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Is skill becoming less relevant?

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  • The_Joneser_PSNT Offline
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    @bryan44177, that would be true if not for the fact that it isn't.

    It's named the Plate Coverage Indicator, not "The Bat," and it clearly moves all around the zone when you wiggle the stick, yet the bat stays rooted on the player's shoulder. That should be your biggest clue.

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    @The_Joneser lol yes it’s where the bat is going to go during the swing not standing at the plate flipping it around like a lunatic.

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    @bryan44177, it's where you want the bat to go (where you are looking), not a guarantee of where it will go; just like looking right at a fastball in real life and somehow swinging right through it when you're absolutely sure that you had it dead to rights.

    There are a lot of variables that go into generating those odds, and while it is true that, in this game, those are hard hit balls more often than not (hence the disappointment when they are not), it is not a guaranteed outcome and it shouldn't be.

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    @The_Joneser said in Is skill becoming less relevant?:

    @bryan44177, that would be true if not for the fact that it isn't.

    It's named the Plate Coverage Indicator, not "The Bat," and it clearly moves all around the zone when you wiggle the stick, yet the bat stays rooted on the player's shoulder. That should be your biggest clue.

    Do you know what object indicates your coverage of the Plate in real life?

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    @chucky97___ , the closest approximation to an object would be your eyes, unless you stretch things a bit and consider vision itself and the brain's processing of the information it gleans to be that representation. In real life, you simply look at the ball and try to figure out where it's going and when it will get there, and the rest is up to physical execution and the hope that your body can pull it off by putting the bat where your eyes and brain tell you it should go, and that only happens about 30% of the time.

    Look, I know that my opinion is not that of the majority so take that for what you will, but I believe the introduction of the PCI was the worst thing that could have ever happened to a baseball game. I think it gives the "but my skill" crowd reason to insist that the failure and heartbreak--and the pure joy of overcoming odds stacked against you--that comprise the heart of this beautiful sport should be negated because they're really good at Call of Duty. I'm not a fan of reducing baseball to a targeting exercise. I'm glad that SDS has not yet succumbed to that line of thinking and they insist on some statistically driven outcomes that don't exactly line up with user input, and my opinion is that those whose argument is that "this is a video game" fail to grasp that most people love this game because they love baseball, and they want the game to look like the sport they love.

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    The pci is not the bat argument went out the door when they gave us a bat pci lol

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    @The_Joneser no I get that. Everyone in here loves baseball. Doesn’t take away from this is in fact a video game. If it is just a bunch of randomness and the cpu dictates when I get a hit or not then what’s the point of playing when you can just watch your favorite team in real life and accomplish the same thing.

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    @bryan44177, it isn't simply random; it's input tempered by situational attribute-based chance, and there's plenty of control over the game to distinguish it from the passive activity of watching... I don't want Tyler Nevin to have just as good a chance of scorching a line drive as Ronald Acuna Jr if I place a target properly, and I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would.

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    @TheCanuckler309
    It is ironic that SDS said that "the PCI is not the bat" and then gave us a bat PCI reticle. lol

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MLBTheShow/comments/t672rw/pci_does_not_represent_the_bat/

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    @xElRojo44x, it's understandable, though... sometimes catering to people's misconceptions and playing off of their inability to understand what is actually happening can increase their engagement. Lots of real world examples of that phenomenon all around us...

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