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Do you think they drop anything before 7/24 with one of these packs or is this it.
Why are they not updated into the deluxe and premier packs ?
Deluxe and Premier only include random specific card packs, and the new Midsummer pack (and HRD) are only available in Choice packs. So they finally give us Choice packs but then those backdoor nerf the tons of Deluxe packs we get.
Every base round Cityscape and Mural has 300+ sell orders at quick sell and/or quick sell plus one, something no single account can do and no human who would actual work the market and understand the 10% tax would do.
@PsylockeSmythe_XBL going console only would kill flipping unless the console experience is greatly improved (not having to retype prices, being able to sort dupes, etc.).
Since the 20 order cap and the greatly reduced number of roster updates have already killed investing, killing flipping as well would be another nail in the NMS coffin.
What they need to do is figure out a way to stop bots that doesn't harm humans. But easier said than done. The market was fine from 2021-2025, I don't understand how bots got so bad in one year, but what do I know?
@PsylockeSmythe_XBL I'm a flipper. I sell new packed dupes on console when opening the pack. The point of the app for me is flipping.
I tried putting in orders for a common now instead of the diamonds I'd been trying, and still for restricted at 5 buy orders. Same as posting 5 diamond sell orders earlier.
The entire point of the app is interacting with the marketplace (minor features like squad management and face scan aside), and it's just not functioning at that at all right now for actual humans.
@PsylockeSmythe_XBL there's no point in fighting the app for 4 orders every couple of minutes while bots have killed margins. There's no reason for a 4 order a minute cap on humans while bots are running rampant anyway.
@samguenther1987_PSN Except that it does hinder the bots, they run into the same restrictions as everyone else and can only do a few transactions every few minutes. Which is why the margins widen and the market has flowed better after an app update. It takes the bot makers a bit to do and push out adjustments.
Psy
Not really. Margins are non-existent this morning with tons of orders that net tiny margins that no human would post, while actual humans are restricted. Bots are still finding a way while we're getting capped.
From what I could tell, there were no restrictions this morning. I tried it with a low tier card, both posting a bunch and refreshing in the app.
After posting 5 sell orders this morning ,my app stopped processing transactions and I had an in-app restricted message.
4 cards is not a thing
Please check the video linked in this other thread.
https://forums.theshow.com/post/770267
The exact same thing is happening to me
EDIT: Technically it's 5 orders and then a hard stop as shown. Still, 4 or 5, same experience.
So I guess pick your poison: bots or account restrictions. I think I’ll take the bots but still unsure.
Except right now we have both bots AND account restrictions. Worst of both worlds...
The app is slow right now (no limit capping though), but the console has been slow since yesterday, so I think that's just a server thing and not an app thing.
Margins have been shrinking again today, hard to say if it's 100% bots or if it's just market ebbs and flows.
Whatever was going on Tuesday to Wednesday or so was great. Could post 10 or so orders, pause few seconds, and post more, and the margins were great.
The last few days we had the 2 or 3 order hard close cap.
Today it was uncapped and easy to post as many orders as you wanted. The margins immediately collapsed with noticable bot behavior.
Can we go back to whatever was working Tuesday/Wednesday?
App has been amazing but is it down for everyone else right now?
Yeah it died on me right after I posted above.
Yeah, the app has been smoother today but the margins have evaporated now
I was able to log in and quickly post all the orders I wanted to without any issue. So however it's set right now is great!
Thanks for working on this and the communication, Manu!
....aaaaaaany now I can't log in to the app at all.
Another thing that's weird I've noticed is every silver bat I looked has ~500 sell orders each at both 50 and 55 stubs. This is clearly not human behavior.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fbXdfMF5fjufsjMTA
I don't know how stacking hundreds of bat sells helps the bots, but with the 19 order limit per account, it's also incredibly bizarre.
@Gary-Hoggatt_PSN must be nice. I still can only do 2 buy / sells. If I do 3rd I’m restricted
Yeah, I guess I spoke too soon, I'm back down to 2 or 3 now myself, unfortunately.
Howdy,
all my filters will be turned off at
23H00 Pacific- ya'll let me know if all things get better!
I can now go six orders before the app locks up for me. Then I get the restricted warning and can't open any cards pages to view or bring up the transaction options via long press.
So whatever you did changed it from 4 to 6 before whatever problem is happening locks in.
I can't even get logged in to the app right now.
@gary-hoggatt_psn @thecaffeineking_mlbts @psylockesmythe_xbl @alexhumecki1310_xbl
none of yours account are banned or restricted
I get that I'm not REALLY banned or restricted, but I keep getting the restricted message every 4 transactions in the app, and can't continue without closing and re-opening the app.