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Think this mostly has to do w/ if the game/server freezes

I'm still holding out hope I can get another volunteer or two. The project is going to be well worth it I can tell you.

@kush_coder_psn said in Why are so many ages wrong in the roster?:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Why are so many ages wrong in the roster?:

@thegoaler_psn said in Why are so many ages wrong in the roster?:

Why on God's green earth do you need non-MLB players ages to be right?
Some want to go out and drink but are too young?
You want a refund for this?

Also, how can you get ages wrong on your players? This is such a simple thing and an inexcusable oversight. It just really goes to show how little they care.

Combine that with their ineptitude with the vault, and its just enough. We the players deserve better than this garbage we've been given

If I was a franchise only player I think I would only play OOTP baseball. I might grind TheShow all day and play online ton. (I would rather watch paint dry than pitch and hit against CPU players) But I still make sure to get at least 2 hours of OOTP 22 in at night before bed. I currently have a GM franchise for 1 expanded league with 2 new fictional expansions teams. I have my Historical Franchises, and 1 Challenge Mode franchise.
As much as I love the show for an action sim, when it comes to franchise, they don't even compare to OOTP

However, I am not mostly a franchise player. I prefer head to head competition more than single player modes. That's why most of my time is spend on TheShow.

See the thing is I still want to actually play the game as well. What SDS continues to fail to realize is there's still a large following of hardcore sim players who want both the game experience AND the strategy experience.

I don't see why it is so hard to just give your most dedicated base (franchise players) at least some of what they've been asking for.

Having the correct [censored] ages shouldn't even be asked for. It should be give without question and its insulting as a consumer

@thegoaler_psn said in Why are so many ages wrong in the roster?:

Why on God's green earth do you need non-MLB players ages to be right?
Some want to go out and drink but are too young?
You want a refund for this?

Also, how can you get ages wrong on your players? This is such a simple thing and an inexcusable oversight. It just really goes to show how little they care.

Combine that with their ineptitude with the vault, and its just enough. We the players deserve better than this garbage we've been given

@thegoaler_psn said in Why are so many ages wrong in the roster?:

Why on God's green earth do you need non-MLB players ages to be right?
Some want to go out and drink but are too young?
You want a refund for this?

Because I'm a franchise player and I play the game for a realistic simulation. It's already bad enough that franchise falls short of expectations every year, this is just the final nail in the coffin

This is honestly inexcusable. It looks like every single non-MLB player has the wrong age, with countless having their age off by 2 years. What's worse is we can't even edit the players to get the ages correct which is a joke.

I'm seriously disappointed by the roll-out of this game. I'm probably going to look into getting a refund of some kind from the PS Store because this is borderline bait and switch at this point.

I have been buying it every year myself, but the last couple years I have seriously considered not doing it. However, SDS has done a couple of things the past couple years to bring me back. Hopefully they continue that trend of improving franchise every year

@knucklecutter said in Community Roster Project Call for Volunteers (+ update):

If I may ask because I'm curious, with the inclusion of Ridin's Full Minors Rosters and the True Sim Roster Project, what is it that your roster could bring to the table that those can't?

So happy that you asked.

First off, Ridin's rosters don't offer anything more than a base roster for other creators. His creation of MiLB players is great and he does a great job with likeness and equipment, but his ratings and potentials are very poorly executed. Additionally, he does not edit any MLB players.

Cycloniac's TrueSim project is fantastic, I'm actually a fan. However, I still think that it falls short in a few areas. Mostly there's more than a few disagreements I have with some of his ratings of players and some of his potentials feel a little out of whack. He also still doesn't go into a lot of depth in terms of adding a lot of top prospects.

Now for mine specifically:

The first thing for my set is prospects. So. Many. Prospects. Every team's top 30 (per MLB pipeline) is included. Then, I created a tier system based on player roles (e.g. "average", "all-star", "AAAA", etc.) for potentials to balance out the league and make "elite" players stand out and to have a logjam of players in the 72-78 overall range (which equates to roughly average).

For my attribute ratings, much like Cycloniac, I am using real world stats. However, I'm taking it up a notch. I did a lot of in game testing to determine what attribute levels will equate to what statistics (e.g. a contact rating of 60 will have a player hit .250, which is roughly league average BA). By doing this, I created standard curves and got equations to where I can literally just put in a player's real world stats, and the output will be an in-game value that should roughly replicate his numbers in the game.

So that's what I can offer over other roster creators. However, it is a very extensive process that I cannot alone conquer myself. It's simply too much work. So that's why I am seeking any help I can get. I have a step-by-step editing guide and excel file with all the necessary equations set up, I just need someone to input the statistics for teams (I am already taking on about 5-10 which is a project itself).

I'm still looking for help guys! I honestly believe this could be a great roster set, but I just can't do it alone

If you're unfamiliar with the project, check out this thread:

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show-rosters/984775-2021-community-roster-project.html

I am still looking for a couple more volunteers to help out! It would be great to get at least 3 more people to cover 3 more divisions, but any help would be appreciated. I've got an entire step-by-step plan that'll help fast track your edits in an unbiased manner.

On that note, I also want to provide an update on how my system is translating to attribute ratings. I am a die hard Cubs fan, so I took the NL central as a division to edit. I have finished with the preliminary stats gathering and wanted to share some of the ratings from the key players on the Cubs to give you guys insights into how the ratings work and get a little feedback.

Remember, I have tested these values in game so they translate to real world stats. So while some of these ratings may be surprising, you may be surprised how accurate they end up being in-game.

Ratings here: https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show-rosters/985400-community-roster-project-2021-call-volunteers-update.html

Project is moving along slowly but surely! More help is still needed to reach the finish line quickly and with high quality.

Everything you'd need to do your edits has been laid out in a simple step-by-step format. All you need to do is collect the necessary statistics.

Message me on here, on twitter (@ViatorLion10), or on PSN (ViatorLion10).

Help us, yourself, and the whole community out!

I quick manage pretty much every game I don't actively play

The google drive with all necessary files is all set up and we are off and running!

Those of you who said you were in, contact me on PSN (ViatorLion10) or quote tweet this so I can get your email to send you the link.

We are still looking for any extra assistance we can get, so feel free to volunteer!

@brian61bytof_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

I am trying to get a community roster project going to create the best possible experience for franchise players.

If you might be interested, here is the link to the OSFM thread which has all the pertinent details:

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show-rosters/984775-2021-community-roster-project.html

Leave a response there if you are willing to help out on the project!

I’m in

I appreciate you my guy! Keep checking back here and I'll let you know when it's go time. Only need a couple more to help out.

I'm still looking for volunteers guys! So far I've got three people in total. If we can get to at least 6 that makes the project so much easier (each guy edits a whole division then).

I've almost completely finished an easy to follow step-by-step guide that will make your lives so much easier while doing the editing as well.

Come be a part of this big time project!

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@rosco-suupa_psn said in Community Roster Project:

I was in until you mentioned Operation Sports. They've run too many people off with their nonsense. Are there no alternatives to OS?

Yeah, you can have a conversation with someone and then someone else comes in from who knows where and starts acting like the other guy's lawyer. Wow, that is one very long sentence!

Well, I'll put my magnifying glass down now and stop typing.

Ok I'm literally just a guy with no affiliation with OSFM just trying to make a good roster set lol

I understand, but like I said above, what good is making a roster for download when you can't get it into a franchise?

Who knows when that will happen? Hey, maybe it will be a new feature in The Show 22, downloading rosters from the vault and getting it into a franchise!

Bruh by the time the project is done the vault will be working again

Maybe

Why are you here? You could have just chosen not to comment my guy

I am not your guy. Why have I chosen to comment? Because, and I know this is going to be hard for you to understand, I expressed my thought on the subject.

I was looking for people interested in helping, not your opinion

Well, I will post my opinion here regardless of what you think. Now, if you change the subject title of this thread and add No Opinions , then I shall obey.

So you're basically just trolling for attention then.....

That's mature

What did I say above? "Why have I chosen to comment? Because, and I know this is going to be hard for you to understand, I expressed my thought on the subject."

Except no one asked for your opinion. In fact, nobody asked for any opinions. And then you respond in an immature way

No please, kindly, leave the thread

You are an excellent representative for/of OS.

Lol again I literally have ZERO affiliation with OS

Hmmm.....

"I am trying to get a community roster project going to create the best possible experience for franchise players.

If you might be interested, here is the link to the OSFM thread which has all the pertinent details:

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show-rosters/984775-2021-community-roster-project.html

Leave a response there if you are willing to help out on the project!"

It's called a forum bud. You post in it to interact with other people.

Its the same thing as posting here, but saying "I have no affiliation to SDS"

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@rosco-suupa_psn said in Community Roster Project:

I was in until you mentioned Operation Sports. They've run too many people off with their nonsense. Are there no alternatives to OS?

Yeah, you can have a conversation with someone and then someone else comes in from who knows where and starts acting like the other guy's lawyer. Wow, that is one very long sentence!

Well, I'll put my magnifying glass down now and stop typing.

Ok I'm literally just a guy with no affiliation with OSFM just trying to make a good roster set lol

I understand, but like I said above, what good is making a roster for download when you can't get it into a franchise?

Who knows when that will happen? Hey, maybe it will be a new feature in The Show 22, downloading rosters from the vault and getting it into a franchise!

Bruh by the time the project is done the vault will be working again

Maybe

Why are you here? You could have just chosen not to comment my guy

I am not your guy. Why have I chosen to comment? Because, and I know this is going to be hard for you to understand, I expressed my thought on the subject.

I was looking for people interested in helping, not your opinion

Well, I will post my opinion here regardless of what you think. Now, if you change the subject title of this thread and add No Opinions , then I shall obey.

So you're basically just trolling for attention then.....

That's mature

What did I say above? "Why have I chosen to comment? Because, and I know this is going to be hard for you to understand, I expressed my thought on the subject."

Except no one asked for your opinion. In fact, nobody asked for any opinions. And then you respond in an immature way

No please, kindly, leave the thread

You are an excellent representative for/of OS.

Lol again I literally have ZERO affiliation with OS

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@rosco-suupa_psn said in Community Roster Project:

I was in until you mentioned Operation Sports. They've run too many people off with their nonsense. Are there no alternatives to OS?

Yeah, you can have a conversation with someone and then someone else comes in from who knows where and starts acting like the other guy's lawyer. Wow, that is one very long sentence!

Well, I'll put my magnifying glass down now and stop typing.

Ok I'm literally just a guy with no affiliation with OSFM just trying to make a good roster set lol

I understand, but like I said above, what good is making a roster for download when you can't get it into a franchise?

Who knows when that will happen? Hey, maybe it will be a new feature in The Show 22, downloading rosters from the vault and getting it into a franchise!

Bruh by the time the project is done the vault will be working again

Maybe

Why are you here? You could have just chosen not to comment my guy

I am not your guy. Why have I chosen to comment? Because, and I know this is going to be hard for you to understand, I expressed my thought on the subject.

I was looking for people interested in helping, not your opinion

Well, I will post my opinion here regardless of what you think. Now, if you change the subject title of this thread and add No Opinions , then I shall obey.

So you're basically just trolling for attention then.....

That's mature

What did I say above? "Why have I chosen to comment? Because, and I know this is going to be hard for you to understand, I expressed my thought on the subject."

Except no one asked for your opinion. In fact, nobody asked for any opinions. And then you respond in an immature way

No please, kindly, leave the thread

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@rosco-suupa_psn said in Community Roster Project:

I was in until you mentioned Operation Sports. They've run too many people off with their nonsense. Are there no alternatives to OS?

Yeah, you can have a conversation with someone and then someone else comes in from who knows where and starts acting like the other guy's lawyer. Wow, that is one very long sentence!

Well, I'll put my magnifying glass down now and stop typing.

Ok I'm literally just a guy with no affiliation with OSFM just trying to make a good roster set lol

I understand, but like I said above, what good is making a roster for download when you can't get it into a franchise?

Who knows when that will happen? Hey, maybe it will be a new feature in The Show 22, downloading rosters from the vault and getting it into a franchise!

Bruh by the time the project is done the vault will be working again

Maybe

Why are you here? You could have just chosen not to comment my guy

I am not your guy. Why have I chosen to comment? Because, and I know this is going to be hard for you to understand, I expressed my thought on the subject.

I was looking for people interested in helping, not your opinion

Well, I will post my opinion here regardless of what you think. Now, if you change the subject title of this thread and add No Opinions , then I shall obey.

So you're basically just trolling for attention then.....

That's mature

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@viatorlion10_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@zovuna_psn said in Community Roster Project:

@rosco-suupa_psn said in Community Roster Project:

I was in until you mentioned Operation Sports. They've run too many people off with their nonsense. Are there no alternatives to OS?

Yeah, you can have a conversation with someone and then someone else comes in from who knows where and starts acting like the other guy's lawyer. Wow, that is one very long sentence!

Well, I'll put my magnifying glass down now and stop typing.

Ok I'm literally just a guy with no affiliation with OSFM just trying to make a good roster set lol

I understand, but like I said above, what good is making a roster for download when you can't get it into a franchise?

Who knows when that will happen? Hey, maybe it will be a new feature in The Show 22, downloading rosters from the vault and getting it into a franchise!

Bruh by the time the project is done the vault will be working again

Maybe

Why are you here? You could have just chosen not to comment my guy

I am not your guy. Why have I chosen to comment? Because, and I know this is going to be hard for you to understand, I expressed my thought on the subject.

I was looking for people interested in helping, not your opinion