Wagner vs chapman vs Hader
-
Whos better?
-
Chapman>Wagner>Diekman>Hader
-
I like Britton silver. He is so good
-
I wish they'd being back that gold 84 Brett Cecil... I loved that card. Unhittable. Hidden gem
-
I have all 3 on my team. They are all tier 2 and 1/2 way to 3 so I've pitched quite a lot with all 3.
I'd rate them: 1. Wagner 2. Chapman 3. HaderControl is possibly the most important attribute for pitchers both in real life and this game. For instance, I have Street and with great control on 4 pitches and despite below average velocity on his FB, he pitches as well as or better then those 3 because it seems like every pitch goes pretty much exactly where you aim it and he hangs nothing.
Wagner has 3 pitches and two of them are great. Overall he has by far the best control of the 3 and having pitched all 3 guys a lot he feels like it's a lot less "hoping" the pitches go close to where you're aiming. He also has a fantastic clutch rating and closers are always pitching in clutch situations.
I think Chapman is better then Hader.
Chapman has 4 pitches which is nice but not great control on any of them. However that variety does help. He has a great HR/9 rating as opposed to Hader's poor rating.
Hader has 3 pitches, his slider isn't great and he has no control at all on his 2 seamer. Great break but the combination of huge break and no control means you never know where it's going.
It feels like Hader only has 1 really good/great pitch and like he's more of a vs. LH hitter specialist.One thing I watch for with Chapman and Hader is their current real life performance affect on their attributes, if any. Of course this doesn't apply to Wagner so what you see is always what you get with him.
But nice bonuses (or negatives) in H/9 and K/9 could change the order of the 3, especially Chapman and Hader if one has a great bonus and the other a negative.
Right now both Hader and Chapman have nice bonuses. -
Hader is awful.
-
John Franco has entered the chat
-
A admin locked this topic on
