in the game? These are all actual questions, no sarcasm. It's my understanding we can't effect how or where the ball is released only the timing. Is that wrong? Also, I only use Meter. Is it a Pinpoint thing exclusively?
Monitors
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@texas10pt_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
Hey Shawn do you still play friendlies? You know where to find me. I'll take on either pitcher on Veteran HAHAHAHAH Just kidding
Jeff, I’m down! Sending you a friend request when I get home.
If anyone else is interested in friendlies, let me know!
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@write-to-shawn_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@texas10pt_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
Hey Shawn do you still play friendlies? You know where to find me. I'll take on either pitcher on Veteran HAHAHAHAH Just kidding
Jeff, I’m down! Sending you a friend request when I get home.
If anyone else is interested in friendlies, let me know!
I am but I'm not great. Just going to be starting my second season here and could use all the practice I can get.
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@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@ericulous1_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
Because most pitches out of DeGrom's hand look the very same until just before they break to the plate. If you know how to tunnel effectively he can give the best players in this game fits. Nate Pearson is meh imo, you just sit fastball and the adjustment to everything else is not that hard because the pitches don't look the same out of the hand.
This is why you all are way above my pay grade. How on earth can you determine what the pitch is going to be as it comes out of his hand? Do you memorize release points, or is the hand in a different location ? I guess if you face the same pitcher over and over, but I've never been able to do it.
Also, how can one tunnel in the game? These are all actual questions, no sarcasm. It's my understanding we can't effect how or where the ball is released only the timing. Is that wrong? Also, I only use Meter. Is it a Pinpoint thing exclusively?
It's an accumulation of playing this game for many years on a high level and seeing millions of pitches thrown at me. You do actually mesmerize the release points and also the path of the baseball for each pitch type per pitcher. Of course it's still kinda hard because otherwise I'd never lose a single game and hit every ball out of the park, but yeah that's the idea.
Tunneling is making a pitch looking the exact same but with different break at the end. Like a cutter outside and then a sinker inside on the same spot. They look exactly the same but one breaks outside for a ball and the other breaks back in for a strike. You can get very creative with this and keep guys off balance.Thanks. I am learning how to mix pitches better. How can you make two seperate pitches look the same upon release? Is there any input that effects that or is it more about the pitcher and which pitches you choose? Like I get that a sinker and a fastball will have different movement but a similar release.
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@ericulous1_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@write-to-shawn_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@texas10pt_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
Hey Shawn do you still play friendlies? You know where to find me. I'll take on either pitcher on Veteran HAHAHAHAH Just kidding
Jeff, I’m down! Sending you a friend request when I get home.
If anyone else is interested in friendlies, let me know!
I am but I'm not great. Just going to be starting my second season here and could use all the practice I can get.
Gonna send you a friend request if you’re cool with it.
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@ericulous1_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@ericulous1_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
Because most pitches out of DeGrom's hand look the very same until just before they break to the plate. If you know how to tunnel effectively he can give the best players in this game fits. Nate Pearson is meh imo, you just sit fastball and the adjustment to everything else is not that hard because the pitches don't look the same out of the hand.
This is why you all are way above my pay grade. How on earth can you determine what the pitch is going to be as it comes out of his hand? Do you memorize release points, or is the hand in a different location ? I guess if you face the same pitcher over and over, but I've never been able to do it.
Also, how can one tunnel in the game? These are all actual questions, no sarcasm. It's my understanding we can't effect how or where the ball is released only the timing. Is that wrong? Also, I only use Meter. Is it a Pinpoint thing exclusively?
It's an accumulation of playing this game for many years on a high level and seeing millions of pitches thrown at me. You do actually mesmerize the release points and also the path of the baseball for each pitch type per pitcher. Of course it's still kinda hard because otherwise I'd never lose a single game and hit every ball out of the park, but yeah that's the idea.
Tunneling is making a pitch looking the exact same but with different break at the end. Like a cutter outside and then a sinker inside on the same spot. They look exactly the same but one breaks outside for a ball and the other breaks back in for a strike. You can get very creative with this and keep guys off balance.Thanks. I am learning how to mix pitches better. How can you make two seperate pitches look the same upon release? Is there any input that effects that or is it more about the pitcher and which pitches you choose? Like I get that a sinker and a fastball will have different movement but a similar release.
Basically what you wanna look for is 2 pitches that have almost the exact same travel path towards the plate, but break differently once it gets to the plate. The idea is to make your opponent think it's one pitch but it's actually a different pitch. Someone who does this really well in MLBTS 21 is Clayton Kershaw. You can tunnel his slider high in the zone off of a regular fastball, which makes it very hard to read the correct pitch and will end up in a lot of jammed hits.
I advise you to look on YouTube for guys who explain the concept of tunneling pitches. They give you examples so that you have a visual idea of how it works, it's better than me just typing it here. Look for CBrev, he explains it really well.
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@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@ericulous1_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@ericulous1_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
Because most pitches out of DeGrom's hand look the very same until just before they break to the plate. If you know how to tunnel effectively he can give the best players in this game fits. Nate Pearson is meh imo, you just sit fastball and the adjustment to everything else is not that hard because the pitches don't look the same out of the hand.
This is why you all are way above my pay grade. How on earth can you determine what the pitch is going to be as it comes out of his hand? Do you memorize release points, or is the hand in a different location ? I guess if you face the same pitcher over and over, but I've never been able to do it.
Also, how can one tunnel in the game? These are all actual questions, no sarcasm. It's my understanding we can't effect how or where the ball is released only the timing. Is that wrong? Also, I only use Meter. Is it a Pinpoint thing exclusively?
It's an accumulation of playing this game for many years on a high level and seeing millions of pitches thrown at me. You do actually mesmerize the release points and also the path of the baseball for each pitch type per pitcher. Of course it's still kinda hard because otherwise I'd never lose a single game and hit every ball out of the park, but yeah that's the idea.
Tunneling is making a pitch looking the exact same but with different break at the end. Like a cutter outside and then a sinker inside on the same spot. They look exactly the same but one breaks outside for a ball and the other breaks back in for a strike. You can get very creative with this and keep guys off balance.Thanks. I am learning how to mix pitches better. How can you make two seperate pitches look the same upon release? Is there any input that effects that or is it more about the pitcher and which pitches you choose? Like I get that a sinker and a fastball will have different movement but a similar release.
Basically what you wanna look for is 2 pitches that have almost the exact same travel path towards the plate, but break differently once it gets to the plate. The idea is to make your opponent think it's one pitch but it's actually a different pitch. Someone who does this really well in MLBTS 21 is Clayton Kershaw. You can tunnel his slider high in the zone off of a regular fastball, which makes it very hard to read the correct pitch and will end up in a lot of jammed hits.
I advise you to look on YouTube for guys who explain the concept of tunneling pitches. They give you examples so that you have a visual idea of how it works, it's better than me just typing it here. Look for CBrev, he explains it really well.
Thanks, this definitely helps and I will check out some videos and have fun trying to do this.
@Write-To-Shawn_PSN , of course, sounds good. Just be prepared for a lopsided game hahaha, I'm getting better though.
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@ericulous1_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@ericulous1_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@ericulous1_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
Because most pitches out of DeGrom's hand look the very same until just before they break to the plate. If you know how to tunnel effectively he can give the best players in this game fits. Nate Pearson is meh imo, you just sit fastball and the adjustment to everything else is not that hard because the pitches don't look the same out of the hand.
This is why you all are way above my pay grade. How on earth can you determine what the pitch is going to be as it comes out of his hand? Do you memorize release points, or is the hand in a different location ? I guess if you face the same pitcher over and over, but I've never been able to do it.
Also, how can one tunnel in the game? These are all actual questions, no sarcasm. It's my understanding we can't effect how or where the ball is released only the timing. Is that wrong? Also, I only use Meter. Is it a Pinpoint thing exclusively?
It's an accumulation of playing this game for many years on a high level and seeing millions of pitches thrown at me. You do actually mesmerize the release points and also the path of the baseball for each pitch type per pitcher. Of course it's still kinda hard because otherwise I'd never lose a single game and hit every ball out of the park, but yeah that's the idea.
Tunneling is making a pitch looking the exact same but with different break at the end. Like a cutter outside and then a sinker inside on the same spot. They look exactly the same but one breaks outside for a ball and the other breaks back in for a strike. You can get very creative with this and keep guys off balance.Thanks. I am learning how to mix pitches better. How can you make two seperate pitches look the same upon release? Is there any input that effects that or is it more about the pitcher and which pitches you choose? Like I get that a sinker and a fastball will have different movement but a similar release.
Basically what you wanna look for is 2 pitches that have almost the exact same travel path towards the plate, but break differently once it gets to the plate. The idea is to make your opponent think it's one pitch but it's actually a different pitch. Someone who does this really well in MLBTS 21 is Clayton Kershaw. You can tunnel his slider high in the zone off of a regular fastball, which makes it very hard to read the correct pitch and will end up in a lot of jammed hits.
I advise you to look on YouTube for guys who explain the concept of tunneling pitches. They give you examples so that you have a visual idea of how it works, it's better than me just typing it here. Look for CBrev, he explains it really well.
Thanks, this definitely helps and I will check out some videos and have fun trying to do this.
@Write-To-Shawn_PSN , of course, sounds good. Just be prepared for a lopsided game hahaha, I'm getting better though.
Eric….I will send you a friend request also if that’s ok. I love playing friendlies with guys who play real baseball.
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@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
Because most pitches out of DeGrom's hand look the very same until just before they break to the plate. If you know how to tunnel effectively he can give the best players in this game fits. Nate Pearson is meh imo, you just sit fastball and the adjustment to everything else is not that hard because the pitches don't look the same out of the hand.
I agree 100% no matter how many times I face Degrom I just cant pick up the pitch
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@texas10pt_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@ericulous1_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@ericulous1_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@ericulous1_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
@raesone_psn said in deGrom vs Pearson:
Because most pitches out of DeGrom's hand look the very same until just before they break to the plate. If you know how to tunnel effectively he can give the best players in this game fits. Nate Pearson is meh imo, you just sit fastball and the adjustment to everything else is not that hard because the pitches don't look the same out of the hand.
This is why you all are way above my pay grade. How on earth can you determine what the pitch is going to be as it comes out of his hand? Do you memorize release points, or is the hand in a different location ? I guess if you face the same pitcher over and over, but I've never been able to do it.
Also, how can one tunnel in the game? These are all actual questions, no sarcasm. It's my understanding we can't effect how or where the ball is released only the timing. Is that wrong? Also, I only use Meter. Is it a Pinpoint thing exclusively?
It's an accumulation of playing this game for many years on a high level and seeing millions of pitches thrown at me. You do actually mesmerize the release points and also the path of the baseball for each pitch type per pitcher. Of course it's still kinda hard because otherwise I'd never lose a single game and hit every ball out of the park, but yeah that's the idea.
Tunneling is making a pitch looking the exact same but with different break at the end. Like a cutter outside and then a sinker inside on the same spot. They look exactly the same but one breaks outside for a ball and the other breaks back in for a strike. You can get very creative with this and keep guys off balance.Thanks. I am learning how to mix pitches better. How can you make two seperate pitches look the same upon release? Is there any input that effects that or is it more about the pitcher and which pitches you choose? Like I get that a sinker and a fastball will have different movement but a similar release.
Basically what you wanna look for is 2 pitches that have almost the exact same travel path towards the plate, but break differently once it gets to the plate. The idea is to make your opponent think it's one pitch but it's actually a different pitch. Someone who does this really well in MLBTS 21 is Clayton Kershaw. You can tunnel his slider high in the zone off of a regular fastball, which makes it very hard to read the correct pitch and will end up in a lot of jammed hits.
I advise you to look on YouTube for guys who explain the concept of tunneling pitches. They give you examples so that you have a visual idea of how it works, it's better than me just typing it here. Look for CBrev, he explains it really well.
Thanks, this definitely helps and I will check out some videos and have fun trying to do this.
@Write-To-Shawn_PSN , of course, sounds good. Just be prepared for a lopsided game hahaha, I'm getting better though.
Eric….I will send you a friend request also if that’s ok. I love playing friendlies with guys who play real baseball.
️️Anytime, I'm not great as I keep mentioning but I play a fair game, no shenanigans. I'd be happy to play against you dude. My pops who is a Giants fan will probably pull for you.
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Degrom has much better stamina, a fifth pitch which is a much better than people give him credit for. And Pearson release points are very readable.
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