Market Bots
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Maybe I'm late, but seems blatantly obvious that there are bots on the market. I'll put in bids that get 1 stubbed instantly, even if I pick strange unpredictable amounts. I'm not talking about like 4-5 second later, it literally seems like these bids are coming within half a second of mine posting...too fast for it to be a human. Does SDS do anything about stuff like this? I'm sure it's against their terms of service
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I agree, it's just instant poof, you are outbid by one. You could reduce it almost to the equaling the sell now price and it still happens.
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@eatyum_PSN
I had a thing with my friend when whenever I put in an order for the most random played (I’d be watching the player’s unmoving market for ten prior minutes) and all of the sudden it got outbid I’d be like “THE BOTS MAN. THEY’RE COMING.” Why is this still a thing? -
I agree, I almost enjoy flipping as much as playing the game and the bots just ruin it.
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SDS has gotta do something. Flipping is impossible, today any card with any decent margin, there's a bot that's cancelling 2 bids and replacing with 2 orders 1 stub above mine. It's the same bot on 6 different cards today at least
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Thank you for posting. It’s blatantly obvious there are bots. Today was really bad. Just imagine what it’ll be like when everyone else gets their hands on the game. It ruins flipping for everyone. Proof? Just look up StubBot on google. WHY ARE WE ALLOWING THIS? It takes 10 minutes of research for a dev to look it up and say “yeah, this is an issue”. The incompetence is almost becoming equal to madden and 2k. Something as easy as MFA or Captcha can solve this but by all means, ignore it.
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It should be really simple for them to recognize the activity and ban the accounts. I know they have other issues to work on with the game but would be nice for them to prioritize this. People doing this are probably selling on a secondary market.
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By doing nothing, SDS is saying using a bot is OK and there will be no consequences. I guess if you want to compete and be able to use the market, use a bot.
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This has been suggested for a few years now, it’s not really anything new.
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20 cap limit is going to make this x100 worse
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@Misael_1225_MLBTS no it's not..the cap limit would actually limit the bots if anything
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@Stinkysman77_MLBTS wish this was the case but now people are getting desperate and bots are becoming easier to access you’ll see
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@Misael_1225_MLBTS ok but explain to me how the cap are going to make it worse with bots?
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@Stinkysman77_MLBTS if you take away a legitimate way to earn stubs in non-gameplay aspectsthen people are gonna look for shortcuts, especially with the difficulty of the game it happens in every game
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@Misael_1225_MLBTS not everyone even knows how to do the bots..i sure don't
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@Stinkysman77_MLBTS exactly because you didn’t need to now people are gonna think they need to plus the main bot users are people who sell stubs on third-party sites now more demand for that than ever seen tons of discords saying they can’t handle the amount of orders they’re getting right now because there’s no way to make stubs legitimately in the game unless you’re really good or can devote hundreds of hours
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Yeah so the 20 limit will cut them down ...and not many people know how to do it...so it's not really going to spike the way you say
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@Stinkysman77_MLBTS it’s one Google search away. It’s not a hard thing to find. And the 20 limit doesn’t affect them at all. It only affected people doing roster updates and not having to spend thousands on stubs
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By doing nothing, SDS is saying using a bot is OK and there will be no consequences. I guess if you want to compete and be able to use the market, use a bot.
!!!!! this^^^^
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The 20 card cap is stupid but it isn't going to make bots worse, it honestly just doesn't really impact the bots at all. Having an order cap would limit the bots, but I just can't understand why their policy would be to place restrictions that impact the user rather than just banning bots from the market and going after third party stub sellers in court. Activision is far from a shining example, but their approach to going after people using exploits was to go after the cheat sellers AND implement a system for detecting cheats and banning accounts. SDS should be applying the same concepts here...but should be able to execute better as the problem isn't nearly as severe as cheating in Call of Duty. If they do nothing, it won't be long before there are 500 bots fighting each other for orders and the market is completely pointless. If I had internal access to who's placing what order, I could find the bot accounts in 5 minutes. Simply place an order on a profitable card, and watch within a fraction of a second as 2 orders get placed 1 stub above yours, and then review account data to see that account has placed an impossible number of unique orders...more than a human could do. They could have AI doing that and flagging accounts for a human to review/ban...them not doing it means they don't care
