Why this game is ridiculous
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@CCCStunna30 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@Kotank1334 15 perfect, 14-13 squared up, 12 good, 11 just off good contact. So yes 12 is good contact. If you gave up 5 straight hits that’s because your pitcher probably was in yellow and lost confidence, so if that’s the case the game played like it should
Can someone explain what is this 15,14...11 pci meaning, and where do you see that in game?
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@KOTANK1334 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
When you give up a jammed base hit on an 11 PCI. Then they hit an 11 PCI HR and then follow that up with a 12 PCI HR on the next batter. Boom you're down 3-0 in the event in the first inning.
GG SDS GG
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@CCCStunna30 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@Kotank1334 15 perfect, 14-13 squared up, 12 good, 11 just off good contact. So yes 12 is good contact. If you gave up 5 straight hits that’s because your pitcher probably was in yellow and lost confidence, so if that’s the case the game played like it should
Ok. so let me ask you this. What is your expectation as far as results per PCI placement ? Me, I'd say if you're off center enough to be a 12 you Might get a hit 1/4 or 1/5 times ? so .200 - .250 ? And I have 5 in a row. I'd had enough
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@CD_0506 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@CCCStunna30 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@Kotank1334 15 perfect, 14-13 squared up, 12 good, 11 just off good contact. So yes 12 is good contact. If you gave up 5 straight hits that’s because your pitcher probably was in yellow and lost confidence, so if that’s the case the game played like it should
Can someone explain what is this 15,14...11 pci meaning, and where do you see that in game?
It is the rating on how close to center of PCI you are. so it goes from Perfect on down. You can find it in the pause menu and under Batter analysis. You have to scroll through some of the options to find it though.
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Why do you play this game if all you do is constantly complain about it? Just stop playing, or at least posting about it.
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@pbake12 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
Why do you play this game if all you do is constantly complain about it? Just stop playing, or at least posting about it.
Why read my post and comment then ? I havent really posted anything for the last 2 weeks
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@KOTANK1334 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
Another event game.... 5 hits against me ALL 12 PCI. Why are we rewarding this ? What really gets me is that 2 of these were up the middle and my DIAMOND fielders couldn't get to them for a double play. How is a 12 PCI coming off the bat with such speed that this happens? Oh yeah... this game is horrible.
so you dont want a 12/15 being rewarded?
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@KOTANK1334 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@pbake12 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
Why do you play this game if all you do is constantly complain about it? Just stop playing, or at least posting about it.
Why read my post and comment then ? I havent really posted anything for the last 2 weeks
Well for one, a comment has to be read before deemed nonsensical.
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@flamexJD20 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@KOTANK1334 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
Another event game.... 5 hits against me ALL 12 PCI. Why are we rewarding this ? What really gets me is that 2 of these were up the middle and my DIAMOND fielders couldn't get to them for a double play. How is a 12 PCI coming off the bat with such speed that this happens? Oh yeah... this game is horrible.
so you dont want a 12/15 being rewarded?
Probably wrong use of words. I definitely dont think that it should be rewarded with 5 base hits in a row. I kind of stated in another post on here that I would expect a 12 PCI to bat around .200-.250 maybe ?
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@PhatWhiteOwl said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@KOTANK1334 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@pbake12 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
Why do you play this game if all you do is constantly complain about it? Just stop playing, or at least posting about it.
Why read my post and comment then ? I havent really posted anything for the last 2 weeks
Well for one, a comment has to be read before deemed nonsensical.
Yeah, well that may be true.... But if all I do is complain about the game and the title of the post is fairly obvious.. Why waste his time reading it ?
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lmao i dont know what 12 pci means
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@KOTANK1334 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@PhatWhiteOwl said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@KOTANK1334 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@pbake12 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
Why do you play this game if all you do is constantly complain about it? Just stop playing, or at least posting about it.
Why read my post and comment then ? I havent really posted anything for the last 2 weeks
Well for one, a comment has to be read before deemed nonsensical.
Yeah, well that may be true.... But if all I do is complain about the game and the title of the post is fairly obvious.. Why waste his time reading it ?
Because people love to see car crashes and the like.
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@PhatWhiteOwl said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@KOTANK1334 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@PhatWhiteOwl said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@KOTANK1334 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@pbake12 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
Why do you play this game if all you do is constantly complain about it? Just stop playing, or at least posting about it.
Why read my post and comment then ? I havent really posted anything for the last 2 weeks
Well for one, a comment has to be read before deemed nonsensical.
Yeah, well that may be true.... But if all I do is complain about the game and the title of the post is fairly obvious.. Why waste his time reading it ?
Because people love to see car crashes and the like
roger that !
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@CCCStunna30 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@Kotank1334 15 perfect, 14-13 squared up, 12 good, 11 just off good contact. So yes 12 is good contact. If you gave up 5 straight hits that’s because your pitcher probably was in yellow and lost confidence, so if that’s the case the game played like it should
12 pci may be good/okay contact, but should not result in a 9 contact MPH rating. Okay contact/high exit velo does not happen in real life. Also, pitchers confidence should not matter how the ball reacts off the bat. That’s up to the player’s swing.
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So should 10 PCI ratings result in 431 ft bombs ? cause that just happened.
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The game isn't necessarily good or bad. State of the art replication of MLB physics and animation. For that the whole development team deserves highest marks.
But, it's not a simulation. Everything in the game is controlled by code. Anyone that plays the game a lot, and is honest with no agenda can pick out a dozen or so different "tendencies" in the code that underscore the fact it's code driven...not player driven.
IMO, from my limited time playing..it works like this. Any ball thrown in the strike (or near it) and swing of the bat is then "analyzed" (loose statement that) by the code. It then paints an animation completely, I mean completely, in line with how it (the AI) has decided the outcome will be. I've seen it all.and I'm sure not a percentage as much as you guys that have played hundreds of hours.
Fast-balls, that is certain situations, are completely unhittable (very late..too late). In other situations (same game..same pitcher) you swing "very early" on. Fast balls that head into the zone with a trajectory that you know (from seeing 1000's of these pitches) is going to be outside, you don't swing, and you can actually see that fast-ball just "put on the brakes" and stop to record a strike-out. Curve balls and change ups that drop more than is physically possible.
But, the biggest problem I have with the fake animation is the majority of the time my swing (where my swing placement should be based on how I moved my controller) is off inches, sometimes feet, sometimes I'll drop my swing down on one of those low changeups and it will show my swing as if I went up in the zone,..sometimes I won't even move my controller and it will show my pci shift just enough to justify a swung through or whatever silly message is thrown up the make you believe you missed.
Pitche/swing are nothing but smoke and mirrors. The vibration, the result "very-late", "very-early", "he popped-it-up" is nothing more than the code making a decision long before the swing is completed what the result will be. It's the only method the developers have of presenting a pretty game, is to take complete control of the controller input and start generating animation based on what is best (who needs to win based on whatever keeps ppl coming back).
You play the game knowing it doesn't matter if you are good or bad. Whether you're loaded with diamond players or silver players.. Doesn't matter if you've pumped 600 hours into RS and playing someone that's on their first. You might win..you might lose. All dependent on the ride the AI decides to take you on. It is what it is.
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@KOTANK1334 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@CCCStunna30 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@Kotank1334 15 perfect, 14-13 squared up, 12 good, 11 just off good contact. So yes 12 is good contact. If you gave up 5 straight hits that’s because your pitcher probably was in yellow and lost confidence, so if that’s the case the game played like it should
Ok. so let me ask you this. What is your expectation as far as results per PCI placement ? Me, I'd say if you're off center enough to be a 12 you Might get a hit 1/4 or 1/5 times ? so .200 - .250 ? And I have 5 in a row. I'd had enough
So if it happens to you 20 more times and you don't give up a hit, what are you going to come back and say?
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@KOTANK1334 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@CD_0506 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@CCCStunna30 said in Why this game is ridiculous:
@Kotank1334 15 perfect, 14-13 squared up, 12 good, 11 just off good contact. So yes 12 is good contact. If you gave up 5 straight hits that’s because your pitcher probably was in yellow and lost confidence, so if that’s the case the game played like it should
Can someone explain what is this 15,14...11 pci meaning, and where do you see that in game?
It is the rating on how close to center of PCI you are. so it goes from Perfect on down. You can find it in the pause menu and under Batter analysis. You have to scroll through some of the options to find it though.
But, the barometer is based on what the code is assessing. When the code is rarely depicting your swing exactly where you swung...how accurate can this possibly be?
Do you, personally, feel it's accurate?
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@lazy_toast said in Why this game is ridiculous:
lmao i dont know what 12 pci means
No one does, devs said a rating of 15 is the best possible pci placement. but never said what the other numbers are or how they relate to 15, so ppl just guess that cause it's not the best it has to terrible.
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@eelnirad_anglo said in Why this game is ridiculous:
The game isn't necessarily good or bad. State of the art replication of MLB physics and animation. For that the whole development team deserves highest marks.
But, it's not a simulation. Everything in the game is controlled by code. Anyone that plays the game a lot, and is honest with no agenda can pick out a dozen or so different "tendencies" in the code that underscore the fact it's code driven...not player driven.
IMO, from my limited time playing..it works like this. Any ball thrown in the strike (or near it) and swing of the bat is then "analyzed" (loose statement that) by the code. It then paints an animation completely, I mean completely, in line with how it (the AI) has decided the outcome will be. I've seen it all.and I'm sure not a percentage as much as you guys that have played hundreds of hours.
Fast-balls, that is certain situations, are completely unhittable (very late..too late). In other situations (same game..same pitcher) you swing "very early" on. Fast balls that head into the zone with a trajectory that you know (from seeing 1000's of these pitches) is going to be outside, you don't swing, and you can actually see that fast-ball just "put on the brakes" and stop to record a strike-out. Curve balls and change ups that drop more than is physically possible.
But, the biggest problem I have with the fake animation is the majority of the time my swing (where my swing placement should be based on how I moved my controller) is off inches, sometimes feet, sometimes I'll drop my swing down on one of those low changeups and it will show my swing as if I went up in the zone,..sometimes I won't even move my controller and it will show my pci shift just enough to justify a swung through or whatever silly message is thrown up the make you believe you missed.
Pitche/swing are nothing but smoke and mirrors. The vibration, the result "very-late", "very-early", "he popped-it-up" is nothing more than the code making a decision long before the swing is completed what the result will be. It's the only method the developers have of presenting a pretty game, is to take complete control of the controller input and start generating animation based on what is best (who needs to win based on whatever keeps ppl coming back).
You play the game knowing it doesn't matter if you are good or bad. Whether you're loaded with diamond players or silver players.. Doesn't matter if you've pumped 600 hours into RS and playing someone that's on their first. You might win..you might lose. All dependent on the ride the AI decides to take you on. It is what it is.
nicely said man. Ive witnessed some of the hijinx mentioned. I agree they do the best they can for a simulation sport game. Imagine if it was just cut and dry based on players overall. My batter is a 95 and your pitcher is a 90 so my batter is going to win. I dont think that game would be fun to play so they have to add in the animations to replicate stuff happening
