Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?
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I think I used it my first year playing. It is okay against the AI.
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Yes. except for moments on veteran. It's for the birds.
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@MaxHarvest said in Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?:
Stop using directional, only gonna square up the rare over the middle meatball
Not true.
It’s more a matter of finding the right players with the right stats (vision!) and swing type, and learning how to use them in that scheme, but the ball does not need to be over the middle of the plate to mash it. Vlad can smash anything on directional, so long as you choose the right influence and time it well. Brett clobbers anything in the lower right quadrant with a pull/fly influence. Rickey obliterates lefties regardless of where it’s pitched.
You’re not going to hit everything out like you can with good PCI placement (which is quite ridiculous and unrealistic, by the way), but you can hang and win a lot more than you lose if you take the time to figure out how it actually works. I’m still figuring it out (been exclusively directional for roughly 100 games, now), but very recently put up 11 runs and won against a mid level Prestige player at garbage can Shippett (and I hate those games - would rather lose 2-1).
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Directional is very good if you know how to use it properly. The auto-shift makes directional extremely OP unless guys turn it off. If you have a guy who is shifted, you're guaranteed a single or better every AB. I'm a zone hitter, but I use directional at times. Lots of WS guys use it, they just don't tell you
If you're struggling, you might try pure analog. The computer gives you great PCI placement if you have high vision/high contact guys.
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@jimjones9989 said in Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?:
Lots of WS guys use it, they just don't tell you
That's because they don't.
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Directional used to be a very good option in past years - aim up & if it’s a low strike it was a homer. Aim down & if it was a high strike it was a homer. But I think due to the complaining about it on here SDS kind of broke it because directional hitters I know who were regular WS players before last year haven’t made WS since 18.
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Another thing is alot of people don’t know how it works because SDS refuses to put instructional videos on these games that would help clear up misconceptions.
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@raesONE said in Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?:
@jimjones9989 said in Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?:
Lots of WS guys use it, they just don't tell you
That's because they don't.
Except....they do. There are entire youtube channels dedicated to the finer side of using directional, by WS players. Big Tom being one of many. I didn't spend time learning how to do it, but plenty of people have mastered it.
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@jimjones9989 said in Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?:
@raesONE said in Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?:
@jimjones9989 said in Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?:
Lots of WS guys use it, they just don't tell you
That's because they don't.
Except....they do. There are entire youtube channels dedicated to the finer side of using directional, by WS players. Big Tom being one of many. I didn't spend time learning how to do it, but plenty of people have mastered it.
Even Big Tom bailed on directional this year & is now a zone hitter.
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I don't have the fine motor skills (nor the eyesight) for all zone all the time, so I play directional a lot.
Granted I only face the computer, but I like to control where the ball goes off the bat. Directional helps me in that aspect. -
@The_Joneser said in Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?:
You’re not going to hit everything out like you can with good PCI placement (which is quite ridiculous and unrealistic, by the way),
How is having to put the bat where the ball is ridiculous? It is ridiculous being able to hit without doing that.
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I did in the past, but the past few week have been brutal for me, even with almost perfect timing, I can’t tell you how many pop outs to the catcher or infield I’ve had. That does even count the flat out misses. Even if you have never used pure analog, I feel you will do better with that, then hitting with directional. Directional feels random with no rhyme or reason when you will make solid contact (even sitting on a fastball down the middle).
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@ChuckCLC said in Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?:
@The_Joneser said in Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?:
You’re not going to hit everything out like you can with good PCI placement (which is quite ridiculous and unrealistic, by the way),
How is having to put the bat where the ball is ridiculous? It is ridiculous being able to hit without doing that.
Because real people don’t pull low and outside pitches 450 feet with any regularity. There are freaks that do it on rare occasion, but it’s something to marvel over; it isn’t commonplace, like it is in this game. I’ve played the game for over 20 years and watched it for 40, and that [censored] simply doesn’t happen that often.
And, by the way, that isn’t your [censored] bat. The PCI represents where you’re looking, or where you want to put the bat. Like it or not, and I’m sure the pure input crybabies will love this, but that PCI represents intention. When a human tries to hit a fast moving round ball with a round bat they soon discover that it’s hard, and just because they’ve guessed right and trained their focus on exactly where the ball will be before letting it rip, they might still hit into an out (or flat out miss).
You can argue that it’s harder to put the PCI where the ball is, but it’s just as valid to argue that it takes a bit more brain power to quickly decide upon a swing type that fits the situation, the pitch, the defense, and the ability of the player holding the stick. Both methods are representative of that intent, and both subject to RNG, by necessity, because baseball, and life, involve an element of chance.
So, yes, I would argue that it’s absolutely ridiculous that you can circumvent that in a baseball simulation because you happen to be better at Call of Duty.
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My question is this (I use zone by the way) I get and understand why people don't like facing Directional hitters online, some use zone, but turn the PCI off. Isn't that basically directional hitting? I do expected to get hated on for asking this question, but my intentions are good.
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@johndarlas said in Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?:
My question is this (I use zone by the way) I get and understand why people don't like facing Directional hitters online, some use zone, but turn the PCI off. Isn't that basically directional hitting? I do expected to get hated on for asking this question, but my intentions are good.
No need for hate on that
Different things. Zone with the PCI off is still matching location, so stick to the right for an inside pitch to a lefty. With directional, the stick is influence, so a left-handed hitter with high vision and contact can inside-out an inside pitch by pushing the stick left (or down and left or up and left, depending). That influence choice will be successful or not considering the chances of a hitter with those attributes pulling it off against a pitcher with his attributes, taking into account pitch location and timing windows (which change depending on influence choice).
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@The_Joneser said in Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?:
@johndarlas said in Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?:
My question is this (I use zone by the way) I get and understand why people don't like facing Directional hitters online, some use zone, but turn the PCI off. Isn't that basically directional hitting? I do expected to get hated on for asking this question, but my intentions are good.
No need for hate on that
Different things. Zone with the PCI off is still matching location, so stick to the right for an inside pitch to a lefty. With directional, the stick is influence, so a left-handed hitter with high vision and contact can inside-out an inside pitch by pushing the stick left (or down and left or up and left, depending). That influence choice will be successful or not considering the chances of a hitter with those attributes pulling it off against a pitcher with his attributes, taking into account pitch location and timing windows (which change depending on influence choice).
I appreciate you answering my question. I expected people to jump all over me.
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@Steelerof3Rivers said in Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?:
directional hitters I know who were regular WS players before last year haven’t made WS since 18.
Huh?
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@jimjones9989 said in Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?:
@raesONE said in Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?:
@jimjones9989 said in Am I the only one that uses directional hitting?:
Lots of WS guys use it, they just don't tell you
That's because they don't.
Except....they do. There are entire youtube channels dedicated to the finer side of using directional, by WS players. Big Tom being one of many. I didn't spend time learning how to do it, but plenty of people have mastered it.
So there's a handful of guys who use it and make WS occasionally or even consistently. That doesn't mean "lots" of guys use it. It's a shame we can't access the true numbers because I'd bet the house that the overwhelming majority in WS uses zone hitting.