Food for thought
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I wish they would pick me one of these years.
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This man acting like a lot of people in RL don't get mad about losing. Everyone is a perfect saint who's only motive in posting negative things is to better the game.
Not to mention, this site, reddit, and Twitter don't represent the majority of the game, most people go about playing it without ever posting, so drawing any conclusions based on posts is folly.
The reason so many people claim about the game forcing them to lose is simple, if something is repeated enough, it gets believed. I see a post that claims the game is making that person lose, I remember times I lost, and suddenly I start thinking, wait what if it's not me? Plenty of people want that excuse.
If I tell you to look for Yellow cars, suddenly you'll start seeing yellow cars everywhere because you are aware of it. Even though the amount of Yellow cars didn't actually increase, you just weren't looking for it before.
Same principle applies here. We all know the game isn't perfect and there are flaws, but if someone is looking for the game purposingly making them lose, they will see those flaws as intentional actions, and surmise the game is making them lose.
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@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Food for thought:
This is an error in thinking. No, really. There is literally a name for it - the bandwagon fallacy.
?? Ok, you give..I get it.
Ha...but really, I like the game enuf to buy it every year...Believe it's like how women relate pregnancy. It can be horribly stressful and painful, but our memories forget the degree of pain and we do it all over again.
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@eatyum said in Food for thought:
This man acting like a lot of people in RL don't get mad about losing. Everyone is a perfect saint who's only motive in posting negative things is to better the game.
Not to mention, this site, reddit, and Twitter don't represent the majority of the game, most people go about playing it without ever posting, so drawing any conclusions based on posts is folly.
The reason so many people claim about the game forcing them to lose is simple, if something is repeated enough, it gets believed. I see a post that claims the game is making that person lose, I remember times I lost, and suddenly I start thinking, wait what if it's not me? Plenty of people want that excuse.
If I tell you to look for Yellow cars, suddenly you'll start seeing yellow cars everywhere because you are aware of it. Even though the amount of Yellow cars didn't actually increase, you just weren't looking for it before.
Same principle applies here. We all know the game isn't perfect and there are flaws, but if someone is looking for the game purposingly making them lose, they will see those flaws as intentional actions, and surmise the game is making them lose.No..just no...
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@dcordash1 said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
This man acting like a lot of people in RL don't get mad about losing. Everyone is a perfect saint who's only motive in posting negative things is to better the game.
Not to mention, this site, reddit, and Twitter don't represent the majority of the game, most people go about playing it without ever posting, so drawing any conclusions based on posts is folly.
The reason so many people claim about the game forcing them to lose is simple, if something is repeated enough, it gets believed. I see a post that claims the game is making that person lose, I remember times I lost, and suddenly I start thinking, wait what if it's not me? Plenty of people want that excuse.
If I tell you to look for Yellow cars, suddenly you'll start seeing yellow cars everywhere because you are aware of it. Even though the amount of Yellow cars didn't actually increase, you just weren't looking for it before.
Same principle applies here. We all know the game isn't perfect and there are flaws, but if someone is looking for the game purposingly making them lose, they will see those flaws as intentional actions, and surmise the game is making them lose.No..just no...
Thanks, you really disproved everything I said with that sentence.
Tell me how my logic is wrong, otherwise you are just blowing smoke. -
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
@dcordash1 said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
This man acting like a lot of people in RL don't get mad about losing. Everyone is a perfect saint who's only motive in posting negative things is to better the game.
Not to mention, this site, reddit, and Twitter don't represent the majority of the game, most people go about playing it without ever posting, so drawing any conclusions based on posts is folly.
The reason so many people claim about the game forcing them to lose is simple, if something is repeated enough, it gets believed. I see a post that claims the game is making that person lose, I remember times I lost, and suddenly I start thinking, wait what if it's not me? Plenty of people want that excuse.
If I tell you to look for Yellow cars, suddenly you'll start seeing yellow cars everywhere because you are aware of it. Even though the amount of Yellow cars didn't actually increase, you just weren't looking for it before.
Same principle applies here. We all know the game isn't perfect and there are flaws, but if someone is looking for the game purposingly making them lose, they will see those flaws as intentional actions, and surmise the game is making them lose.No..just no...
Thanks, you really disproved everything I said with that sentence.
Tell me how my logic is wrong, otherwise you are just blowing smoke.You get me.
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@eatyum said in Food for thought:
This man acting like a lot of people in RL don't get mad about losing. Everyone is a perfect saint who's only motive in posting negative things is to better the game.
Not to mention, this site, reddit, and Twitter don't represent the majority of the game, most people go about playing it without ever posting, so drawing any conclusions based on posts is folly.
The reason so many people claim about the game forcing them to lose is simple, if something is repeated enough, it gets believed. I see a post that claims the game is making that person lose, I remember times I lost, and suddenly I start thinking, wait what if it's not me? Plenty of people want that excuse.
If I tell you to look for Yellow cars, suddenly you'll start seeing yellow cars everywhere because you are aware of it. Even though the amount of Yellow cars didn't actually increase, you just weren't looking for it before.
Same principle applies here. We all know the game isn't perfect and there are flaws, but if someone is looking for the game purposingly making them lose, they will see those flaws as intentional actions, and surmise the game is making them lose.
I’m sorry but when there’s video/photo being shared of the game doing stupid stuff that benefits one opponent over the other, well you can’t sit and say players are just imagining it. It actually happened, it was captured and shared. Funny thing is this topic is brought up multiple times a year, every year. It’s not a coincidence that many players are “imagining” things.
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@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
This man acting like a lot of people in RL don't get mad about losing. Everyone is a perfect saint who's only motive in posting negative things is to better the game.
Not to mention, this site, reddit, and Twitter don't represent the majority of the game, most people go about playing it without ever posting, so drawing any conclusions based on posts is folly.
The reason so many people claim about the game forcing them to lose is simple, if something is repeated enough, it gets believed. I see a post that claims the game is making that person lose, I remember times I lost, and suddenly I start thinking, wait what if it's not me? Plenty of people want that excuse.
If I tell you to look for Yellow cars, suddenly you'll start seeing yellow cars everywhere because you are aware of it. Even though the amount of Yellow cars didn't actually increase, you just weren't looking for it before.
Same principle applies here. We all know the game isn't perfect and there are flaws, but if someone is looking for the game purposingly making them lose, they will see those flaws as intentional actions, and surmise the game is making them lose.
I’m sorry but when there’s video/photo being shared of the game doing stupid stuff that benefits one opponent over the other, well you can’t sit and say players are just imagining it. It actually happened, it was captured and shared. Funny thing is this topic is brought up multiple times a year, every year. It’s not a coincidence that many players are “imagining” things.
I didn't say they were imagining flaws. Never once did I say that. And no it's not a coincidence people think the game is forcing them to lose, as I said, if something gets repeated enough it gets believed.
I'm saying the flaws are just flaws, and by their nature, they will screw one person over more then the other in any small sample size, such as in a game. Or with flaws do you think they should screw everybody equally in each individual game?
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@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Food for thought:
I’d also note that eyewitness testimony is quite unreliable. It’s influenced by so much of our inherent biases, like biases that shift blame from one’s own shortcomings to something external.
Oh, brother....I believe you may be putting an argument together based on a single or maybe even a couple eyewitnesses.
Start this out again with - "group-think based on mass-hysteria formulated by the shortcomings of a gaming demographic" is often quite unreliable.
Then you got an argument...albeit a pretty weak one.
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@dcordash1 said in Food for thought:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Food for thought:
I’d also note that eyewitness testimony is quite unreliable. It’s influenced by so much of our inherent biases, like biases that shift blame from one’s own shortcomings to something external.
Oh, brother....I believe you may be putting an argument together based on a single or maybe even a couple eyewitnesses.
Start this out again with - "group-think based on mass-hysteria formulated by the shortcomings of a gaming demographic" is often quite unreliable.
Then you got an argument...albeit a pretty weak one.
Yeah, because people never get influenced by other people, everyone always comes up with these things on their own. They never saw one complaint about forced outcomes before they magically came up with the concept by themselves.
Are you really going to sit there and say people are not influenced by what other people say? That people don't read things and then get unconscious bias after reading something?
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@dcordash1 said in Food for thought:
@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in Food for thought:
I’d also note that eyewitness testimony is quite unreliable. It’s influenced by so much of our inherent biases, like biases that shift blame from one’s own shortcomings to something external.
Oh, brother....I believe you may be putting an argument together based on a single or maybe even a couple eyewitnesses.
Start this out again with - "group-think based on mass-hysteria formulated by the shortcomings of a gaming demographic" is often quite unreliable.
Then you got an argument...albeit a pretty weak one.
More smoke.
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@eatyum said in Food for thought:
@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
This man acting like a lot of people in RL don't get mad about losing. Everyone is a perfect saint who's only motive in posting negative things is to better the game.
Not to mention, this site, reddit, and Twitter don't represent the majority of the game, most people go about playing it without ever posting, so drawing any conclusions based on posts is folly.
The reason so many people claim about the game forcing them to lose is simple, if something is repeated enough, it gets believed. I see a post that claims the game is making that person lose, I remember times I lost, and suddenly I start thinking, wait what if it's not me? Plenty of people want that excuse.
If I tell you to look for Yellow cars, suddenly you'll start seeing yellow cars everywhere because you are aware of it. Even though the amount of Yellow cars didn't actually increase, you just weren't looking for it before.
Same principle applies here. We all know the game isn't perfect and there are flaws, but if someone is looking for the game purposingly making them lose, they will see those flaws as intentional actions, and surmise the game is making them lose.
I’m sorry but when there’s video/photo being shared of the game doing stupid stuff that benefits one opponent over the other, well you can’t sit and say players are just imagining it. It actually happened, it was captured and shared. Funny thing is this topic is brought up multiple times a year, every year. It’s not a coincidence that many players are “imagining” things.
I didn't say they were imagining flaws. Never once did I say that. And no it's not a coincidence people think the game is forcing them to lose, as I said, if something gets repeated enough it gets believed.
I'm saying the flaws are just flaws, and by their nature, they will screw one person over more then the other in any small sample size, such as in a game. Or with flaws do you think they should screw everybody equally in each individual game?
You don’t have to believe anything when you are able to record it, it’s a fact at that point that it happened. Players post bs happening in this game all year, every year.
Why hasn’t SDS been able to fix these “flaws” then?
Good players can overcome those “flaws” by giving the RNG hitting a higher number to work with. These “flaws” are determining games for the average/below average players....surely you can understand their frustration with tha
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@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
This man acting like a lot of people in RL don't get mad about losing. Everyone is a perfect saint who's only motive in posting negative things is to better the game.
Not to mention, this site, reddit, and Twitter don't represent the majority of the game, most people go about playing it without ever posting, so drawing any conclusions based on posts is folly.
The reason so many people claim about the game forcing them to lose is simple, if something is repeated enough, it gets believed. I see a post that claims the game is making that person lose, I remember times I lost, and suddenly I start thinking, wait what if it's not me? Plenty of people want that excuse.
If I tell you to look for Yellow cars, suddenly you'll start seeing yellow cars everywhere because you are aware of it. Even though the amount of Yellow cars didn't actually increase, you just weren't looking for it before.
Same principle applies here. We all know the game isn't perfect and there are flaws, but if someone is looking for the game purposingly making them lose, they will see those flaws as intentional actions, and surmise the game is making them lose.
I’m sorry but when there’s video/photo being shared of the game doing stupid stuff that benefits one opponent over the other, well you can’t sit and say players are just imagining it. It actually happened, it was captured and shared. Funny thing is this topic is brought up multiple times a year, every year. It’s not a coincidence that many players are “imagining” things.
I didn't say they were imagining flaws. Never once did I say that. And no it's not a coincidence people think the game is forcing them to lose, as I said, if something gets repeated enough it gets believed.
I'm saying the flaws are just flaws, and by their nature, they will screw one person over more then the other in any small sample size, such as in a game. Or with flaws do you think they should screw everybody equally in each individual game?
You don’t have to believe anything when you are able to record it, it’s a fact at that point that it happened. Players post bs happening in this game all year, every year.
Why hasn’t SDS been able to fix these “flaws” then.
Good players can overcome those “flaws” by giving the RNG hitting a higher number to work with. These “flaws” are determining games for the average/below average players....surely you can understand their frustration with that.
I understand their frustration, your trying to twist my words here. Yes, people record weird stuff that shouldn't happen, that's not shocking at all, THERE ARE FLAWS IN THE GAME, SO OF COURSE PEOPLE WILL HAVE PICTURES OF SUCH AN OCCURENCE.
That doesn't = the game is forcing them to lose, so again, I ask you "Or with flaws do you think they should screw everybody equally in each individual game?" PLEASE ANSWER THAT.
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@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
This man acting like a lot of people in RL don't get mad about losing. Everyone is a perfect saint who's only motive in posting negative things is to better the game.
Not to mention, this site, reddit, and Twitter don't represent the majority of the game, most people go about playing it without ever posting, so drawing any conclusions based on posts is folly.
The reason so many people claim about the game forcing them to lose is simple, if something is repeated enough, it gets believed. I see a post that claims the game is making that person lose, I remember times I lost, and suddenly I start thinking, wait what if it's not me? Plenty of people want that excuse.
If I tell you to look for Yellow cars, suddenly you'll start seeing yellow cars everywhere because you are aware of it. Even though the amount of Yellow cars didn't actually increase, you just weren't looking for it before.
Same principle applies here. We all know the game isn't perfect and there are flaws, but if someone is looking for the game purposingly making them lose, they will see those flaws as intentional actions, and surmise the game is making them lose.
I’m sorry but when there’s video/photo being shared of the game doing stupid stuff that benefits one opponent over the other, well you can’t sit and say players are just imagining it. It actually happened, it was captured and shared. Funny thing is this topic is brought up multiple times a year, every year. It’s not a coincidence that many players are “imagining” things.
I didn't say they were imagining flaws. Never once did I say that. And no it's not a coincidence people think the game is forcing them to lose, as I said, if something gets repeated enough it gets believed.
I'm saying the flaws are just flaws, and by their nature, they will screw one person over more then the other in any small sample size, such as in a game. Or with flaws do you think they should screw everybody equally in each individual game?
You don’t have to believe anything when you are able to record it, it’s a fact at that point that it happened. Players post bs happening in this game all year, every year.
Why hasn’t SDS been able to fix these “flaws” then.
Good players can overcome those “flaws” by giving the RNG hitting a higher number to work with. These “flaws” are determining games for the average/below average players....surely you can understand their frustration with that.
I can respect this POV. I just can’t respect the OP’s conspiracy.
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@eatyum said in Food for thought:
Are you really going to sit there and say people are not influenced by what other people say? That people don't read things and then get unconscious bias after reading something?
Nope, not gonna say that because that's a solid point. But, ya also gotta look at the potential, and more likely, other-side of that ticket.
People are saying stuff, venting their frustration, because they have a supportive team of many others that share identical stories. More stories and various AI interventions than I can put a number to. They are sick and tired of being bamboozled, flim-flammed, conned and told "you just need to practice". So, they speak out. That is more likely, but what do I know.
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@dcordash1 said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
Are you really going to sit there and say people are not influenced by what other people say? That people don't read things and then get unconscious bias after reading something?
Nope, not gonna say that because that's a solid point. But, ya also gotta look at the potential, and more likely, other-side of that ticket.
People are saying stuff, venting their frustration, because they have a supportive team of many others that share identical stories. More stories and various AI interventions than I can put a number to. They are sick and tired of being bamboozled, flim-flammed, conned and told "you just need to practice". So, they speak out. That is more likely, but what do I know.
So again with the Halo theory, everyone is just perfect, they don't get mad about losing, no one does. No one ever rage posts because they are mad. Every post is just an altruistic method of trying to better the game.
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I think this thread calls for another cigar on the deck.
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@eatyum said in Food for thought:
I'm saying the flaws are just flaws, and by their nature, they will screw one person over more then the other in any small sample size, such as in a game. Or with flaws do you think they should screw everybody equally in each individual game?
The flaws, imo, are not JUST flaws. For the most part. They are mechanisms put in the game to create parity on some level. For sure, due to whatever hocus-pocus psychological marketing strategy, SDS adheres to. It's not random.
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@eatyum said in Food for thought:
@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
@SHOW_TIME_ryan said in Food for thought:
@eatyum said in Food for thought:
This man acting like a lot of people in RL don't get mad about losing. Everyone is a perfect saint who's only motive in posting negative things is to better the game.
Not to mention, this site, reddit, and Twitter don't represent the majority of the game, most people go about playing it without ever posting, so drawing any conclusions based on posts is folly.
The reason so many people claim about the game forcing them to lose is simple, if something is repeated enough, it gets believed. I see a post that claims the game is making that person lose, I remember times I lost, and suddenly I start thinking, wait what if it's not me? Plenty of people want that excuse.
If I tell you to look for Yellow cars, suddenly you'll start seeing yellow cars everywhere because you are aware of it. Even though the amount of Yellow cars didn't actually increase, you just weren't looking for it before.
Same principle applies here. We all know the game isn't perfect and there are flaws, but if someone is looking for the game purposingly making them lose, they will see those flaws as intentional actions, and surmise the game is making them lose.
I’m sorry but when there’s video/photo being shared of the game doing stupid stuff that benefits one opponent over the other, well you can’t sit and say players are just imagining it. It actually happened, it was captured and shared. Funny thing is this topic is brought up multiple times a year, every year. It’s not a coincidence that many players are “imagining” things.
I didn't say they were imagining flaws. Never once did I say that. And no it's not a coincidence people think the game is forcing them to lose, as I said, if something gets repeated enough it gets believed.
I'm saying the flaws are just flaws, and by their nature, they will screw one person over more then the other in any small sample size, such as in a game. Or with flaws do you think they should screw everybody equally in each individual game?
You don’t have to believe anything when you are able to record it, it’s a fact at that point that it happened. Players post bs happening in this game all year, every year.
Why hasn’t SDS been able to fix these “flaws” then.
Good players can overcome those “flaws” by giving the RNG hitting a higher number to work with. These “flaws” are determining games for the average/below average players....surely you can understand their frustration with that.
I understand their frustration, your trying to twist my words here. Yes, people record weird stuff that shouldn't happen, that's not shocking at all, THERE ARE FLAWS IN THE GAME, SO OF COURSE PEOPLE WILL HAVE PICTURES OF SUCH AN OCCURENCE.
That doesn't = the game is forcing them to lose, so again, I ask you "Or with flaws do you think they should screw everybody equally in each individual game?" PLEASE ANSWER THAT.
Lol, it surely does force them to lose when these flaws are happening at the wrong time “bases loaded situation” or at the end of the game “error causing a run to score, or putting the go ahead run on base” ....the average player has a hard time getting past what these flaws put in front of them, causing them to lose. If my opponent scores 2 runs on a bs error out of my control with only 2 innings left and I’m not a very good hitter, those 2 runs put up on me by bs will more than likely cause me to lose.
If this game is going to have flaws that SDS can’t figure out how to fix...then I can’t answer your question. How are we supposed to equally share the flaws during our game when we have no idea when/where their going to happen and SDS doesn’t communicate (I wonder why) about them?
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Anecdotal, but I tend to find myself having better focus and taking more balls when I’m losing in the last 3 -4 innings. I assume I’m not alone here.
