Why can't I hit?
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@allmustfall16 said in Why can't I hit?:
$200 Asus monitor, Kontrol freeks, and precision rings.
You’ll start hitting with these. It’s an investment but if you enjoy the game, it’s worth it.
Zone hitting, the show 16 camera
I have kontrol freeks and Im still unsure if they really make a difference.
I've been searching for what they are really supposed to do for you and I just can't seem to find it. What are your thoughts? -
How do you keep your Ko trol freeks on? Mine pop off all the time.. Plus I find it hard to select individual runners after.. I have the red ones
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I have a 65in tv that does 10ms input lag and don’t have the problems people talk about. There’s a ton of settings you can turn off and your almost as good as a monitor. If you turn off app downloads, all extra processing like dynamic contacts etc, remove all unwanted apps, turn off auto update, make sure your on 1080p and faster in the game settings and turn on game mode it all makes a difference.
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I dont know why I've hit a massive slump at the plate, both on and offline. I was a .350 hitter and I've been like .270 all week. I'm so in my head, cant read pitch speed or location all of a sudden.
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I switched to a monitor and I'll never go back to using a tv. If you are a diehard show fan like me, it's worth the money for a good monitor.
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@lucas8181 said in Why can't I hit?:
@eatyum said in Why can't I hit?:
It sounds like you are in your head way too much. Hard to get consistency when you're trying to do a million things at once.
As for your other questions,
- Yes a monitor would probably help some
- A monitor isn't really making the pitch speed slower, it's more about input lag. (As in from the time you press the button to the batter swinging etc)
- No having a pro really doesn't make any significant difference.
- 25 Mbps is not bad, not great, kinda average.
- Connection can affect gameplay at times yes
One correction, monitors have nothing to do with "input lag", it doesn't change how quickly you swing the bat.
A monitor will have a quicker refresh rate, meaning: The pixel will change quicker, letting you see whats happening in real time. A TV's slow refresh rate means that by the time your TV pixels update, you are seeing things that already happened. Your TV is a time machine, holding you back a few precious milliseconds (Or in many cases, 50-100 milliseconds)
So no, the pitches won't move slower, but you will no longer be reacting to what happened in the past. Your TV is behind the action, the monitor is not.
Playing on a TV will absolutely cause you to have to guess, because by the time you see the ball on your TV, it's already in the glove in the game.
This is true in all reaction based online games. You'll notice a big difference in FPS, sports games, etc.
Yes you defined input lag. The input lag doesn't affect the game, it affects whether or not you're seeing the game in real time. Monitors have less of an input lag than a large TV because of their high refresh rate. So monitors do have something to do with input lag
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I too struggle with hitting I am hitting a miserable .179 in RS but have a 119-119 record because I can pitch pretty well. I play on a 65” Sony XBR top of the line TV in game mode. I think most of the problem for us older people playing is picking up the ball... what pitch it is and where it’s going. I can tell you that there is no way I am picking up any spin on the ball at all let alone fast enough to respond in time. I have just resigned to the fact and hope there is a way for me to compete. I would make the investment in a monitor if I though it’d make a difference. I don’t think it would help me have the ability to pick up the spin and react, also recognize the pitch in any consistent way. I am 47 and just try to have as much fun as I can.
Do you think you’d be able to pick up the spin on the ball or have any real difference if you had a monitor? Are you able to see spin now? -
@allmustfall16 said in Why can't I hit?:
$200 Asus monitor, Kontrol freeks, and precision rings.
You’ll start hitting with these. It’s an investment but if you enjoy the game, it’s worth it.
Zone hitting, the show 16 camera
What particular Asus monitor are you referring to? I've been playing the show for years but have really gotten into playing RS in DD over the past couple of years. I've been playing on the same old school 60 inch Mitsubishi DLP TV since I started playing DD. The TV is great but reading all this stuff about monitors making such a HUGE difference I'm finally ready to break down and get one. I absolutely cannot hit in this game to save my life and I'm sick and tired of loosing 1-0 and 2-1 ball games simply because I can't score. If I could just score 3 or 4 runs a game instead of getting shutout or scoring one run that would make a big difference in my record. My understanding is to get a monitor with a 1ms response time and 120-144 hz refresh rate? Getting one with that refresh rate would make it work with the PS5 when I eventually do upgrade to that is what I was told by someone.
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It’s the milliseconds... called response time you are looking for, not refresh rate ie 120/240hrz
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@CubsFan708 said in Why can't I hit?:
I have a 65in tv that does 10ms input lag and don’t have the problems people talk about. There’s a ton of settings you can turn off and your almost as good as a monitor. If you turn off app downloads, all extra processing like dynamic contacts etc, remove all unwanted apps, turn off auto update, make sure your on 1080p and faster in the game settings and turn on game mode it all makes a difference.
Are these in game settings or ps4 settings and where can I find them?
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@elway7751 said in Why can't I hit?:
@allmustfall16 said in Why can't I hit?:
$200 Asus monitor, Kontrol freeks, and prec ision rings.
You’ll start hitting with these. It’s an investment but if you enjoy the game, it’s worth it.
Zone hitting, the show 16 camera
I have kontrol freeks and Im still unsure if they really make a difference.
I've been searching for what they are really supposed to do for you and I just can't seem to find it. What are your thoughts?To answer you and the other guys who asked a few questions back. The monitor is called VG245H ( I think). It’s actually under $200. The Kontrol freeks are CQC’s (I think). They are the standard ones. And the precision rings are super important. Use the purple precision rings when you get them. They give you two different types. Purple work better than black.
And like I said, Zone with show 16 camera. If you suck at hitting, that camera gives you th a most time to react to pitches.
It will raise your BA if you do everything I said. I guarantee it. If the precision rings feel weird at first stick with them. They need to break in a little. Low pitches will be hard to hit at first with then.
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@allmustfall16 said in Why can't I hit?:
@elway7751 said in Why can't I hit?:
@allmustfall16 said in Why can't I hit?:
$200 Asus monitor, Kontrol freeks, and prec ision rings.
You’ll start hitting with these. It’s an investment but if you enjoy the game, it’s worth it.
Zone hitting, the show 16 camera
I have kontrol freeks and Im still unsure if they really make a difference.
I've been searching for what they are really supposed to do for you and I just can't seem to find it. What are your thoughts?To answer you and the other guys who asked a few questions back. The monitor is called VG245H ( I think). It’s actually under $200. The Kontrol freeks are CQC’s (I think). They are the standard ones. And the precision rings are super important. Use the purple precision rings when you get them. They give you two different types. Purple work better than black.
And like I said, Zone with show 16 camera. If you suck at hitting, that camera gives you th a most time to react to pitches.
It will raise your BA if you do everything I said. I guarantee it. If the precision rings feel weird at first stick with them. They need to break in a little. Low pitches will be hard to hit at first with then.
Thanks for the info, I appreciate it!
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@JiggidyJJ said in Why can't I hit?:
@CubsFan708 said in Why can't I hit?:
I have a 65in tv that does 10ms input lag and don’t have the problems people talk about. There’s a ton of settings you can turn off and your almost as good as a monitor. If you turn off app downloads, all extra processing like dynamic contacts etc, remove all unwanted apps, turn off auto update, make sure your on 1080p and faster in the game settings and turn on game mode it all makes a difference.
Are these in game settings or ps4 settings and where can I find them?
I think most of them are actually TV settings, which are obviously going to vary by TV manufacturer. I'll have to look and see what I can turn off on my TV. I'm surprised that app download settings would make a difference, but I'll try anything as I don't really have the space to dedicate to a video game setup where a monitor would be an option.
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@Bleeding-_-Me said in Why can't I hit?:
I think most of the problem for us older people playing is picking up the ball... what pitch it is and where it’s going. I can tell you that there is no way I am picking up any spin on the ball at all let alone fast enough to respond in time...
Do you think you’d be able to pick up the spin on the ball or have any real difference if you had a monitor? Are you able to see spin now?I wonder about this too. I wonder if, when you watch streamers play the game, you're actually seeing what they're seeing in terms of how much time they have to react to a pitch, etc. They're all playing on Hall of Fame or Legend, but they can get the PCI to the ball more consistently than I can doing one of the Moments on Veteran difficulty. One of the streamers, I think maybe College Lefty, has a video where he shows his PCI movement in slow motion, and he actually initially reacts one way, then kind of "double clutches" and redirects his PCI to the correct spot, which is something I simply can't imagine having the reaction time to do. Does a monitor buy you that reaction time, or do some people just have it ? Obviously not everyone can be a top 50 player, so it's probably some of both, but I wonder how much difference it truly makes if you're just old and slow lol...
Is there anyone out there who bought a monitor and didn't think it helped much, or thinks it's mostly a placebo effect due to increased confidence? I know part of my problem at this point is that I know I can't hit, so I go into games expecting to struggle, and it's hard to stick to an approach when you're not seeing much success and thinking "here we go again."
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My issue is I peak after two games and start losing focus. I really enjoy playing ranked seasons. I would guess the first three games of a sitting I am hitting close to .275. I will then play another 3 but will barely be able to hit anything. I’ve played over 400 so far. I really lose focus quickly. If I was hardcore about my record I would cap it to two games in one setting
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@thumpasery said in Why can't I hit?:
I play virtually all my games on All Star difficulty in Ranked Seasons and am hitting around .225 online, which I know is really bad. I've watched tons of hitting tips videos and nothing seems to work for me. I try to look for the "bump" at the release point to determine if it's an offspeed pitch, but a fastball released just a little high looks the same to me, so I'm either late on the fastball or early on offspeed. I feel like I have to swing early to catch up with the fastball, so I'm often swinging at pitches out of the zone. I try batting practice with the sliders turned up, but I just flail for however long I take batting practice and don't notice any improvement, so it feels pointless. I play on a 55" Samsung TV in game mode, and for a variety of reasons a monitor isn't really an option, so I'm wondering if not having a monitor is the majority of my problem, or if there could be other factors at work. Does having a monitor make pitch speeds look slower? I have the original (pre-Pro) PS4; does having a Pro make a difference? My internet is Comcast with a WiFi connection and averages about 25Mbps when tested on the PS4; is that good? Bad? Irrelevant? I've read that connection quality can impact pitch speeds pretty dramatically; is this true, and how much of a factor is it compared to the difference a monitor makes? Do any of the TV settings apart from game mode (which HDMI input you use, HDR setting on or off, 1080 vs 720) matter?
I'm also probably at the upper end of the age spectrum for people playing this game (I'm 48) and my eyesight isn't perfect. I'm just wondering why I'm so bad at hitting and if it's one issue or a combination of things, and if there's anything I'm missing or if it's possible to just not be very good and not able to improve.
Thanks!
I would plug in directly to the router. Hardliners is always better. My connection for hard line is 200 mbps.
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@thumpasery said in Why can't I hit?:
@Bleeding-_-Me said in Why can't I hit?:
I think most of the problem for us older people playing is picking up the ball... what pitch it is and where it’s going. I can tell you that there is no way I am picking up any spin on the ball at all let alone fast enough to respond in time...
Do you think you’d be able to pick up the spin on the ball or have any real difference if you had a monitor? Are you able to see spin now?I wonder about this too. I wonder if, when you watch streamers play the game, you're actually seeing what they're seeing in terms of how much time they have to react to a pitch, etc. They're all playing on Hall of Fame or Legend, but they can get the PCI to the ball more consistently than I can doing one of the Moments on Veteran difficulty. One of the streamers, I think maybe College Lefty, has a video where he shows his PCI movement in slow motion, and he actually initially reacts one way, then kind of "double clutches" and redirects his PCI to the correct spot, which is something I simply can't imagine having the reaction time to do. Does a monitor buy you that reaction time, or do some people just have it ? Obviously not everyone can be a top 50 player, so it's probably some of both, but I wonder how much difference it truly makes if you're just old and slow lol...
Is there anyone out there who bought a monitor and didn't think it helped much, or thinks it's mostly a placebo effect due to increased confidence? I know part of my problem at this point is that I know I can't hit, so I go into games expecting to struggle, and it's hard to stick to an approach when you're not seeing much success and thinking "here we go again."
It’s funny you mention that. You watch their videos and when they are batting, the pitches come in so smoothly and so slowly. I think it’s probably just the way it looks post processing or whatever. But my pitches come in like teleporting missiles. I do think that people are having completely different experiences when playing online. It could be internet. It could be disparity of connection speeds between opponents. I don’t even know. I bought a monitor, and that definitely helped, but there are so many other factors that go into play beyond a monitor. Heck, what if the problem is with your hdmi cable? What if your controller is causing undue input lag? Maybe you just have the wrong settings selected on your tv or monitor? There are so many random things that can impact your gameplay experience. Sorry. I lost track of what my initial point was. What were we talking about again?
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All you guys in your 40’s listen up. Just keep playing the game and do some practice hitting on higher speeds than you are used to playing online. You will get better. I’m 65 and I’m 11-3 in RS and I win about 50-60% of the event games I play. It is doable so don’t let the fact that you are in your 40’s be a crutch.....wanna trade ages? lol
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@TEXAS10PT said in Why can't I hit?:
All you guys in your 40’s listen up. Just keep playing the game and do some practice hitting on higher speeds than you are used to playing online. You will get better. I’m 65 and I’m 11-3 in RS and I win about 50-60% of the event games I play. It is doable so don’t let the fact that you are in your 40’s be a crutch.....wanna trade ages? lol
Yeah, but do you have a monitor or magic internet?
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@vagimon said in Why can't I hit?:
I bought a monitor, and that definitely helped
When you say it helped, how would you describe the difference? Is pitch speed slower? Is it easier to see the difference between a fastball and a changeup? Can you wait longer before pressing X and still get a well timed swing? And is the difference dramatic or subtle?
Just curious.
