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@eatyum said in Looking back at 18:

@snout_japper said in Looking back at 18:

@eatyum said in Looking back at 18:

You are forgetting pitch speeds, they were insufferably slow.

I can see that. They did increase the speeds at least once maybe twice throughout the year due to the complaints. Pitching in 20 is scary because good input doesn’t seem to mean much so in comparison it’s not better than 18. One has this issue one has another issue. They took one step forward with increasing speeds but then a step back with how hitting your spots is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Pitching in 20 is imperfect (and that's a nice way of saying it). But I'll take some good release hangers over it not mattering where I throw because it's slow enough that people will crush every ball no matter the placement. So to me personally, it would be one step forward, a half a step back.

Don’t get me wrong I’m not sticking up for 18 but 2 years later we should be like 2 steps forward at least and no steps back. Just want a year of solid gameplay with minor issues, not new big issues.

@Nanos_McGregor said in Looking back at 18:

Dude 18 is the worst. Only 2 lineups, All Immortals or 1 or 2 Finest mixed in to your immortal lineup. Pitch speeds are slow pitch. Sometimes even if you did square it up, it would be a pop fly. The content was absolute buns. It was either home run or pop out on that game. I’d rather play this than that abomination.

I agree the hitting was bad and said that in my original comment. Content isn’t the reason for this post, referring to gameplay only. The hitting is nothing to brag about in this game either and now we have pitching and fielding to add to the bad list. So in comparison 20 has just as much if not more problems.

@Nanthrax_1 said in Looking back at 18:

The exchanges... Hats and bobbleheads...
I hate Coors Field to this day because of that game.

I’m mainly talking about the gameplay.

@eatyum said in Looking back at 18:

You are forgetting pitch speeds, they were insufferably slow.

I can see that. They did increase the speeds at least once maybe twice throughout the year due to the complaints. Pitching in 20 is scary because good input doesn’t seem to mean much so in comparison it’s not better than 18. One has this issue one has another issue. They took one step forward with increasing speeds but then a step back with how hitting your spots is like shooting fish in a barrel.

@James97M said in Looking back at 18:

18 suuuuuuuuckes. Worst video game I've ever played. Content sucked, gameplay sucked. 20 is still 100x better than 18

What part of the gameplay in 18 makes you think that way? Obviously the hitting but what else?

18 only had a couple real issues, the hitting and the ability to immediately return to first safely on every steal attempt. This year’s game is bad in every way. Pitching is very suspect. Fielding, we’ve all seen the videos. Hitting, so random that it doesn’t make sense. They need to strip strip this game to the core and build it back up with the good things from every year since probably 16.

This is what I don’t get. How could the weaker hit have a better result? This game is so random you’d be a fool to take winning or losing seriously.

@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in My main problem with the game:

You forgot to mention RNG

I feel the sim mostly. I played a lot of games where my opponent was getting good hits to fall but my good hits were automatic outs but then the opposite the next game. To me it’s the sim that is deciding what’s going to happen.

Your playing against the programming that’s doing everything it can to keep games “interesting”. Goes both ways though. One game your getting favored the next your helpless with your opponent getting favored. It has to be the sim that’s doing it

If I decide to purchase this game again the player vs player needs to buffed and the sim toned down. Why not make an alternate online mode that’s more player vs player for those of us who want a less simulation experience.

@olivegarden2 said in I just beat a world series player...:

@ryrycon said in I just beat a world series player...:

Was it on events or battle royal

BR, I hit a 3 run shot with Aquino on a cutter high to walk it off! I pitched well, got good okayed a bunch, but capitalized on mistake pitches

With how pitching is this year I’m willing to bet those mistake pitches were due to the game controlling them. Not your opponent. Pitching is sketchy this year.

@halfbutt said in Playing the ball on the hop in the outfield:

@snout_japper said in Playing the ball on the hop in the outfield:

@halfbutt said in Playing the ball on the hop in the outfield:

@snout_japper said in Playing the ball on the hop in the outfield:

Sometimes things don’t go your way especially when playing a sim game. I could see this being worth a complaint if it was an arcade game but its not so just accept the gameplay.

With all due respect man, that is a terrible attitude. We all have every right to expect to be able to catch a fly ball without the game causing the outfielder to pull up short with a forced animation.

The game causes a lot of things to happen out of your control. Everything is controlled by the simulation. I want my pitches to go where I aim, I don’t want my fielders to make stupid errors, I don’t want my hits to be decided by randomness, I don’t want my opponent to magically get rewarded with his trash hits to start a comeback. It is what it is. Game is nothing but simulation and that’s why I don’t really give af about it.

The game is not a simulation. OOTP is a simulation.

If this game wasn’t simulation then user skill would be more noticeable. Right now a bad player can give a good player a sweaty game because the simulation will make it that way.

The game is simulation and nothing more. Don’t take the loses so bad. The way this game plays a bad player could beat a good player any day of the week due to the simulation and rng rolling in his favor. I don’t know how players could take this game so seriously cause everything is just simulated lol.

@halfbutt said in Playing the ball on the hop in the outfield:

@snout_japper said in Playing the ball on the hop in the outfield:

Sometimes things don’t go your way especially when playing a sim game. I could see this being worth a complaint if it was an arcade game but its not so just accept the gameplay.

With all due respect man, that is a terrible attitude. We all have every right to expect to be able to catch a fly ball without the game causing the outfielder to pull up short with a forced animation.

The game causes a lot of things to happen out of your control. Everything is controlled by the simulation. I want my pitches to go where I aim, I don’t want my fielders to make stupid errors, I don’t want my hits to be decided by randomness, I don’t want my opponent to magically get rewarded with his trash hits to start a comeback. It is what it is. Game is nothing but simulation and that’s why I don’t really give af about it.

Sometimes things don’t go your way especially when playing a sim game. I could see this being worth a complaint if it was an arcade game but its not so just accept the gameplay.