Joe Carter most underrated player
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Yikes
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Go look at Zimmerman and Neil Walkers Accomplishments and then Go look at Joe Carters careers. Look at the MVP voting, the AS appearances the awards over a career mean nothing you you people who only believe that a players career is solely based of War which is based on a formula and not how a player actually played.
You dont know how to use this site. You arent responding to anyone. Anyways nobody is basing anything off war. Carter wasnt thay great outside of war. Zimmerman has a better OPS.
Again what has Zimmerman done, How many AS games how many top 10 or 20 MVP voting. You really think Ryan Zimmerman was a better player cause WAR tells you that. This is laughable
Is everyone on this site just brain dead? Can you read dude? For now the second time Zimmerman has a better career OPS.......thats not WAR. Thats a traditional stat. It is laughable that you cant read or use google
When you will get it that comparing Zimmerman to Carter proved my point that WAR is overrated.
I hope you are just trolling at this point. Ryan zimmerman is the better player by traditional stats as well, as I have pointed out many times now
Not even close at all, Accomplishments will show that.
Dude. You are slow. Are you really going to use all star appearances as a measure to who is better? Is starlin castro better than kris bryant?
Since WAR is to much for your brain lets use traditional stats.
BA - Ryan
OBP- ryan
Slugging - ryanThe dude has a better Batting average, on base and slugging. What even is the argument anymore? Ryan zimmerman is the better player and its not just WAR that tells us that. You didnt do very well in school did you?
Actually dude has been pretty clear what he's getting at, and you're too slow to hear it. Here's the point:
I think people remember Joe Carter as fondly as they do because of context. Think about it this way:
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He was the cleanup hitter on back-to-back champion Jays teams.
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He was the best RF in the American League at the time. Canseco was better, but not by 92-93 thanks to injuries, Winfield was a DH now, and nobody else was close. The NL the only one clearly better was Tony Gwynn. Could make an argument for a young Larry Walker/Dave Justice, but they were really young at the time.
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Also remember he came up big in the WS for the Blue Jays. He had 11 RBI in 12 WS games those 2 years, including the walkoff homer that won the '93 series.
Put into context, people watching baseball between 1985-1995 thought Joe Carter was a great player. Not sure-fire HOF material, but borderline.
Can you ever even make something resembling an argument that Ryan Zimmerman:
- Received any real MVP consideration in any year?
- Meant much of anything to a team that won anything?
- Would be considered anywhere close to the best player at his position in the NL, or top 2-3 in the MLB?
The Jays, who were already good, traded away Fred McGriff and Tony Fernandez (McGriff was great, and Fernandez was a good hitter, really fast, and an elite SS), in their primes, to get Joe Carter. That says a lot for how the MLB viewed that player in 1990. Zimmerman has always been viewed as a good player, but not a difference maker. Joe Carter was. No context when you just look at numbers of players who played 25 years apart.
Id like you to send me the people who thought a 306 on base was borderline HOF.
I can make a resembling argument that Zimmerman was a significantly better hitter by all metrics. The OPS isnt all that close. And yes Zim was 100% considered a top tier third baseman in his prime.
We are sitting here arguing about a 770 ops hitter. Just because he played on good teams and hit a cool home run makes him better than someone who is clearly better by all metrics AND traditional stats. Better average on base and slugging. And some arent even close. Thats Weird.
I actually agree with most of what you said, I just disagree in my opinion Carter was better, We just look at the stats differently and the 306 is not much lower than Zimmermans 343. I will take the 400 plus 300 plus HR the less K rate per plate appearance and Carters 771 to Zimmerman's 818 not much of a difference and over 200 more Rs, almost 200 more SB. SlG is very close, Zimmerman had more BB. I do not think Carter is a HOF. I do think what puts him there is the WS and playoff performances.
Bruh. A 306 to a 343 on base is HUGEEEEE. Once again he had 2000 more ABs. Thats why his counting stats are better. So yes you would take a 771 OPS to a 818 OPS, which is just insane and makes no sense.
You saying you will take carter because of what he did in the playoffs is actually a real correct arguement. Because during the regular season across their entire careers zim was the better hitter
Go take Carters 7 best seasons and put them next to Zimmermans 7 best. It ain’t even close
You are right lol. Its not close.
Full seasons only
Carters best 5 OPS - 849, 841, 833, 808, 802
Zim- 930, 899, 888, 824, 824
You were correct. It wasnt close. This dude you love so much never saw a OPS above 850 for a full season.
Dude there is more to a player stat then OPS get off the OPS [censored] already, How many WS did the A's win building teams around OPS? 0 again 0 and again 0 every year since Money Ball Model arrived
OPS is what everyone is using lmao. It shows how often you are in base and how often you slug. Its literally the best stat to show how good a hitter is. And joe effing carter never once OPSed over 850.
Bro. Go look at the last 5 world series winners and where they ranked in OPS. Im not sure why you just used a team with zero budget to prove a point lmao.
The Astros Tank one of those WS by cheating and it is possible so did the RedSox
besides the point. Nats were sixth last year .houston was first. The year before. Boston was first, dodgers were third. 2017 -astros first. 2016- cubs third indians 5th.
Turns out the best teams have the best OPS! how crazy is it that the best teams get on base and hit for power!!!! CRAZYYYYYYY
Im genuinely curious as to who you think is the best hitter of all time, no argument, just wondering you think it is
Modern era would be Barry bonds and Mike trout
Nah I’m not talking era, best of all time
Barry bonds or mike trout.
Neither one of those guys ever hit over .400
Uh so lmao?
You said hitter the best hitters ever so year the best are who over .400. The best hitter in the last 40 years I would say Tony Gywnn
You would rather have tony gwynn on your team than barry bonds hahahahahaha. Who gives a flying [censored] about 400. That does not mean literally anything. If you would take tony gwynn over trout or bonds then you are just a [censored] dude.
That was not the question!!!!!!!!
Who is the best slap hitter ever also was not the question. If you were a manager would you rather have bonds or tony at the dish. Pretty simple.
This logic right here also applies to Carter and Zimmerman.
Ask 30 managers which one they would rather have at the dish in a WS game.
Asking who you would take for an entire career is not the same as who you would take in one single game. And for either question its barry bonds. Also the fact that I even have an argument zim is better shows how dumb it is to converse over joe freaking carter.
I would not take Bonds I would take Ty Cobb
Ok then you are just dumb. Which was established when you started defending Mr 18 WAR like he was babe ruth.
You thinking Bonds is better is like the recency bias people have when they say Lebron is better Jordan.
Btw this is a perfect example of media. The gap between Bonds and his peers or greats is easily equal to the gap between Jordan and any peer or great. Besides the roids thing. The media hated Bonds and he never had a huge sponsorship as a by product. People didn’t like him. So there was never a narrative about him being the greatest. And if you think that was because of roids your crazy because people loved Sammy and Mac and everyone knew what was up. It was only until heated players like Clemens and bonds got in on it.
Comparing bonds to ruth is not even in the same galaxy as comparing jordan to lebron. Lebron and Mikes careers almost overlapped. Ruth played when black people couldnt even play yet. Not the same thing.
This is not a perfect example to what you were trying to get at with the whole nike and media brainwashed us thing. Not at all. But if that wasnt your point I somewhat agree. Even though now bonds is widely considered the best hitter ever by most.
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Yikes
Yikes? What is a yikes? Babe ruth only played against white people in the 1920s. Why would I ever consider him better than barry bonds?
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Bonds spent 8-10 years roiding up to get those numbers try again.
Try what again? Do you people know baseball reference and fangraphs are free?!
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Yikes
Yikes? What is a yikes? Babe ruth only played against white people in the 1920s. Why would I ever consider him better than barry bonds?
Babe Ruth played Negro League players with his Babe Ruth All-Stars team
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Bonds spent 8-10 years roiding up to get those numbers try again.
Try what again? Do you people know baseball reference and fangraphs are free?!
Yes. But you don't get to say Ruth's greatness doesn't count, but build up the greatness of the most notorious steroid abuser of them all at the same time. Bonds wasn't among the 10 best hitters ever before 2000, after which point the cream and the clear did their thing, and he traded in the completeness of his game to become the greatest hitter of all time.
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Bonds spent 8-10 years roiding up to get those numbers try again.
Try what again? Do you people know baseball reference and fangraphs are free?!
Yes. But you don't get to say Ruth's greatness doesn't count, but build up the greatness of the most notorious steroid abuser of them all at the same time. Bonds wasn't among the 10 best hitters ever before 2000, after which point the cream and the clear did their thing, and he traded in the completeness of his game to become the greatest hitter of all time.
Never said “it didnt count”
Bonds very well could of been considered a top 10 hitter before he started juicing. Most think he started juicing in 99. Before 99 he had 3 MVPs and OPSed above 1000 7 times. Thats um pretty good.
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Yikes
Yikes? What is a yikes? Babe ruth only played against white people in the 1920s. Why would I ever consider him better than barry bonds?
Babe Ruth played Negro League players with his Babe Ruth All-Stars team
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
So Trump is irrelevant. I agree
Nah hes your president and will be for four more years!
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Bonds spent 8-10 years roiding up to get those numbers try again.
Try what again? Do you people know baseball reference and fangraphs are free?!
Yes. But you don't get to say Ruth's greatness doesn't count, but build up the greatness of the most notorious steroid abuser of them all at the same time. Bonds wasn't among the 10 best hitters ever before 2000, after which point the cream and the clear did their thing, and he traded in the completeness of his game to become the greatest hitter of all time.
Never said “it didnt count”
Bonds very well could of been considered a top 10 hitter before he started juicing. Most think he started juicing in 99. Before 99 he had 3 MVPs and OPSed above 1000 7 times. Thats um pretty good.
Yes. He was one of the 10 greatest all around players of all time - because he was a true 5 tool player before 2000. But he had a career slugging average of like .550. He did not have numbers that compared to the truly elite hitters like Ruth, Hornsby, Williams...those guys. He was great because he did everything extremely well. He traded in his fielding, arm, and speed to become the hitter he became. Without roids he's not in a 'greatest hitter of all time" discussion.
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Bonds spent 8-10 years roiding up to get those numbers try again.
Try what again? Do you people know baseball reference and fangraphs are free?!
Yes. But you don't get to say Ruth's greatness doesn't count, but build up the greatness of the most notorious steroid abuser of them all at the same time. Bonds wasn't among the 10 best hitters ever before 2000, after which point the cream and the clear did their thing, and he traded in the completeness of his game to become the greatest hitter of all time.
Never said “it didnt count”
Bonds very well could of been considered a top 10 hitter before he started juicing. Most think he started juicing in 99. Before 99 he had 3 MVPs and OPSed above 1000 7 times. Thats um pretty good.
Yes. He was one of the 10 greatest all around players of all time - because he was a true 5 tool player before 2000. But he had a career slugging average of like .550. He did not have numbers that compared to the truly elite hitters like Ruth, Hornsby, Williams...those guys. He was great because he did everything extremely well. He traded in his fielding, arm, and speed to become the hitter he became. Without roids he's not in a 'greatest hitter of all time" discussion.
A career 550 slugger is top 20 ever.
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Bonds spent 8-10 years roiding up to get those numbers try again.
Try what again? Do you people know baseball reference and fangraphs are free?!
So are a lot of reliable news outlets, yet you obviously don’t take advantage of those. Burn.
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Bonds spent 8-10 years roiding up to get those numbers try again.
Try what again? Do you people know baseball reference and fangraphs are free?!
So are a lot of reliable news outlets, yet you obviously don’t take advantage of those. Burn.
I legit LOL'D haha
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Bonds spent 8-10 years roiding up to get those numbers try again.
Try what again? Do you people know baseball reference and fangraphs are free?!
So are a lot of reliable news outlets, yet you obviously don’t take advantage of those. Burn.
Ill be right back as I go brainwash myself listening to biased paid for news sources. BRB!
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
This is the dumbest thing you have said today. Someone is racist
I ask you this seriously. Are you autistic? Because you seem to not grasp simple things that are clearly laid out for you.
Honestly man, [censored] you. Why can’t you just have a civil baseball discussion with other people without insulting them/making fun of those with mental illnesses? Get the [censored] off the forums and don’t come back.
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
Bonds spent 8-10 years roiding up to get those numbers try again.
Try what again? Do you people know baseball reference and fangraphs are free?!
So are a lot of reliable news outlets, yet you obviously don’t take advantage of those. Burn.
Ill be right back as I go brainwash myself listening to biased paid for news sources. BRB!
I don't get this logic. Fangraphs and BR = reliable. MSM = biased.
So David Appelman has no inherent bias?
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@GrandpaShaft still waiting on that best hitter of all time dude
Bro i responded weirdo. Mike trout. Barry bonds. Take your pick. One of them. If I was a GM and had a choice of every hitter to ever play Id choose one of them.
Actually you said modern era so sorry for asking about all time.
Odd you didn’t pick Babe Ruth who leads in both OPS and WAR though, kinda weird to base your whole argument on Joe Carter on stats you don’t base your best hitter all time onSomeone who didnt play against black or spanish people is entirely irrelevant to everything. Bonds leads in both in the modern era. Try again.
This is the dumbest thing you have said today. Someone is racist
I ask you this seriously. Are you autistic? Because you seem to not grasp simple things that are clearly laid out for you.
Honestly man, [censored] you. Why can’t you just have a civil baseball discussion with other people without insulting them/making fun of those with mental illnesses? Get the [censored] off the forums and don’t come back.
The dude just called me racist because I said babe ruth only played against white people. You deserve all name calling when you say something that stupid.
