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....done with chasing the big collections. I will just start enjoying the game for what it is and earn cards through gameplay and occasionally go after smaller collections of my favorites that I like to use. I'm tired of implementation of different strategies in the marketplace to slow down bots only to fail and I get punished for using the marketplace that are within the parameters of ToS. Now I have to improve my risk score in order to buy/sell on the marketplace even though I was doing that within the parameters of ToS to begin with. There is nothing in the ToS that says you can't mash that finalize order faster than greased lightning, if there is please direct me to it and I will be stand corrected. All these freaking hoops that need to be jumped through now to buy/sell on the app is way overly convoluted. It's becoming more complicated than it really needs to be.

I'll continue to do some gold exchanges but my engagement with the app will be less, hoping 50% less than what it was. I'm tired of getting my knuckles smacked for buying and selling and exchanging within SDS's own written ToS.

SDS you need to go after the demons who are really are doing you all harm the content creators who are promoting the 3rd party sites.

SDS stop hunting for the demons under rocks by cooling down honest players for 22 hrs that are abiding by your own thought out and written rules. All the while those demons are right in front of you on the screen on YouTube literally telling people to cheat and steal from you. If that wasn't bad enough they'll say if you get caught do like we do create an alt account and go out and buy more discounted stubs ffrom whatever 3rd party site and you'll be back to where you were in no time. I think SDS, that is called biting your nose off to spite yourselves.

I saw in a post on here, I don't remember where it was or who said it, but it was something like this in not so many words this is the gist of it, the time, attention and resources spent hasn't slowed down the bots, the 3rd party sites adjust the script and they are back to creating havoc again. The post goes on to say and it was a run on sentence so I'm guessing this would be sentence two. That resources and time spent would have been better spent fixing the game itself to be more playable, more content ect. That's a really good and interesting thought. I hope this could be a lightbulb moment for the ones in charge at SDS. Unfortunately, the lightbulbs have been switched out for dollar bills and that's why nothing is working right now.

@Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

@DrBear100_PSN said:

@Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

I totally get why Manu has to do what he's doing, even if it means some legitimate players get caught in the crosshairs. It's not ideal, but if this is mainly about getting through the rest of this year and there's potentially a bigger platform change coming next year that makes it much harder for bots to operate, I can live with some growing pains. I'm trying to stay positive because SDS is in an awful spot when so many people are constantly looking for ways to break the rules.

I agree with you to some degree but isn't SDS kinda laying in the bed that they made for themselves?

I don't think SDS is to blame for people botting the system, cheating, promoting 3rd party stub sites... or the fact that many of the content creators in the community are the most toxic content creators of, probably any gaming community.

I can see your point but you can't also say this just exploded overnight either. There had to be warming signs and people warning SDS of issues if they didn't step in and do something about it.

I am not at all fully blaming SDS but they do bear some responsibility in all this.

How much responsibility, I have no idea because I don't know much they knew, when they first knew about it, noone will know when the alarm bells first went off at SDS. Except for SDS and if they aren't transparent about the game itself they are not going to be transparent about this because culpability is wrapped into this.

@Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

I totally get why Manu has to do what he's doing, even if it means some legitimate players get caught in the crosshairs. It's not ideal, but if this is mainly about getting through the rest of this year and there's potentially a bigger platform change coming next year that makes it much harder for bots to operate, I can live with some growing pains. I'm trying to stay positive because SDS is in an awful spot when so many people are constantly looking for ways to break the rules.

I agree with you to some degree but isn't SDS kinda laying in the bed that they made for themselves?

@Manu__SDS_MLBTS

Thank you, I know you are working hard on this and appreciate your communication.

Thanks @manu__sds_mlbts for clarifying. My concern is the same as @bridge-piece_xbl. I buy bulk 75 silvers to turn around exchange for gold packs. At times I'll flip some bronzes but not often. I want to continue doing the exchange but not at the risk of a 22hr naughty corner visit.

It would be amazing if you could PM me to give some general do not dos without getting into the specifics, that can help me keep from not tagging you, I'm sure I can be very annoying. I've tried a couple things I've read on line but got 1 or 2 error messages which I thought you turned off. Anyways keep fighting the good fight. Hopeful the marketplace will like you said heal but it's very doubtful you'll slow the 3rd party slime ball stub sites down and the marketplace completely heal until you all corral CC and make them stop promoting them. IP bans...hint hint. It feels like a whack a mole and like I said before it's the honest players who are getting wacked. The promoters just hop onto their secondary accounts as nothing ever happened and the 3rd party sites all they do is adjust and continue reek havoc on you guys. I'm getting sick of getting wacked and more so the very few innocents that got banned and won't have the chance to plead their case and have an unbiased review.

Dozier in the path does that mean some of the more expensive primes drop.?

@Bridge-Piece_XBL

Its absolutely not okay. We are all(all as in us honest players)in this mess because allowing CC to get away with things because it brings free advertising. So, because of that CC got big headed, felt invincible, probably felt like SDS wasn't going to do anything to them no matter what sin they commit because SDS needs them for advertising. Because of that CC start telling their minion followers to exploit glitches, buy 3rd party stubs. What does CC care if any of their minion followers get banned as long as it doesn't happen to them.

So SDS needs to figure out a solution to this mess but without pissing off the CC to much because they still need them because they are free advertising. That's why you have this drag net thing going on right now. They're really not solving the issue as long as these promoters of 3rd party sites are allowed to have secondary accounts, because even with a ban they are probably still getting free stuff from SDS on their other accounts. They are still promoting the game as well as promoting on how to cheat the game. They are double dipping.

There people are saying go after 3rd party sites legally, that's not going to happen. They cyber criminals that more and likely run those sites. They would close down the site quicker then you can blink and slither back into shadows never to be seen again. That's why go after promoters, stop the promotion, this stuff will probably go away. But free advertising is still a lot of money saved in the eyes of SDS.

@markemark_NSW

Pretty much sounds like it.

A mess was created and honest innocent people playing this game now have to deal wit theh consequences and the promoters and stub sites keep marching on. Something bad wrong here Bobby.

@x-814-x-MAFIA-x_PSN said:

But if youre really worried about it, just do what YFK did, and make another account.

IP BAN THAT JACK@SS!

I know there ways around that but it's extremely difficult to do. It'll slow him down quite a bit.

Ooh, I love David Wright's cards. Or even a Chipper card??? Milestone Miggy might be riding the pine if it's any one of those two.

@Rubbaneck34_XBL

Hey wait a minute, you knocking on Roblox?!

Actually.... I never played it.

Basically its a risk score the lower the number higher the risk of potential automation. It's not saying that anyone is using automation, it's saying there is a high risk that automation is going on, hence the cool down period. It's not saying anyone is doing anything wrong it's saying there's an elevated risk that there could be. It's not a ban or even a suspension. Basically, SDS is putting us in timeout.

To raise your score (now at least for me) it'll take some time to raise it up because it goes off.your history. If you start off historically bad, you essentially need to create a new history which takes time. Here are some things that lower your score but not lmited to these, buying or selingl to fast of multiple orders like flipping huge lots of commons or bronze on teams with no diamonds. If you're using a VPN that can lower your score, using different networks and devices, constantly checking orders and constantly repostioning orders to get them sold will lower your score. I think for most of us its buying and selling to fast and constantly checking our orders, canceling them and then repositioning them so they will sell.

I encourage everyone who wants to improve your score to Google or use your favorite AI research this version of reCAPTHCHA. It's actually pretty cool, you don't have to play those stupid puzzle games. But man, what convoluted way of doing of things where a simple IP ban on promoters of 3rd party stub sites ie, content creators, one person comes to mind, would deter their minion followers from purchasing from those sites. Effectively damaging those sites business. Not much money coming in means bye bye bots, they will sitting on a glut of worthless stubs and noone to sell them to.

@manu__sds_mlbts

I know you can't go into detail to much but I understand the concept of reCAPTCHA but besides that, everything else you are speaking is ailenese to me.

How do I work on my score how am I scored, how do I stay in the parameters.

Thank you @manu__sds_mlbts, kinda fooled me I still have the timer at the bottom of my screen

Is 22hr BS app only, can I finish on the console?

@manu__sds_mlbts

Where is my pass bro? I got 21hrs to go.

@manu__sds_mlbts

BTW, thanks for the pass. I knew there was a reason that I like you

Failed, what is failed attempts?

@Manu__SDS_MLBTS

It can happen to me again if I flip to many cards in a certain amount of time, basically