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Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?

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    @zfree1122_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @ikasnu_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @zfree1122_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    Tbh I think defensive ratings for shortstops in this game are dumb. Baez isn't a 99 fielder, neither is Lindor tbh. No way cover boy should be 94 speed and he's literally the worst defender in baseball this year.

    Actually Tatis's speed is pretty accurate. Same for Trevor, he's slowed down a bit this season so far.

    Put Tatis in a foot race with Acuña and then tell me he deserves 5 higher speed.

    Baseball Savant sprint speed bro.

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    @ikasnu_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @zfree1122_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @ikasnu_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @zfree1122_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    Tbh I think defensive ratings for shortstops in this game are dumb. Baez isn't a 99 fielder, neither is Lindor tbh. No way cover boy should be 94 speed and he's literally the worst defender in baseball this year.

    Actually Tatis's speed is pretty accurate. Same for Trevor, he's slowed down a bit this season so far.

    Put Tatis in a foot race with Acuña and then tell me he deserves 5 higher speed.

    Baseball Savant sprint speed bro.

    Which literally for both this year and last year places him behind Acuña.

    Also that doesn't explain the jump from 88 last year for Tatis to 94 this year. His sprint speed hasnt gone up, its actually gone down by .2. They just gotta boost the cover boy and bonus that its a player for SAN DIEGO. Just wish they'd update everything, not just the cover boy.

    Acuña is still listed as a CF.

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    @zfree1122_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @ikasnu_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @zfree1122_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @ikasnu_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @zfree1122_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    Tbh I think defensive ratings for shortstops in this game are dumb. Baez isn't a 99 fielder, neither is Lindor tbh. No way cover boy should be 94 speed and he's literally the worst defender in baseball this year.

    Actually Tatis's speed is pretty accurate. Same for Trevor, he's slowed down a bit this season so far.

    Put Tatis in a foot race with Acuña and then tell me he deserves 5 higher speed.

    Baseball Savant sprint speed bro.

    Which literally for both this year and last year places him behind Acuña.

    Also that doesn't explain the jump from 88 last year for Tatis to 94 this year. His sprint speed hasnt gone up, its actually gone down by .2. They just gotta boost the cover boy and bonus that its a player for SAN DIEGO. Just wish they'd update everything, not just the cover boy.

    Acuña is still listed as a CF.

    Ahhhh thats a good point. Dude who knows how they rate these attributes lol. I really wish they'd release the algorithm they use, but I also imagine if they did that we would have a lot of incorrect attributes for players.

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    Defensive statistics are still in their infancy in being able to successfully gauge players, especially those that end up playing multiple positions.

    (I keep going back to Acuña for my examples because I'm a Braves fan, but im sure theres examples everywhere.)

    Acuña grades much better as a corner OF playing primarily in right with his cannon arm, prior to this year he played a lot of innings in CF because we needed him to. This year we added Pache to the roster and he's been touted as mini-Andruw, so Ronald finds his home in RF.

    SDS still lists him as CF, Pache is in right when you play the Braves CPU.

    Acuña has hit in the lead off spot since early 2019.

    He hits 3rd or 4th when you play vs the Braves CPU.

    Like its just basic stuff that bother me like that. I know most line ups are kinda fluid but the dude literally leads baseball in lead off HR's over the last 3 years.

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    @zfree1122_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    Tbh I think defensive ratings for shortstops in this game are dumb. Baez isn't a 99 fielder, neither is Lindor tbh. No way cover boy should be 94 speed and he's literally the worst defender in baseball this year.

    And giving Banks diamond D with his bat is so OP for this time of year.

    Gleyber is the worst

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    @mikerobo33_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @zfree1122_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    Tbh I think defensive ratings for shortstops in this game are dumb. Baez isn't a 99 fielder, neither is Lindor tbh. No way cover boy should be 94 speed and he's literally the worst defender in baseball this year.

    And giving Banks diamond D with his bat is so OP for this time of year.

    Gleyber is the worst

    Tatis has 9 errors in 15 games.

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    Tell my why lindor has the same fielding as tatis? Lindor is so disrespected with his defense and speed

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    @dahbeers_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    Tell my why lindor has the same fielding as tatis? Lindor is so disrespected with his defense and speed

    Fielding yes, but Lindor is actually not that fast

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    I mean there are guys rated higher than last years NL MVP so should really tell you everything you need to know.

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    @jeezy-e_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    I mean there are guys rated higher than last years NL MVP so should really tell you everything you need to know.

    Even Freddie's Finest card wasn't good, dude gets no respect.

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    @dahbeers_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    Tell my why lindor has the same fielding as tatis? Lindor is so disrespected with his defense and speed

    Lindor's sprint speed is equal to Juan Sotos this year.

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    @zfree1122_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @jeezy-e_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    I mean there are guys rated higher than last years NL MVP so should really tell you everything you need to know.

    Even Freddie's Finest card wasn't good, dude gets no respect.

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    @the_dragon1912 said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @dahbeers_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    Tell my why lindor has the same fielding as tatis? Lindor is so disrespected with his defense and speed

    Fielding yes, but Lindor is actually not that fast

    He consistently gets 15-20 steals in full seasons (I know steals are not the best way to determine speed). His speed is the same or less than some catchers and first basemen who steal >5 bags a year

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    @zfree1122_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

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    Tell my why lindor has the same fielding as tatis? Lindor is so disrespected with his defense and speed

    Lindor's sprint speed is equal to Juan Sotos this year.

    Soto also was brutally disrespected with speed and defense. They just did not want him to be higher overall without compromising hitting stats.

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    @dahbeers_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

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    @dahbeers_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    Tell my why lindor has the same fielding as tatis? Lindor is so disrespected with his defense and speed

    Fielding yes, but Lindor is actually not that fast

    He consistently gets 15-20 steals in full seasons (I know steals are not the best way to determine speed). His speed is the same or less than some catchers and first basemen who steal >5 bags a year

    They mostly base speed ratings on statcast sprint speed, which Lindor doesn't fare well in. While there are certainly some ratings I don't agree with, Lindor's speed rating is not one of them

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    They go by defensive metrics and it looks like story was great in 2019, but otherwise he's been more good than great defensively. They're slow to update defensive attributes but if he's fielding really well after a few months maybe he'll be upgraded

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    While we are at it why if Freeman silver fielding? The only reason I can guess is so people dont play him at 3rd more.

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    @the_dragon1912 said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @dahbeers_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @dahbeers_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    Tell my why lindor has the same fielding as tatis? Lindor is so disrespected with his defense and speed

    Fielding yes, but Lindor is actually not that fast

    He consistently gets 15-20 steals in full seasons (I know steals are not the best way to determine speed). His speed is the same or less than some catchers and first basemen who steal >5 bags a year

    They mostly base speed ratings on statcast sprint speed, which Lindor doesn't fare well in. While there are certainly some ratings I don't agree with, Lindor's speed rating is not one of them

    Yeah I know, but the consistency still is not there. Trout and Ohtani have higher sprint speeds than Buxton and Tatis, but much slower in game. Plus it does not translate in game. You can't steal with guys that slow.

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    @dahbeers_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @dahbeers_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @dahbeers_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    Tell my why lindor has the same fielding as tatis? Lindor is so disrespected with his defense and speed

    Fielding yes, but Lindor is actually not that fast

    He consistently gets 15-20 steals in full seasons (I know steals are not the best way to determine speed). His speed is the same or less than some catchers and first basemen who steal >5 bags a year

    They mostly base speed ratings on statcast sprint speed, which Lindor doesn't fare well in. While there are certainly some ratings I don't agree with, Lindor's speed rating is not one of them

    Yeah I know, but the consistency still is not there. Trout and Ohtani have higher sprint speeds than Buxton and Tatis, but much slower in game. Plus it does not translate in game. You can't steal with guys that slow.

    Ohtani's speed rating is criminal. I get it, they don't want a pitcher with 90 speed, but Ohtani is one of the fastest players in the league.

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    @the_dragon1912 said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @dahbeers_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @dahbeers_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @the_dragon1912 said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    @dahbeers_psn said in Why does Trevor Story not have diamond fielding?:

    Tell my why lindor has the same fielding as tatis? Lindor is so disrespected with his defense and speed

    Fielding yes, but Lindor is actually not that fast

    He consistently gets 15-20 steals in full seasons (I know steals are not the best way to determine speed). His speed is the same or less than some catchers and first basemen who steal >5 bags a year

    They mostly base speed ratings on statcast sprint speed, which Lindor doesn't fare well in. While there are certainly some ratings I don't agree with, Lindor's speed rating is not one of them

    Yeah I know, but the consistency still is not there. Trout and Ohtani have higher sprint speeds than Buxton and Tatis, but much slower in game. Plus it does not translate in game. You can't steal with guys that slow.

    Ohtani's speed rating is criminal. I get it, they don't want a pitcher with 90 speed, but Ohtani is one of the fastest players in the league.

    I think they boost Ohtani a lot. Him and Tatis are the MLB social media poster boys

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