Food for thought
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@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
This man acting like a lot of people in RL don't get mad about losing. Everyone is a perfect saint who's only motive in posting negative things is to better the game.
Not to mention, this site, reddit, and Twitter don't represent the majority of the game, most people go about playing it without ever posting, so drawing any conclusions based on posts is folly.
The reason so many people claim about the game forcing them to lose is simple, if something is repeated enough, it gets believed. I see a post that claims the game is making that person lose, I remember times I lost, and suddenly I start thinking, wait what if it's not me? Plenty of people want that excuse.
If I tell you to look for Yellow cars, suddenly you'll start seeing yellow cars everywhere because you are aware of it. Even though the amount of Yellow cars didn't actually increase, you just weren't looking for it before.
Same principle applies here. We all know the game isn't perfect and there are flaws, but if someone is looking for the game purposingly making them lose, they will see those flaws as intentional actions, and surmise the game is making them lose.
I’m sorry but when there’s video/photo being shared of the game doing stupid stuff that benefits one opponent over the other, well you can’t sit and say players are just imagining it. It actually happened, it was captured and shared. Funny thing is this topic is brought up multiple times a year, every year. It’s not a coincidence that many players are “imagining” things.
I didn't say they were imagining flaws. Never once did I say that. And no it's not a coincidence people think the game is forcing them to lose, as I said, if something gets repeated enough it gets believed.
I'm saying the flaws are just flaws, and by their nature, they will screw one person over more then the other in any small sample size, such as in a game. Or with flaws do you think they should screw everybody equally in each individual game?
You don’t have to believe anything when you are able to record it, it’s a fact at that point that it happened. Players post bs happening in this game all year, every year.
Why hasn’t SDS been able to fix these “flaws” then.
Good players can overcome those “flaws” by giving the RNG hitting a higher number to work with. These “flaws” are determining games for the average/below average players....surely you can understand their frustration with that.
I understand their frustration, your trying to twist my words here. Yes, people record weird stuff that shouldn't happen, that's not shocking at all, THERE ARE FLAWS IN THE GAME, SO OF COURSE PEOPLE WILL HAVE PICTURES OF SUCH AN OCCURENCE.
That doesn't = the game is forcing them to lose, so again, I ask you "Or with flaws do you think they should screw everybody equally in each individual game?" PLEASE ANSWER THAT.
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@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
This man acting like a lot of people in RL don't get mad about losing. Everyone is a perfect saint who's only motive in posting negative things is to better the game.
Not to mention, this site, reddit, and Twitter don't represent the majority of the game, most people go about playing it without ever posting, so drawing any conclusions based on posts is folly.
The reason so many people claim about the game forcing them to lose is simple, if something is repeated enough, it gets believed. I see a post that claims the game is making that person lose, I remember times I lost, and suddenly I start thinking, wait what if it's not me? Plenty of people want that excuse.
If I tell you to look for Yellow cars, suddenly you'll start seeing yellow cars everywhere because you are aware of it. Even though the amount of Yellow cars didn't actually increase, you just weren't looking for it before.
Same principle applies here. We all know the game isn't perfect and there are flaws, but if someone is looking for the game purposingly making them lose, they will see those flaws as intentional actions, and surmise the game is making them lose.
I’m sorry but when there’s video/photo being shared of the game doing stupid stuff that benefits one opponent over the other, well you can’t sit and say players are just imagining it. It actually happened, it was captured and shared. Funny thing is this topic is brought up multiple times a year, every year. It’s not a coincidence that many players are “imagining” things.
I didn't say they were imagining flaws. Never once did I say that. And no it's not a coincidence people think the game is forcing them to lose, as I said, if something gets repeated enough it gets believed.
I'm saying the flaws are just flaws, and by their nature, they will screw one person over more then the other in any small sample size, such as in a game. Or with flaws do you think they should screw everybody equally in each individual game?
You don’t have to believe anything when you are able to record it, it’s a fact at that point that it happened. Players post bs happening in this game all year, every year.
Why hasn’t SDS been able to fix these “flaws” then.
Good players can overcome those “flaws” by giving the RNG hitting a higher number to work with. These “flaws” are determining games for the average/below average players....surely you can understand their frustration with that.
I can respect this POV. I just can’t respect the OP’s conspiracy.
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@eatyum said in Food for thought:
Are you really going to sit there and say people are not influenced by what other people say? That people don't read things and then get unconscious bias after reading something?
Nope, not gonna say that because that's a solid point. But, ya also gotta look at the potential, and more likely, other-side of that ticket.
People are saying stuff, venting their frustration, because they have a supportive team of many others that share identical stories. More stories and various AI interventions than I can put a number to. They are sick and tired of being bamboozled, flim-flammed, conned and told "you just need to practice". So, they speak out. That is more likely, but what do I know.
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@dcordash1 said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
Are you really going to sit there and say people are not influenced by what other people say? That people don't read things and then get unconscious bias after reading something?
Nope, not gonna say that because that's a solid point. But, ya also gotta look at the potential, and more likely, other-side of that ticket.
People are saying stuff, venting their frustration, because they have a supportive team of many others that share identical stories. More stories and various AI interventions than I can put a number to. They are sick and tired of being bamboozled, flim-flammed, conned and told "you just need to practice". So, they speak out. That is more likely, but what do I know.
So again with the Halo theory, everyone is just perfect, they don't get mad about losing, no one does. No one ever rage posts because they are mad. Every post is just an altruistic method of trying to better the game.
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I think this thread calls for another cigar on the deck.
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@eatyum said in Food for thought:
I'm saying the flaws are just flaws, and by their nature, they will screw one person over more then the other in any small sample size, such as in a game. Or with flaws do you think they should screw everybody equally in each individual game?
The flaws, imo, are not JUST flaws. For the most part. They are mechanisms put in the game to create parity on some level. For sure, due to whatever hocus-pocus psychological marketing strategy, SDS adheres to. It's not random.
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@eatyum said in Food for thought:
@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
This man acting like a lot of people in RL don't get mad about losing. Everyone is a perfect saint who's only motive in posting negative things is to better the game.
Not to mention, this site, reddit, and Twitter don't represent the majority of the game, most people go about playing it without ever posting, so drawing any conclusions based on posts is folly.
The reason so many people claim about the game forcing them to lose is simple, if something is repeated enough, it gets believed. I see a post that claims the game is making that person lose, I remember times I lost, and suddenly I start thinking, wait what if it's not me? Plenty of people want that excuse.
If I tell you to look for Yellow cars, suddenly you'll start seeing yellow cars everywhere because you are aware of it. Even though the amount of Yellow cars didn't actually increase, you just weren't looking for it before.
Same principle applies here. We all know the game isn't perfect and there are flaws, but if someone is looking for the game purposingly making them lose, they will see those flaws as intentional actions, and surmise the game is making them lose.
I’m sorry but when there’s video/photo being shared of the game doing stupid stuff that benefits one opponent over the other, well you can’t sit and say players are just imagining it. It actually happened, it was captured and shared. Funny thing is this topic is brought up multiple times a year, every year. It’s not a coincidence that many players are “imagining” things.
I didn't say they were imagining flaws. Never once did I say that. And no it's not a coincidence people think the game is forcing them to lose, as I said, if something gets repeated enough it gets believed.
I'm saying the flaws are just flaws, and by their nature, they will screw one person over more then the other in any small sample size, such as in a game. Or with flaws do you think they should screw everybody equally in each individual game?
You don’t have to believe anything when you are able to record it, it’s a fact at that point that it happened. Players post bs happening in this game all year, every year.
Why hasn’t SDS been able to fix these “flaws” then.
Good players can overcome those “flaws” by giving the RNG hitting a higher number to work with. These “flaws” are determining games for the average/below average players....surely you can understand their frustration with that.
I understand their frustration, your trying to twist my words here. Yes, people record weird stuff that shouldn't happen, that's not shocking at all, THERE ARE FLAWS IN THE GAME, SO OF COURSE PEOPLE WILL HAVE PICTURES OF SUCH AN OCCURENCE.
That doesn't = the game is forcing them to lose, so again, I ask you "Or with flaws do you think they should screw everybody equally in each individual game?" PLEASE ANSWER THAT.
Lol, it surely does force them to lose when these flaws are happening at the wrong time “bases loaded situation” or at the end of the game “error causing a run to score, or putting the go ahead run on base” ....the average player has a hard time getting past what these flaws put in front of them, causing them to lose. If my opponent scores 2 runs on a bs error out of my control with only 2 innings left and I’m not a very good hitter, those 2 runs put up on me by bs will more than likely cause me to lose.
If this game is going to have flaws that SDS can’t figure out how to fix...then I can’t answer your question. How are we supposed to equally share the flaws during our game when we have no idea when/where their going to happen and SDS doesn’t communicate (I wonder why) about them?
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Anecdotal, but I tend to find myself having better focus and taking more balls when I’m losing in the last 3 -4 innings. I assume I’m not alone here.
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@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Food for thought:
Anecdotal, but I tend to find myself having better focus and taking more balls when I’m losing in the last 3 -4 innings. I assume I’m not alone here.
That’s cool, I found I don’t need to do that when I’m getting game winning hits like this.
https://imgur.com/gallery/JxOEKI1
This must be a “flaw” though that just seemed to happen at the right time to end the game.
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So SDS is the Astros basically?
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@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Food for thought:
Anecdotal, but I tend to find myself having better focus and taking more balls when I’m losing in the last 3 -4 innings. I assume I’m not alone here.
That’s cool, I found I don’t need to do that when I’m getting game winning hits like this.
https://imgur.com/gallery/JxOEKI1
This must be a “flaw” though that just seemed to happen at the right time to end the game.
CLEARLY SDS has chosen you this year. Let me reevaluate my worldview now.
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@ToneOfWrath said in Food for thought:
So SDS is the Astros basically?
Well they did admit to “monitoring numbers”
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I was disappointed when I saw there was no trash can stadium sound.
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@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Food for thought:
@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Food for thought:
Anecdotal, but I tend to find myself having better focus and taking more balls when I’m losing in the last 3 -4 innings. I assume I’m not alone here.
That’s cool, I found I don’t need to do that when I’m getting game winning hits like this.
https://imgur.com/gallery/JxOEKI1
This must be a “flaw” though that just seemed to happen at the right time to end the game.
CLEARLY SDS has chosen you this year. Let me reevaluate my worldview now.
Can’t think of anything else to say to dispute it? Kinda hard I know when the proof is right in front of you.
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@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
This man acting like a lot of people in RL don't get mad about losing. Everyone is a perfect saint who's only motive in posting negative things is to better the game.
Not to mention, this site, reddit, and Twitter don't represent the majority of the game, most people go about playing it without ever posting, so drawing any conclusions based on posts is folly.
The reason so many people claim about the game forcing them to lose is simple, if something is repeated enough, it gets believed. I see a post that claims the game is making that person lose, I remember times I lost, and suddenly I start thinking, wait what if it's not me? Plenty of people want that excuse.
If I tell you to look for Yellow cars, suddenly you'll start seeing yellow cars everywhere because you are aware of it. Even though the amount of Yellow cars didn't actually increase, you just weren't looking for it before.
Same principle applies here. We all know the game isn't perfect and there are flaws, but if someone is looking for the game purposingly making them lose, they will see those flaws as intentional actions, and surmise the game is making them lose.
I’m sorry but when there’s video/photo being shared of the game doing stupid stuff that benefits one opponent over the other, well you can’t sit and say players are just imagining it. It actually happened, it was captured and shared. Funny thing is this topic is brought up multiple times a year, every year. It’s not a coincidence that many players are “imagining” things.
I didn't say they were imagining flaws. Never once did I say that. And no it's not a coincidence people think the game is forcing them to lose, as I said, if something gets repeated enough it gets believed.
I'm saying the flaws are just flaws, and by their nature, they will screw one person over more then the other in any small sample size, such as in a game. Or with flaws do you think they should screw everybody equally in each individual game?
You don’t have to believe anything when you are able to record it, it’s a fact at that point that it happened. Players post bs happening in this game all year, every year.
Why hasn’t SDS been able to fix these “flaws” then.
Good players can overcome those “flaws” by giving the RNG hitting a higher number to work with. These “flaws” are determining games for the average/below average players....surely you can understand their frustration with that.
I understand their frustration, your trying to twist my words here. Yes, people record weird stuff that shouldn't happen, that's not shocking at all, THERE ARE FLAWS IN THE GAME, SO OF COURSE PEOPLE WILL HAVE PICTURES OF SUCH AN OCCURENCE.
That doesn't = the game is forcing them to lose, so again, I ask you "Or with flaws do you think they should screw everybody equally in each individual game?" PLEASE ANSWER THAT.
Lol, it surely does force them to lose when these flaws are happening at the wrong time “bases loaded situation” or at the end of the game “error causing a run to score, or putting the go ahead run on base” ....the average player has a hard time getting past what these flaws put in front of them, causing them to lose. If my opponent scores 2 runs on a bs error out of my control with only 2 innings left and I’m not a very good hitter, those 2 runs put up on me by bs will more than likely cause me to lose.
If this game is going to have flaws that SDS can’t figure out how to fix...then I can’t answer your question. How are we supposed to equally share the flaws during our game when we have no idea when/where their going to happen and SDS doesn’t communicate (I wonder why) about them?
So what you are saying then, is flaws CAN'T happen at the worst time? Otherwise it HAS to be intentional game design? Wouldn't it stand to reason that flaws can happen at any time? Including the worst? Because that's an easy answer to why it happens at the worst time sometimes, because that's the nature of it, it can happen at anytime, it will sometimes happen in critical situations.
As for the example. yes that's a "flaw" if you will, sometimes bad contact gets rewarded and it isn't only at the worst times, it can happen anytime.
Why would you know when a flaw was going to happen? If we all knew when they were going to happen, it'd be a pretty easy fix wouldn't it?]
Again, because of the nature of flaws, in a single game, one person will benefit from it, that's just reality, that doesn't mean you were destined to lose. It wasn't an intentional game design
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@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Food for thought:
@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Food for thought:
Anecdotal, but I tend to find myself having better focus and taking more balls when I’m losing in the last 3 -4 innings. I assume I’m not alone here.
That’s cool, I found I don’t need to do that when I’m getting game winning hits like this.
https://imgur.com/gallery/JxOEKI1
This must be a “flaw” though that just seemed to happen at the right time to end the game.
CLEARLY SDS has chosen you this year. Let me reevaluate my worldview now.
Can’t think of anything else to say to dispute it? Kinda hard I know when the proof is right in front of you.
Your definition of proof differs greatly from mine.
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@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
That’s cool, I found I don’t need to do that when I’m getting game winning hits like this.
We all got stories...
I was playing a guy in RS a couple days ago. 14th inning, 0-0, One of those games where the pitching is just unhittable (perhaps that's by design and someone has a theory about that as well). Anyway, it's a CF of epic proportions and my Willie Mays comes up to bat. I'm shell-shocked at this point in the game because no matter what I do the AI is not letting me get traction.
So, anyway, I'm down 0-2 and just punchy and frazzled. Pitch comes in and I read it wrong and tried to check my swing. I mean, honest to God, I barely bumped the "O" (control swing) and that freakin' ball goes flying out of the park like it had rockets attached to it.
My opponent quit before the announcer could finish off "just like the ex-girlfriend who ain't coming back..that ball is gone!"
Yeah, I just skilled up on that home-run in a stressful situation. I'm pretty awesome.
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@dcordash1 said in Food for thought:
@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
That’s cool, I found I don’t need to do that when I’m getting game winning hits like this.
We all got stories...
I was playing a guy in RS a couple days ago. 14th inning, 0-0, One of those games where the pitching is just unhittable (perhaps that's by design and someone has a theory about that as well). Anyway, it's a CF of epic proportions and my Willie Mays comes up to bat. I'm shell-shocked at this point in the game because no matter what I do the AI is not letting me get traction.
So, anyway, I'm down 0-2 and just punchy and frazzled. Pitch comes in and I read it wrong and tried to check my swing. I mean, honest to God, I barely bumped the "O" (control swing) and that freakin' ball goes flying out of the park like it had rockets attached to it.
My opponent quit before the announcer could finish off "just like the ex-girlfriend who ain't coming back..that ball is gone!"
Yeah, I just skilled up on that home-run in a stressful situation. I'm pretty awesome.
Sarcasm.You scored one run in 14 innings and you think SDS scripted your victory. Did I get that right?
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@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Food for thought:
You scored one run in 14 innings and you think SDS scripted your victory. Did I get that right?
Bob, I'm just not sure how to answer that.
All I got is "yeah, I believe that homerun I shouldn't have hit was part of the "grand finale" by the AI to keep me coming back" . Drag a game out for much longer than it should have been and humiliate my opponent on an AI adjustment (or whatever you want to call it).
I bet he was plenty pissed and he should have been. I sure didn't feel any sort of vindication for winning the game on a bizarre check-swing. -
@ToneOfWrath said in Food for thought:
So SDS is the Astros basically?
Holy Cheating Baseball...the perfect analogy!
