Roberto alomar
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@nanthrax_1_psn said in Roberto alomar:
@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Roberto alomar:
@duiaintez_psn said in Roberto alomar:
I guess it's beyond a rumor in the courts. The rumors in Toronto were he was HIV positive and wasn't disclosing it to partners.
And that he hit his estranged wife. 2008 I believe
and spit in an umpires face during his playing days
That was the day I stopped being a fan of his. But hardly the same thing as the other 2...
oh yea not saying its the same. he just has a track record of being a garbage human being
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@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Roberto alomar:
@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Roberto alomar:
@duiaintez_psn said in Roberto alomar:
I guess it's beyond a rumor in the courts. The rumors in Toronto were he was HIV positive and wasn't disclosing it to partners.
And that he hit his estranged wife. 2008 I believe
and spit in an umpires face during his playing days
That was the day I stopped being a fan of his. But hardly the same thing as the other 2...
oh yea not saying its the same. he just has a track record of being a garbage human being
100%
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@duiaintez_psn said in Roberto alomar:
@king-cals_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
Moral of the story: don’t touch girls that don’t wanna be touched. No girl wants me to touch them, and you don’t see my prude self with a lawsuit. Take notes alomar
I think it should be noted that it's been referenced as sexual misconduct rather than assault. It may have been a situation where he continually harassed a colleague, and by the sounds of it, did things we all know cross the line.
Moral of the story: weiner pics never work, trust me
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@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@formallyforearms said in Roberto alomar:
The best defensive 2B I have seen, and a great all around player.
Considering allegations that he beat his first wife, and the spitting in the face of the umpire incident, I'm sure with the latest allegation that he will no longer be in the game anymore, and I would say rightly so.
You’re right. Guilty until proven innocent!
MLB did an investigation and found evidence to warrant their decision. try again
Allegations. Try again. The MLB is a private organization and can do whatever they want. Try again.
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@formallyforearms said in Roberto alomar:
@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@formallyforearms said in Roberto alomar:
The best defensive 2B I have seen, and a great all around player.
Considering allegations that he beat his first wife, and the spitting in the face of the umpire incident, I'm sure with the latest allegation that he will no longer be in the game anymore, and I would say rightly so.
You’re right. Guilty until proven innocent!
He was guilty of spitting in an umpire's face. There were also domestic violence injunctions served against him by police during his first marriage. Those are the facts.
I dont want it to be true either, but adding new charges, along with his past... it doesnt look good.
They why use "allegations" in the vocabulary? I couldn't care less about the dude. Never liked him, never will... but when the term "allegation" is used, and then people are like... "Let's remove the card"... it's silly.
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@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@formallyforearms said in Roberto alomar:
The best defensive 2B I have seen, and a great all around player.
Considering allegations that he beat his first wife, and the spitting in the face of the umpire incident, I'm sure with the latest allegation that he will no longer be in the game anymore, and I would say rightly so.
You’re right. Guilty until proven innocent!
MLB did an investigation and found evidence to warrant their decision. try again
Allegations. Try again. The MLB is a private organization and can do whatever they want. Try again.
what even is the point youre trying to make? MLB decided they didnt want him apart of their business anymore and they banned him. Banned players dont get cards. the card thats in the game will most likely be the last alomar card you will ever see in the game. no one is saying hes 100% guilty here but MLB apparently was given enough evidence by the investigators they hired
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@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@formallyforearms said in Roberto alomar:
The best defensive 2B I have seen, and a great all around player.
Considering allegations that he beat his first wife, and the spitting in the face of the umpire incident, I'm sure with the latest allegation that he will no longer be in the game anymore, and I would say rightly so.
You’re right. Guilty until proven innocent!
MLB did an investigation and found evidence to warrant their decision. try again
Allegations. Try again. The MLB is a private organization and can do whatever they want. Try again.
what even is the point youre trying to make? MLB decided they didnt want him apart of their business anymore and they banned him. Banned players dont get cards. the card thats in the game will most likely be the last alomar card you will ever see in the game. no one is saying hes 100% guilty here but MLB apparently was given enough evidence by the investigators they hired
I'll iterate this a bit more for you. The MLB is a private org, and they can do whatever they want with whomever they want. That's why they have the MLBPA. My point is that just because the MLB does something, doesn't make him guilty on all charges. I'm more of a "let's her both sides of the story" type of person. Most of these accusers are found to be liars.
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@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@formallyforearms said in Roberto alomar:
The best defensive 2B I have seen, and a great all around player.
Considering allegations that he beat his first wife, and the spitting in the face of the umpire incident, I'm sure with the latest allegation that he will no longer be in the game anymore, and I would say rightly so.
You’re right. Guilty until proven innocent!
MLB did an investigation and found evidence to warrant their decision. try again
Allegations. Try again. The MLB is a private organization and can do whatever they want. Try again.
what even is the point youre trying to make? MLB decided they didnt want him apart of their business anymore and they banned him. Banned players dont get cards. the card thats in the game will most likely be the last alomar card you will ever see in the game. no one is saying hes 100% guilty here but MLB apparently was given enough evidence by the investigators they hired
I'll iterate this a bit more for you. The MLB is a private org, and they can do whatever they want with whomever they want. That's why they have the MLBPA. My point is that just because the MLB does something, doesn't make him guilty on all charges. I'm more of a "let's her both sides of the story" type of person. Most of these accusers are found to be liars.
I agree with everything you say until the last sentence. Would love to see some evidence on that if possible. I dont think anyone here is trying to say he should go to prison but i think it makes sense for the mlb to take the course of action that they did and I wouldnt be upset to see his card to go
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@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@formallyforearms said in Roberto alomar:
The best defensive 2B I have seen, and a great all around player.
Considering allegations that he beat his first wife, and the spitting in the face of the umpire incident, I'm sure with the latest allegation that he will no longer be in the game anymore, and I would say rightly so.
You’re right. Guilty until proven innocent!
MLB did an investigation and found evidence to warrant their decision. try again
Allegations. Try again. The MLB is a private organization and can do whatever they want. Try again.
what even is the point youre trying to make? MLB decided they didnt want him apart of their business anymore and they banned him. Banned players dont get cards. the card thats in the game will most likely be the last alomar card you will ever see in the game. no one is saying hes 100% guilty here but MLB apparently was given enough evidence by the investigators they hired
I'll iterate this a bit more for you. The MLB is a private org, and they can do whatever they want with whomever they want. That's why they have the MLBPA. My point is that just because the MLB does something, doesn't make him guilty on all charges. I'm more of a "let's her both sides of the story" type of person. Most of these accusers are found to be liars.
I agree with everything you say until the last sentence. Would love to see some evidence on that if possible. I dont think anyone here is trying to say he should go to prison but i think it makes sense for the mlb to take the course of action that they did and I wouldnt be upset to see his card to go
I thought we weren't required to provide evidence when making claims here? All kidding aside, There are several court cases where someone was even sentenced to prison, and then it became known that the accusers were lying.
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This cancel culture and keep my distance from anyone accused of anything is getting ridiculous. If he did do something that is to be determined, but just running away from anyone who's ever had a legal issue is dangerous. Imagine if you got accused of something and everyone just backed away because they were afraid you may have done something. Don't take this as me taking sides either way. He's innocent until proven guilty. That's what the law says, that's what I agree with.
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@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@formallyforearms said in Roberto alomar:
The best defensive 2B I have seen, and a great all around player.
Considering allegations that he beat his first wife, and the spitting in the face of the umpire incident, I'm sure with the latest allegation that he will no longer be in the game anymore, and I would say rightly so.
You’re right. Guilty until proven innocent!
MLB did an investigation and found evidence to warrant their decision. try again
Allegations. Try again. The MLB is a private organization and can do whatever they want. Try again.
what even is the point youre trying to make? MLB decided they didnt want him apart of their business anymore and they banned him. Banned players dont get cards. the card thats in the game will most likely be the last alomar card you will ever see in the game. no one is saying hes 100% guilty here but MLB apparently was given enough evidence by the investigators they hired
I'll iterate this a bit more for you. The MLB is a private org, and they can do whatever they want with whomever they want. That's why they have the MLBPA. My point is that just because the MLB does something, doesn't make him guilty on all charges. I'm more of a "let's her both sides of the story" type of person. Most of these accusers are found to be liars.
You believe most accusers are liars? Wow. Most, huh?
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@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@skoalface1823_xbl said in Roberto alomar:
@formallyforearms said in Roberto alomar:
The best defensive 2B I have seen, and a great all around player.
Considering allegations that he beat his first wife, and the spitting in the face of the umpire incident, I'm sure with the latest allegation that he will no longer be in the game anymore, and I would say rightly so.
You’re right. Guilty until proven innocent!
MLB did an investigation and found evidence to warrant their decision. try again
Allegations. Try again. The MLB is a private organization and can do whatever they want. Try again.
what even is the point youre trying to make? MLB decided they didnt want him apart of their business anymore and they banned him. Banned players dont get cards. the card thats in the game will most likely be the last alomar card you will ever see in the game. no one is saying hes 100% guilty here but MLB apparently was given enough evidence by the investigators they hired
I'll iterate this a bit more for you. The MLB is a private org, and they can do whatever they want with whomever they want. That's why they have the MLBPA. My point is that just because the MLB does something, doesn't make him guilty on all charges. I'm more of a "let's her both sides of the story" type of person. Most of these accusers are found to be liars.
I agree with everything you say until the last sentence. Would love to see some evidence on that if possible. I dont think anyone here is trying to say he should go to prison but i think it makes sense for the mlb to take the course of action that they did and I wouldnt be upset to see his card to go
I thought we weren't required to provide evidence when making claims here? All kidding aside, There are several court cases where someone was even sentenced to prison, and then it became known that the accusers were lying.
thats too big of a generalization to make. Just bc court cases have gotten overturned in the past doesnt mean that any allegation afterwards is automatically false.
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The guy just said several court cases have been overturned. He didn't say a bunch of accuser's lied or that it happens all the time. If you don't agree with what someone says that your right, but you don't get to put words in someone else's mouth.
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@gutpunch411_psn said in Roberto alomar:
The guy just said several court cases have been overturned. He didn't say a bunch of accuser's lied or that it happens all the time. If you don't agree with what someone says that your right, but you don't get to put words in someone else's mouth.
his exact words were "most of these accusers are found to be liars". I didnt put anything in his mouth
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@gutpunch411_psn said in Roberto alomar:
The guy just said several court cases have been overturned. He didn't say a bunch of accuser's lied or that it happens all the time. If you don't agree with what someone says that your right, but you don't get to put words in someone else's mouth.
He said that "most of these accusers are found to be liars".
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@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@gutpunch411_psn said in Roberto alomar:
The guy just said several court cases have been overturned. He didn't say a bunch of accuser's lied or that it happens all the time. If you don't agree with what someone says that your right, but you don't get to put words in someone else's mouth.
his exact words were "most of these accusers are found to be liars". I didnt put anything in his mouth and the statement is so far from the truth. and then people ask why people dont come forward immediately. maybe bc people think this statement is true
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@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@gutpunch411_psn said in Roberto alomar:
The guy just said several court cases have been overturned. He didn't say a bunch of accuser's lied or that it happens all the time. If you don't agree with what someone says that your right, but you don't get to put words in someone else's mouth.
his exact words were "most of these accusers are found to be liars". I didnt put anything in his mouth
Yeah I guess he did in the first one. Well that's a bit extreme. I get what he was trying to say but saying most isn't true. I didn't see the post you are referring, until I went back through. My bad.
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@gutpunch411_psn said in Roberto alomar:
@ny_giants4_life said in Roberto alomar:
@gutpunch411_psn said in Roberto alomar:
The guy just said several court cases have been overturned. He didn't say a bunch of accuser's lied or that it happens all the time. If you don't agree with what someone says that your right, but you don't get to put words in someone else's mouth.
his exact words were "most of these accusers are found to be liars". I didnt put anything in his mouth
Yeah I guess he did in the first one. Well that's a bit extreme. I get what he was trying to say but saying most isn't true. I didn't see the post you are referring, until I went back through. My bad.
its all good my dude. its a long thread lol
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Yeah I just get worked up when people start taking sides on serious legal matters. I've seen people's lives get pretty much ruined from accusations and then on the other side I've seen people get away with some pretty bad stuff.
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More sad is how ppl around these types of guys/girls let them be that way. Encourage it almost and don’t say anything. I don’t care how things were different back then. Being a gross scumbag is being a gross scumbag and if you know he/she is one and you allow them to be then your a scumbag too.
I’ve been in sales/retail/management for 25 yrs and trust me you know who those guys and girls are! It’s not a secret
