Cost of Tatis Jr.
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@Warpedzilla said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
So in the MA program, you get 7 non sellable Topps Now cards. That leaves 28 left that you have to lock into the collection. I realize that you get a boatload of them free in packs, but according to my math, the cost of you locking in those cards for Tatis and Castellanos is about 400K stubs.
That Tatis card looks dope, but is it worth it? How are y’all playing with his card so far? Really debating if I should lock in for him or take the stubs and run!On a related note, if you lock in those cards for collection can you still quick sell those diamonds for 5K?
I got 4 dupes from the MA program and only had 2 buy one from the market. And that's after selling 2 from the free packs weeks ago. Unless you have sold every card from these free topps packs you shouldn't have to spend anymore than 40k or so.
I got the Tatis card for free, I did all the moments and the mission I did not sell any of the previous cards needed. 0 stubs spent to get Tatis.
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Yeah I sold a few of the high priced ones that I bought when the prices were about 7-9k. Rosario I sold for 20k so an easy 10k profit. I had 4 Gioletto which I wish I had not sold when I saw his market tanking cause now he is going for 14k. I had most of them from buying them on the market so any of the ones that I don't have I pick up in the packs and sell the ones I do have. I made about 100k this weekend just selling the cards I got in the packs. I even pulled a Diamond out of the twitch pack. Saw NL starting pitcher and was thinking holy [censored] I got Degrom or Scherzer. Womp Womp forgot Lugo went Diamond and was now a SP
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@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
Ok here is the math plain and simple so pay attention. You get 13 total tops now cards from completing the moments. Everyone had the opportunity to get a free Lucas Giolito. Now you’re up to 14. Everyone had the opportunity to collect Amir Garrett at the beginning of the season so now we’re at 15. When the POTM program launched guess what guys they duplicated your tops now packs from the whole month. So now you have 13 additional tops now cards bringing your total to 28. Add in the 7 POTM cards in the program and you’ve collected 35 cards which oddly enough is exactly what you needed for the collection. Guess what, Tatis could be had for free. No investment what so ever. Now if you choose to sell those cards as you get them, well that’s on you and you can play with garbage SS for the remainder of the games lifecycle. Yes Tatis is worth every stub you spend but he could’ve been had for free if you were patient.
You are misunderstanding the question. Not sure why you assume I haven’t been “patient”, but I’ve completed all the moments and programs to claim Tatis for “free”, just like yourself. But Tatis is NOT free. The opportunity cost of locking in those “free” SELLABLE Topps Now cards is about 400K right now. The question is Tatis worth it?
Put it to ya this way. If someone gave you 200K and suggested you buy a Ferrari, that’s not a free Ferrari. You could’ve spent that on anything you wanted. For instance, instead of locking in that 400K worth of Topps Now cards for Tatis, I could use that to buy a “free” 99 Sale AND 99 Scherzer for my rotation.
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@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
Ok here is the math plain and simple so pay attention. You get 13 total tops now cards from completing the moments. Everyone had the opportunity to get a free Lucas Giolito. Now you’re up to 14. Everyone had the opportunity to collect Amir Garrett at the beginning of the season so now we’re at 15. When the POTM program launched guess what guys they duplicated your tops now packs from the whole month. So now you have 13 additional tops now cards bringing your total to 28. Add in the 7 POTM cards in the program and you’ve collected 35 cards which oddly enough is exactly what you needed for the collection. Guess what, Tatis could be had for free. No investment what so ever. Now if you choose to sell those cards as you get them, well that’s on you and you can play with garbage SS for the remainder of the games lifecycle. Yes Tatis is worth every stub you spend but he could’ve been had for free if you were patient.
You are misunderstanding the question. Not sure why you assume I haven’t been “patient”, but I’ve completed all the moments and programs to claim Tatis for “free”, just like yourself. But Tatis is NOT free. The opportunity cost of locking in those “free” SELLABLE Topps Now cards is about 400K right now. The question is Tatis worth it?
Put it to ya this way. If someone gave you 200K and suggested you buy a Ferrari, that’s not a free Ferrari. You could’ve spent that on anything you wanted. For instance, instead of locking in that 400K worth of Topps Now cards for Tatis, I could use that to buy a “free” 99 Sale AND 99 Scherzer for my rotation.
I believe you have misunderstood what I’ve been saying. Not only did I not have to invest in Tatis, I ultimately got a return of 400k stubs back for a 200k profit because I not only locked in the 35 needed cards but also bought the rest of them then I turn around and flip the duplicates from the program and the extras I didn’t need to complete the collection. So is Tatis worth it in the scenario that I’ve been saying the whole time? Yes is my answer and he’s worth every stub spent even if I didn’t completely manipulate the market for a huge payday.
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@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
Ok here is the math plain and simple so pay attention. You get 13 total tops now cards from completing the moments. Everyone had the opportunity to get a free Lucas Giolito. Now you’re up to 14. Everyone had the opportunity to collect Amir Garrett at the beginning of the season so now we’re at 15. When the POTM program launched guess what guys they duplicated your tops now packs from the whole month. So now you have 13 additional tops now cards bringing your total to 28. Add in the 7 POTM cards in the program and you’ve collected 35 cards which oddly enough is exactly what you needed for the collection. Guess what, Tatis could be had for free. No investment what so ever. Now if you choose to sell those cards as you get them, well that’s on you and you can play with garbage SS for the remainder of the games lifecycle. Yes Tatis is worth every stub you spend but he could’ve been had for free if you were patient.
You are misunderstanding the question. Not sure why you assume I haven’t been “patient”, but I’ve completed all the moments and programs to claim Tatis for “free”, just like yourself. But Tatis is NOT free. The opportunity cost of locking in those “free” SELLABLE Topps Now cards is about 400K right now. The question is Tatis worth it?
Put it to ya this way. If someone gave you 200K and suggested you buy a Ferrari, that’s not a free Ferrari. You could’ve spent that on anything you wanted. For instance, instead of locking in that 400K worth of Topps Now cards for Tatis, I could use that to buy a “free” 99 Sale AND 99 Scherzer for my rotation.
I believe you have misunderstood what I’ve been saying. Not only did I not have to invest in Tatis, I ultimately got a return of 400k stubs back for a 200k profit because I not only locked in the 35 needed cards but also bought the rest of them then I turn around and flip the duplicates from the program and the extras I didn’t need to complete the collection. So is Tatis worth it in the scenario that I’ve been saying the whole time? Yes is my answer and he’s worth every stub spent even if I didn’t completely manipulate the market for a huge payday.
You investing in Topps Now cards and making profits is irrelevant, though. No matter how many stubs you have or have made, the bottom line is when you lock in those cards you are basically paying 400K for Tatis.
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@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
Ok here is the math plain and simple so pay attention. You get 13 total tops now cards from completing the moments. Everyone had the opportunity to get a free Lucas Giolito. Now you’re up to 14. Everyone had the opportunity to collect Amir Garrett at the beginning of the season so now we’re at 15. When the POTM program launched guess what guys they duplicated your tops now packs from the whole month. So now you have 13 additional tops now cards bringing your total to 28. Add in the 7 POTM cards in the program and you’ve collected 35 cards which oddly enough is exactly what you needed for the collection. Guess what, Tatis could be had for free. No investment what so ever. Now if you choose to sell those cards as you get them, well that’s on you and you can play with garbage SS for the remainder of the games lifecycle. Yes Tatis is worth every stub you spend but he could’ve been had for free if you were patient.
You are misunderstanding the question. Not sure why you assume I haven’t been “patient”, but I’ve completed all the moments and programs to claim Tatis for “free”, just like yourself. But Tatis is NOT free. The opportunity cost of locking in those “free” SELLABLE Topps Now cards is about 400K right now. The question is Tatis worth it?
Put it to ya this way. If someone gave you 200K and suggested you buy a Ferrari, that’s not a free Ferrari. You could’ve spent that on anything you wanted. For instance, instead of locking in that 400K worth of Topps Now cards for Tatis, I could use that to buy a “free” 99 Sale AND 99 Scherzer for my rotation.
I believe you have misunderstood what I’ve been saying. Not only did I not have to invest in Tatis, I ultimately got a return of 400k stubs back for a 200k profit because I not only locked in the 35 needed cards but also bought the rest of them then I turn around and flip the duplicates from the program and the extras I didn’t need to complete the collection. So is Tatis worth it in the scenario that I’ve been saying the whole time? Yes is my answer and he’s worth every stub spent even if I didn’t completely manipulate the market for a huge payday.
You investing in Topps Now cards and making profits is irrelevant, though. No matter how many stubs you have or have made, the bottom line is when you lock in those cards you are basically paying 400K for Tatis.
You failed economics didn’t you? Every sellable card has intrinsic value. However if you didn’t pay for the card than NO you haven’t paid for the card. That intrinsic value is then profit similar to how You gain equity in a home. If you choose to sell the TN cards rather than lock them in then yes you pay 400k for Tatis. But for someone who does not sell free cards (because as stated earlier each sellable card has intrinsic value) than you have bought nothing and only hold the profit of that card in equity. It’s simple market economics. It’s not difficult to understand and you telling me I spent 400k for Tatis is not accurate and makes others question if you have the intellect to understand the subject with which you’re arguing. Please don’t reply back unless you can grasp the real argument being made.
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@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
Ok here is the math plain and simple so pay attention. You get 13 total tops now cards from completing the moments. Everyone had the opportunity to get a free Lucas Giolito. Now you’re up to 14. Everyone had the opportunity to collect Amir Garrett at the beginning of the season so now we’re at 15. When the POTM program launched guess what guys they duplicated your tops now packs from the whole month. So now you have 13 additional tops now cards bringing your total to 28. Add in the 7 POTM cards in the program and you’ve collected 35 cards which oddly enough is exactly what you needed for the collection. Guess what, Tatis could be had for free. No investment what so ever. Now if you choose to sell those cards as you get them, well that’s on you and you can play with garbage SS for the remainder of the games lifecycle. Yes Tatis is worth every stub you spend but he could’ve been had for free if you were patient.
Why you dumping on Trea Turner, Ernie Banks, Robin Yount, Jimmy Rollins? Like they say, one man's trash is another man's treasure.
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@JoeTheGamePlayer said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
Ok here is the math plain and simple so pay attention. You get 13 total tops now cards from completing the moments. Everyone had the opportunity to get a free Lucas Giolito. Now you’re up to 14. Everyone had the opportunity to collect Amir Garrett at the beginning of the season so now we’re at 15. When the POTM program launched guess what guys they duplicated your tops now packs from the whole month. So now you have 13 additional tops now cards bringing your total to 28. Add in the 7 POTM cards in the program and you’ve collected 35 cards which oddly enough is exactly what you needed for the collection. Guess what, Tatis could be had for free. No investment what so ever. Now if you choose to sell those cards as you get them, well that’s on you and you can play with garbage SS for the remainder of the games lifecycle. Yes Tatis is worth every stub you spend but he could’ve been had for free if you were patient.
Why you dumping on Trea Turner, Ernie Banks, Robin Yount, Jimmy Rollins? Like they say, one man's trash is another man's treasure.
Im not dumping on anyone I’m giving this mental half wit an economics lesson. Those guys are good but not in the same league as that Tatis POTM card in my honest opinion
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@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
Ok here is the math plain and simple so pay attention. You get 13 total tops now cards from completing the moments. Everyone had the opportunity to get a free Lucas Giolito. Now you’re up to 14. Everyone had the opportunity to collect Amir Garrett at the beginning of the season so now we’re at 15. When the POTM program launched guess what guys they duplicated your tops now packs from the whole month. So now you have 13 additional tops now cards bringing your total to 28. Add in the 7 POTM cards in the program and you’ve collected 35 cards which oddly enough is exactly what you needed for the collection. Guess what, Tatis could be had for free. No investment what so ever. Now if you choose to sell those cards as you get them, well that’s on you and you can play with garbage SS for the remainder of the games lifecycle. Yes Tatis is worth every stub you spend but he could’ve been had for free if you were patient.
You are misunderstanding the question. Not sure why you assume I haven’t been “patient”, but I’ve completed all the moments and programs to claim Tatis for “free”, just like yourself. But Tatis is NOT free. The opportunity cost of locking in those “free” SELLABLE Topps Now cards is about 400K right now. The question is Tatis worth it?
Put it to ya this way. If someone gave you 200K and suggested you buy a Ferrari, that’s not a free Ferrari. You could’ve spent that on anything you wanted. For instance, instead of locking in that 400K worth of Topps Now cards for Tatis, I could use that to buy a “free” 99 Sale AND 99 Scherzer for my rotation.
I believe you have misunderstood what I’ve been saying. Not only did I not have to invest in Tatis, I ultimately got a return of 400k stubs back for a 200k profit because I not only locked in the 35 needed cards but also bought the rest of them then I turn around and flip the duplicates from the program and the extras I didn’t need to complete the collection. So is Tatis worth it in the scenario that I’ve been saying the whole time? Yes is my answer and he’s worth every stub spent even if I didn’t completely manipulate the market for a huge payday.
You investing in Topps Now cards and making profits is irrelevant, though. No matter how many stubs you have or have made, the bottom line is when you lock in those cards you are basically paying 400K for Tatis.
You failed economics didn’t you? Every sellable card has intrinsic value. However if you didn’t pay for the card than NO you haven’t paid for the card. That intrinsic value is then profit similar to how You gain equity in a home. If you choose to sell the TN cards rather than lock them in then yes you pay 400k for Tatis. But for someone who does not sell free cards (because as stated earlier each sellable card has intrinsic value) than you have bought nothing and only hold the profit of that card in equity. It’s simple market economics. It’s not difficult to understand and you telling me I spent 400k for Tatis is not accurate and makes others question if you have the intellect to understand the subject with which you’re arguing. Please don’t reply back unless you can grasp the real argument being made.
Wow, you comfortable up there on your high horse? Not sure why you are so bitter, who hurt you, or why you get off on being a condescending [censored] on a video game forum. Wasn’t trying to start an argument, because there isn’t really an argument to be had. The value of the cards you have to lock in to get Tatis is 400K. It doesn’t matter if you got them for free or not, those cards hold that value and are sellable on the market for that amount. So the question is and still stands, who you rather have Tatis or sell those 28 cards for their market value and have an extra 400K stubs in your account to spend on whatever you please.
PS: Maybe ask your wife if she’ll put out a little more. Might help to lighten your mood.
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@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@JoeTheGamePlayer said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
Ok here is the math plain and simple so pay attention. You get 13 total tops now cards from completing the moments. Everyone had the opportunity to get a free Lucas Giolito. Now you’re up to 14. Everyone had the opportunity to collect Amir Garrett at the beginning of the season so now we’re at 15. When the POTM program launched guess what guys they duplicated your tops now packs from the whole month. So now you have 13 additional tops now cards bringing your total to 28. Add in the 7 POTM cards in the program and you’ve collected 35 cards which oddly enough is exactly what you needed for the collection. Guess what, Tatis could be had for free. No investment what so ever. Now if you choose to sell those cards as you get them, well that’s on you and you can play with garbage SS for the remainder of the games lifecycle. Yes Tatis is worth every stub you spend but he could’ve been had for free if you were patient.
Why you dumping on Trea Turner, Ernie Banks, Robin Yount, Jimmy Rollins? Like they say, one man's trash is another man's treasure.
Im not dumping on anyone I’m giving this mental half wit an economics lesson. Those guys are good but not in the same league as that Tatis POTM card in my honest opinion
You're actually right which sucks for me since I went through the torture of prestiging Rollins. Tatis leapfrogged everyone at Short...Which teaches me a valuable lesson in prestiging...why bother when the card is pretty much outdated by the time you're done. Sigh.
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@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
Ok here is the math plain and simple so pay attention. You get 13 total tops now cards from completing the moments. Everyone had the opportunity to get a free Lucas Giolito. Now you’re up to 14. Everyone had the opportunity to collect Amir Garrett at the beginning of the season so now we’re at 15. When the POTM program launched guess what guys they duplicated your tops now packs from the whole month. So now you have 13 additional tops now cards bringing your total to 28. Add in the 7 POTM cards in the program and you’ve collected 35 cards which oddly enough is exactly what you needed for the collection. Guess what, Tatis could be had for free. No investment what so ever. Now if you choose to sell those cards as you get them, well that’s on you and you can play with garbage SS for the remainder of the games lifecycle. Yes Tatis is worth every stub you spend but he could’ve been had for free if you were patient.
You are misunderstanding the question. Not sure why you assume I haven’t been “patient”, but I’ve completed all the moments and programs to claim Tatis for “free”, just like yourself. But Tatis is NOT free. The opportunity cost of locking in those “free” SELLABLE Topps Now cards is about 400K right now. The question is Tatis worth it?
Put it to ya this way. If someone gave you 200K and suggested you buy a Ferrari, that’s not a free Ferrari. You could’ve spent that on anything you wanted. For instance, instead of locking in that 400K worth of Topps Now cards for Tatis, I could use that to buy a “free” 99 Sale AND 99 Scherzer for my rotation.
I believe you have misunderstood what I’ve been saying. Not only did I not have to invest in Tatis, I ultimately got a return of 400k stubs back for a 200k profit because I not only locked in the 35 needed cards but also bought the rest of them then I turn around and flip the duplicates from the program and the extras I didn’t need to complete the collection. So is Tatis worth it in the scenario that I’ve been saying the whole time? Yes is my answer and he’s worth every stub spent even if I didn’t completely manipulate the market for a huge payday.
You investing in Topps Now cards and making profits is irrelevant, though. No matter how many stubs you have or have made, the bottom line is when you lock in those cards you are basically paying 400K for Tatis.
You failed economics didn’t you? Every sellable card has intrinsic value. However if you didn’t pay for the card than NO you haven’t paid for the card. That intrinsic value is then profit similar to how You gain equity in a home. If you choose to sell the TN cards rather than lock them in then yes you pay 400k for Tatis. But for someone who does not sell free cards (because as stated earlier each sellable card has intrinsic value) than you have bought nothing and only hold the profit of that card in equity. It’s simple market economics. It’s not difficult to understand and you telling me I spent 400k for Tatis is not accurate and makes others question if you have the intellect to understand the subject with which you’re arguing. Please don’t reply back unless you can grasp the real argument being made.
Why do you have to be so condescending? The person was having a rational discussion, and didnt make it personal with you. I'm unsure why you feel the need to make it personal and act condescending in this matter toward them.
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@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
Ok here is the math plain and simple so pay attention. You get 13 total tops now cards from completing the moments. Everyone had the opportunity to get a free Lucas Giolito. Now you’re up to 14. Everyone had the opportunity to collect Amir Garrett at the beginning of the season so now we’re at 15. When the POTM program launched guess what guys they duplicated your tops now packs from the whole month. So now you have 13 additional tops now cards bringing your total to 28. Add in the 7 POTM cards in the program and you’ve collected 35 cards which oddly enough is exactly what you needed for the collection. Guess what, Tatis could be had for free. No investment what so ever. Now if you choose to sell those cards as you get them, well that’s on you and you can play with garbage SS for the remainder of the games lifecycle. Yes Tatis is worth every stub you spend but he could’ve been had for free if you were patient.
You are misunderstanding the question. Not sure why you assume I haven’t been “patient”, but I’ve completed all the moments and programs to claim Tatis for “free”, just like yourself. But Tatis is NOT free. The opportunity cost of locking in those “free” SELLABLE Topps Now cards is about 400K right now. The question is Tatis worth it?
Put it to ya this way. If someone gave you 200K and suggested you buy a Ferrari, that’s not a free Ferrari. You could’ve spent that on anything you wanted. For instance, instead of locking in that 400K worth of Topps Now cards for Tatis, I could use that to buy a “free” 99 Sale AND 99 Scherzer for my rotation.
I believe you have misunderstood what I’ve been saying. Not only did I not have to invest in Tatis, I ultimately got a return of 400k stubs back for a 200k profit because I not only locked in the 35 needed cards but also bought the rest of them then I turn around and flip the duplicates from the program and the extras I didn’t need to complete the collection. So is Tatis worth it in the scenario that I’ve been saying the whole time? Yes is my answer and he’s worth every stub spent even if I didn’t completely manipulate the market for a huge payday.
You investing in Topps Now cards and making profits is irrelevant, though. No matter how many stubs you have or have made, the bottom line is when you lock in those cards you are basically paying 400K for Tatis.
You failed economics didn’t you? Every sellable card has intrinsic value. However if you didn’t pay for the card than NO you haven’t paid for the card. That intrinsic value is then profit similar to how You gain equity in a home. If you choose to sell the TN cards rather than lock them in then yes you pay 400k for Tatis. But for someone who does not sell free cards (because as stated earlier each sellable card has intrinsic value) than you have bought nothing and only hold the profit of that card in equity. It’s simple market economics. It’s not difficult to understand and you telling me I spent 400k for Tatis is not accurate and makes others question if you have the intellect to understand the subject with which you’re arguing. Please don’t reply back unless you can grasp the real argument being made.
Wow, you comfortable up there on your high horse? Not sure why you are so bitter, who hurt you, or why you get off on being a condescending [censored] on a video game forum. Wasn’t trying to start an argument, because there isn’t really an argument to be had. The value of the cards you have to lock in to get Tatis is 400K. It doesn’t matter if you got them for free or not, those cards hold that value and are sellable on the market for that amount. So the question is and still stands, who you rather have Tatis or sell those 28 cards for their market value and have an extra 400K stubs in your account to spend on whatever you please.
PS: Maybe ask your wife if she’ll put out a little more. Might help to lighten your mood.
Dude, that is what intrinsic value is!!!!!!!!!!! The value something has in and of itself!!!!!!!!!! You keep saying I paid 400k, which is 100% inaccurate. I paid zero for them. Those cards are straight equity. Who gives a rats a s s what their value is. That literally changes from minute to minute. What doesn’t change is the manner in which I obtained those cards. Simply put I did not purchase Tatis for a single stub I actually profited from his Program. That’s it!!!!!
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@formallyforearms said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
Ok here is the math plain and simple so pay attention. You get 13 total tops now cards from completing the moments. Everyone had the opportunity to get a free Lucas Giolito. Now you’re up to 14. Everyone had the opportunity to collect Amir Garrett at the beginning of the season so now we’re at 15. When the POTM program launched guess what guys they duplicated your tops now packs from the whole month. So now you have 13 additional tops now cards bringing your total to 28. Add in the 7 POTM cards in the program and you’ve collected 35 cards which oddly enough is exactly what you needed for the collection. Guess what, Tatis could be had for free. No investment what so ever. Now if you choose to sell those cards as you get them, well that’s on you and you can play with garbage SS for the remainder of the games lifecycle. Yes Tatis is worth every stub you spend but he could’ve been had for free if you were patient.
You are misunderstanding the question. Not sure why you assume I haven’t been “patient”, but I’ve completed all the moments and programs to claim Tatis for “free”, just like yourself. But Tatis is NOT free. The opportunity cost of locking in those “free” SELLABLE Topps Now cards is about 400K right now. The question is Tatis worth it?
Put it to ya this way. If someone gave you 200K and suggested you buy a Ferrari, that’s not a free Ferrari. You could’ve spent that on anything you wanted. For instance, instead of locking in that 400K worth of Topps Now cards for Tatis, I could use that to buy a “free” 99 Sale AND 99 Scherzer for my rotation.
I believe you have misunderstood what I’ve been saying. Not only did I not have to invest in Tatis, I ultimately got a return of 400k stubs back for a 200k profit because I not only locked in the 35 needed cards but also bought the rest of them then I turn around and flip the duplicates from the program and the extras I didn’t need to complete the collection. So is Tatis worth it in the scenario that I’ve been saying the whole time? Yes is my answer and he’s worth every stub spent even if I didn’t completely manipulate the market for a huge payday.
You investing in Topps Now cards and making profits is irrelevant, though. No matter how many stubs you have or have made, the bottom line is when you lock in those cards you are basically paying 400K for Tatis.
You failed economics didn’t you? Every sellable card has intrinsic value. However if you didn’t pay for the card than NO you haven’t paid for the card. That intrinsic value is then profit similar to how You gain equity in a home. If you choose to sell the TN cards rather than lock them in then yes you pay 400k for Tatis. But for someone who does not sell free cards (because as stated earlier each sellable card has intrinsic value) than you have bought nothing and only hold the profit of that card in equity. It’s simple market economics. It’s not difficult to understand and you telling me I spent 400k for Tatis is not accurate and makes others question if you have the intellect to understand the subject with which you’re arguing. Please don’t reply back unless you can grasp the real argument being made.
Why do you have to be so condescending? The person was having a rational discussion, and didnt make it personal with you. I'm unsure why you feel the need to make it personal and act condescending in this matter toward them.
Are you my mother???? No, so move on.
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@Jeviduty said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@JoeTheGamePlayer said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
Ok here is the math plain and simple so pay attention. You get 13 total tops now cards from completing the moments. Everyone had the opportunity to get a free Lucas Giolito. Now you’re up to 14. Everyone had the opportunity to collect Amir Garrett at the beginning of the season so now we’re at 15. When the POTM program launched guess what guys they duplicated your tops now packs from the whole month. So now you have 13 additional tops now cards bringing your total to 28. Add in the 7 POTM cards in the program and you’ve collected 35 cards which oddly enough is exactly what you needed for the collection. Guess what, Tatis could be had for free. No investment what so ever. Now if you choose to sell those cards as you get them, well that’s on you and you can play with garbage SS for the remainder of the games lifecycle. Yes Tatis is worth every stub you spend but he could’ve been had for free if you were patient.
Why you dumping on Trea Turner, Ernie Banks, Robin Yount, Jimmy Rollins? Like they say, one man's trash is another man's treasure.
Im not dumping on anyone I’m giving this mental half wit an economics lesson. Those guys are good but not in the same league as that Tatis POTM card in my honest opinion
You're actually right which sucks for me since I went through the torture of prestiging Rollins. Tatis leapfrogged everyone at Short...Which teaches me a valuable lesson in prestiging...why bother when the card is pretty much outdated by the time you're done. Sigh.
Sorry for the tedious posts on this matter but some people are clearly not capable of understanding the market especially for this particular program. I guess to me it seems as elementary as single digit addition but to others they get lost in the semantics of it all.
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@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@Jeviduty said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@JoeTheGamePlayer said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
Ok here is the math plain and simple so pay attention. You get 13 total tops now cards from completing the moments. Everyone had the opportunity to get a free Lucas Giolito. Now you’re up to 14. Everyone had the opportunity to collect Amir Garrett at the beginning of the season so now we’re at 15. When the POTM program launched guess what guys they duplicated your tops now packs from the whole month. So now you have 13 additional tops now cards bringing your total to 28. Add in the 7 POTM cards in the program and you’ve collected 35 cards which oddly enough is exactly what you needed for the collection. Guess what, Tatis could be had for free. No investment what so ever. Now if you choose to sell those cards as you get them, well that’s on you and you can play with garbage SS for the remainder of the games lifecycle. Yes Tatis is worth every stub you spend but he could’ve been had for free if you were patient.
Why you dumping on Trea Turner, Ernie Banks, Robin Yount, Jimmy Rollins? Like they say, one man's trash is another man's treasure.
Im not dumping on anyone I’m giving this mental half wit an economics lesson. Those guys are good but not in the same league as that Tatis POTM card in my honest opinion
You're actually right which sucks for me since I went through the torture of prestiging Rollins. Tatis leapfrogged everyone at Short...Which teaches me a valuable lesson in prestiging...why bother when the card is pretty much outdated by the time you're done. Sigh.
Sorry for the tedious posts on this matter but some people are clearly not capable of understanding the market especially for this particular program. I guess to me it seems as elementary as single digit addition but to others they get lost in the semantics of it all.
Dude, you are thinking way too hard about this. I have all the cards necessary to get Tatis and have spent 0 stubs. I could do that, or sell all those cards for 400K stubs. That’s the question. It’s as simple as that. End of story.
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@formallyforearms said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
Ok here is the math plain and simple so pay attention. You get 13 total tops now cards from completing the moments. Everyone had the opportunity to get a free Lucas Giolito. Now you’re up to 14. Everyone had the opportunity to collect Amir Garrett at the beginning of the season so now we’re at 15. When the POTM program launched guess what guys they duplicated your tops now packs from the whole month. So now you have 13 additional tops now cards bringing your total to 28. Add in the 7 POTM cards in the program and you’ve collected 35 cards which oddly enough is exactly what you needed for the collection. Guess what, Tatis could be had for free. No investment what so ever. Now if you choose to sell those cards as you get them, well that’s on you and you can play with garbage SS for the remainder of the games lifecycle. Yes Tatis is worth every stub you spend but he could’ve been had for free if you were patient.
You are misunderstanding the question. Not sure why you assume I haven’t been “patient”, but I’ve completed all the moments and programs to claim Tatis for “free”, just like yourself. But Tatis is NOT free. The opportunity cost of locking in those “free” SELLABLE Topps Now cards is about 400K right now. The question is Tatis worth it?
Put it to ya this way. If someone gave you 200K and suggested you buy a Ferrari, that’s not a free Ferrari. You could’ve spent that on anything you wanted. For instance, instead of locking in that 400K worth of Topps Now cards for Tatis, I could use that to buy a “free” 99 Sale AND 99 Scherzer for my rotation.
I believe you have misunderstood what I’ve been saying. Not only did I not have to invest in Tatis, I ultimately got a return of 400k stubs back for a 200k profit because I not only locked in the 35 needed cards but also bought the rest of them then I turn around and flip the duplicates from the program and the extras I didn’t need to complete the collection. So is Tatis worth it in the scenario that I’ve been saying the whole time? Yes is my answer and he’s worth every stub spent even if I didn’t completely manipulate the market for a huge payday.
You investing in Topps Now cards and making profits is irrelevant, though. No matter how many stubs you have or have made, the bottom line is when you lock in those cards you are basically paying 400K for Tatis.
You failed economics didn’t you? Every sellable card has intrinsic value. However if you didn’t pay for the card than NO you haven’t paid for the card. That intrinsic value is then profit similar to how You gain equity in a home. If you choose to sell the TN cards rather than lock them in then yes you pay 400k for Tatis. But for someone who does not sell free cards (because as stated earlier each sellable card has intrinsic value) than you have bought nothing and only hold the profit of that card in equity. It’s simple market economics. It’s not difficult to understand and you telling me I spent 400k for Tatis is not accurate and makes others question if you have the intellect to understand the subject with which you’re arguing. Please don’t reply back unless you can grasp the real argument being made.
Why do you have to be so condescending? The person was having a rational discussion, and didnt make it personal with you. I'm unsure why you feel the need to make it personal and act condescending in this matter toward them.
Thank you.
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@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
Ok here is the math plain and simple so pay attention. You get 13 total tops now cards from completing the moments. Everyone had the opportunity to get a free Lucas Giolito. Now you’re up to 14. Everyone had the opportunity to collect Amir Garrett at the beginning of the season so now we’re at 15. When the POTM program launched guess what guys they duplicated your tops now packs from the whole month. So now you have 13 additional tops now cards bringing your total to 28. Add in the 7 POTM cards in the program and you’ve collected 35 cards which oddly enough is exactly what you needed for the collection. Guess what, Tatis could be had for free. No investment what so ever. Now if you choose to sell those cards as you get them, well that’s on you and you can play with garbage SS for the remainder of the games lifecycle. Yes Tatis is worth every stub you spend but he could’ve been had for free if you were patient.
You are misunderstanding the question. Not sure why you assume I haven’t been “patient”, but I’ve completed all the moments and programs to claim Tatis for “free”, just like yourself. But Tatis is NOT free. The opportunity cost of locking in those “free” SELLABLE Topps Now cards is about 400K right now. The question is Tatis worth it?
Put it to ya this way. If someone gave you 200K and suggested you buy a Ferrari, that’s not a free Ferrari. You could’ve spent that on anything you wanted. For instance, instead of locking in that 400K worth of Topps Now cards for Tatis, I could use that to buy a “free” 99 Sale AND 99 Scherzer for my rotation.
I believe you have misunderstood what I’ve been saying. Not only did I not have to invest in Tatis, I ultimately got a return of 400k stubs back for a 200k profit because I not only locked in the 35 needed cards but also bought the rest of them then I turn around and flip the duplicates from the program and the extras I didn’t need to complete the collection. So is Tatis worth it in the scenario that I’ve been saying the whole time? Yes is my answer and he’s worth every stub spent even if I didn’t completely manipulate the market for a huge payday.
You investing in Topps Now cards and making profits is irrelevant, though. No matter how many stubs you have or have made, the bottom line is when you lock in those cards you are basically paying 400K for Tatis.
Wrong you are not paying anything for him buy locking him in. From what you are saying we pay for every single card if we lock them into any collections instead of selling on the Market. I wonder how many stubs everyone loss from locking in cards. Any stubs I would have earned by selling those cards I can make up on the market. Some of us locked half those cards in for Trout and he is worth it. I spent 0 stubs on those cards so yeah I got Tatis for free. I just did not gain a profit.
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@dbarmonstar said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
Ok here is the math plain and simple so pay attention. You get 13 total tops now cards from completing the moments. Everyone had the opportunity to get a free Lucas Giolito. Now you’re up to 14. Everyone had the opportunity to collect Amir Garrett at the beginning of the season so now we’re at 15. When the POTM program launched guess what guys they duplicated your tops now packs from the whole month. So now you have 13 additional tops now cards bringing your total to 28. Add in the 7 POTM cards in the program and you’ve collected 35 cards which oddly enough is exactly what you needed for the collection. Guess what, Tatis could be had for free. No investment what so ever. Now if you choose to sell those cards as you get them, well that’s on you and you can play with garbage SS for the remainder of the games lifecycle. Yes Tatis is worth every stub you spend but he could’ve been had for free if you were patient.
You are misunderstanding the question. Not sure why you assume I haven’t been “patient”, but I’ve completed all the moments and programs to claim Tatis for “free”, just like yourself. But Tatis is NOT free. The opportunity cost of locking in those “free” SELLABLE Topps Now cards is about 400K right now. The question is Tatis worth it?
Put it to ya this way. If someone gave you 200K and suggested you buy a Ferrari, that’s not a free Ferrari. You could’ve spent that on anything you wanted. For instance, instead of locking in that 400K worth of Topps Now cards for Tatis, I could use that to buy a “free” 99 Sale AND 99 Scherzer for my rotation.
I believe you have misunderstood what I’ve been saying. Not only did I not have to invest in Tatis, I ultimately got a return of 400k stubs back for a 200k profit because I not only locked in the 35 needed cards but also bought the rest of them then I turn around and flip the duplicates from the program and the extras I didn’t need to complete the collection. So is Tatis worth it in the scenario that I’ve been saying the whole time? Yes is my answer and he’s worth every stub spent even if I didn’t completely manipulate the market for a huge payday.
You investing in Topps Now cards and making profits is irrelevant, though. No matter how many stubs you have or have made, the bottom line is when you lock in those cards you are basically paying 400K for Tatis.
Wrong you are not paying anything for him buy locking him in. From what you are saying we pay for every single card if we lock them into any collections instead of selling on the Market. I wonder how many stubs everyone loss from locking in cards. Any stubs I would have earned by selling those cards I can make up on the market. Some of us locked half those cards in for Trout and he is worth it. I spent 0 stubs on those cards so yeah I got Tatis for free. I just did not gain a profit.
You’re right. You are not paying for Tatis, however you are sacrificing the option to easily sell those cards for market value of 400K. I feel ya, for what it’s worth I’m leaning towards collecting Tatis. I just feel dirty locking in 400k worth of Topps Now cards haha.
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@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@dbarmonstar said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@smalltownkid1990 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
@KILLERPRESENCE4 said in Cost of Tatis Jr.:
Ok here is the math plain and simple so pay attention. You get 13 total tops now cards from completing the moments. Everyone had the opportunity to get a free Lucas Giolito. Now you’re up to 14. Everyone had the opportunity to collect Amir Garrett at the beginning of the season so now we’re at 15. When the POTM program launched guess what guys they duplicated your tops now packs from the whole month. So now you have 13 additional tops now cards bringing your total to 28. Add in the 7 POTM cards in the program and you’ve collected 35 cards which oddly enough is exactly what you needed for the collection. Guess what, Tatis could be had for free. No investment what so ever. Now if you choose to sell those cards as you get them, well that’s on you and you can play with garbage SS for the remainder of the games lifecycle. Yes Tatis is worth every stub you spend but he could’ve been had for free if you were patient.
You are misunderstanding the question. Not sure why you assume I haven’t been “patient”, but I’ve completed all the moments and programs to claim Tatis for “free”, just like yourself. But Tatis is NOT free. The opportunity cost of locking in those “free” SELLABLE Topps Now cards is about 400K right now. The question is Tatis worth it?
Put it to ya this way. If someone gave you 200K and suggested you buy a Ferrari, that’s not a free Ferrari. You could’ve spent that on anything you wanted. For instance, instead of locking in that 400K worth of Topps Now cards for Tatis, I could use that to buy a “free” 99 Sale AND 99 Scherzer for my rotation.
I believe you have misunderstood what I’ve been saying. Not only did I not have to invest in Tatis, I ultimately got a return of 400k stubs back for a 200k profit because I not only locked in the 35 needed cards but also bought the rest of them then I turn around and flip the duplicates from the program and the extras I didn’t need to complete the collection. So is Tatis worth it in the scenario that I’ve been saying the whole time? Yes is my answer and he’s worth every stub spent even if I didn’t completely manipulate the market for a huge payday.
You investing in Topps Now cards and making profits is irrelevant, though. No matter how many stubs you have or have made, the bottom line is when you lock in those cards you are basically paying 400K for Tatis.
Wrong you are not paying anything for him buy locking him in. From what you are saying we pay for every single card if we lock them into any collections instead of selling on the Market. I wonder how many stubs everyone loss from locking in cards. Any stubs I would have earned by selling those cards I can make up on the market. Some of us locked half those cards in for Trout and he is worth it. I spent 0 stubs on those cards so yeah I got Tatis for free. I just did not gain a profit.
You’re right. You are not paying for Tatis, however you are sacrificing the option to easily sell those cards for market value of 400K. I feel ya, for what it’s worth I’m leaning towards collecting Tatis. I just feel dirty locking in 400k worth of Topps Now cards haha.
Then the question is what would you do with those 400k? The game gives so many stubs away all the stubs you gain just by doing moments or playing and completing programs or missions stubs are easy obtain but you could always sell make the 400k then buy back the cards to get Tatis when the price drops if it drops. Market prices continue to change.
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You’re right, the game does give out PLENTY of stubs this year in one form or another. The only player I’m eyeing right now is 99 Sale, however, I’m sure the next two inning programs I’ll probably want all 3 bosses so that has me thinking as well.
