Players not on 40 man roster in MLB?
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This has to do with DFAed players.
The players I'm having trouble with are not DFAed. They are not on the 40 man roster and I have no option to DFA them.
EDIT: Also, when you DFA a player, they are removed from the MLB roster and go to AAA. The players I have are still on the MLB roster.
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Read the link and see WHY you can't DFA them.
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You're not quite understanding my situation.
I control ALL 30 teams. I control all rosters, trading and waiver claims. I have not DFAed any players. I have not claimed any players off waivers.
I am 3 weeks into spring training. Any player that WAS DFAed would have been either released or sent to the minors. Any player that WAS claimed off waivers would be on the 40 man roster.
The players in question are NOT on the 40 man roster and ARE on the MLB 26 man active roster. Neither of these things would be possible if the were DFAed or claimed off waivers.
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@StinkyMcPooter_XBL Do you have anyone on the IL? I've seen this occur in spring training before when a player hits the IL. it'll promote somebody who is not on the 40 man roster to the majors to take their place. Since IRL, anybody in the organization can appear in Spring Training games, there's nothing wrong about that. It just seems bizarre since the game typically only allows players on the 40 man to participate in Spring Training. Which is wrong and I've long wished they'd change. In any case, once the regular season starts it returns those non-40 man players to the minors.
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No one is on the IL. I think I might see where the glitch is coming from.
All the players have been removed from the 40 man roster. Normally, when you remove a player from the 40 man, once they clear waivers, they are sent down to AAA. This has happened in every iteration of MLBTS.
However, this year, it seems the 5 year rule with players is superseding the automatic demotion to AAA causing a paradox where you can't send the player to AAA due to the rule and you can't DFA them because they are not on the 40 man roster.
The game should not allow you to remove them due to this rule and only allow you to DFA them.
The only choice left is to either release them or re-add them to the 40 man roster and trade them.
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@StinkyMcPooter_XBL ah. did you previously DFA them? or were they on minor league deals to begin with? if they were previously DFA'd it kind of makes sense. IRL a player with 5 years of service time can reject the outright assignment to AAA, leaving you no choice but to release them. and they're guaranteed their full salary.
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They weren't DFAed, just removed from the 40 man roster.
This has never been an issue before. You could remove anyone of any experience from the 40 man and they would go to AAA.
I'm not saying this is wrong, I'm saying there should be safeguards in place so this doesn't happen. I shouldn't be allowed to remove them from the 40 man without DFAing them.
And, of course, I'm not saying this is the problem. I have many players in their late 30s who I have removed from the 40 man roster and they cleared waivers and went to AAA.
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Great job dissecting the issue. Curious how it would handle these players if you carried this through to the beginning of the regular season.
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Okay, so I ran a test on all these guys. I added them back to the 40 man roster and then removed them ... again.
Everything worked as it should. All the players were moved to AAA after they cleared waivers.
So, I'm stumped. The only thing I have left is it might it have something to do with the CPU moving all players on the 40 man roster to the MLB active roster at the beginning of spring training. Though, they aren't ON the 40 man roster so, who knows?
At any rate, if anyone finds themselves in this spot, there is a workaround. If you have a full 40 man roster, you will subject 2 players to waivers. If you just release them, you'll have to pay their salary. But either option might be better than a 39 year old has-been taking up a roster spot.
