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@TripleH-4481_PSN said in Buy 99:
I definitely see a shift in the game with premium pack price increases and 99 player online rewards towards encouraging the player base to either spend money on the game or play a lot online. If you are an offline grinder like me we are basically SOL, at least up to this point in time. Flipping may open up eventually but for now there are a lot of cards I can’t afford and even those I can I don’t want to spend my stubs on. It’s discouraging to say the least.
Huge shift this year.... unfortunately most games are headed this way now. EA set precedent earning over a billion dollars in just microtransactions last year, and now all gaming companies want a piece of that pie. It's very obvious SDS is turning that corner and will only get worse each year. I'm a Madden player and they started a huge shift just like this in 2016 and got worse every year to now, where it is just the normal for Madden.
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@Saberq269_PSN said in Buy 99:
Guys I am kinda worried about certain things in this years game.I maybe be exaggerating of course but it seems to me that most of the 99's this year so far are in the packs.
TA Season 2 is 97 again.In the year of 99's day 1 we don't really get a lot of them through grinding.
This all may change but what if Team Affinity's are 97 all year long with XP reward path bosses being 99s
Do we really have to buy packs for 99 Ohtani and Trout ect?
I wasn't really thinking about this before and I need to see their stats but TA 2 being 97 kinda worries me a bit for the future of this game
the difference between 97 and 99 in this game is nothing, a 97 with a better swing will always be better than a 99 with a bad one. Card overall does not matter.
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@Saberq269_PSN said in Buy 99:
Guys I am kinda worried about certain things in this years game.I maybe be exaggerating of course but it seems to me that most of the 99's this year so far are in the packs.
TA Season 2 is 97 again.In the year of 99's day 1 we don't really get a lot of them through grinding.
This all may change but what if Team Affinity's are 97 all year long with XP reward path bosses being 99s
Do we really have to buy packs for 99 Ohtani and Trout ect?
I wasn't really thinking about this before and I need to see their stats but TA 2 being 97 kinda worries me a bit for the future of this game
they give you enough free packs to hopefully pull one (I've pulled Darvish, Nen, McCovey twice (sold one to get Sutton just because)), and if you sell dupes and grind you can most likely buy from marketplace... I'm eyeing Alvarez but might take some time to get him... maybe by Memorial Day Weekend if I take advantage of this week+ long vacation since my actual vacation won't be until I find out when Jets are in Vegas.
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@SotaNice-_PSN said in Buy 99:
@Saberq269_PSN said in Buy 99:
Guys I am kinda worried about certain things in this years game.I maybe be exaggerating of course but it seems to me that most of the 99's this year so far are in the packs.
TA Season 2 is 97 again.In the year of 99's day 1 we don't really get a lot of them through grinding.
This all may change but what if Team Affinity's are 97 all year long with XP reward path bosses being 99s
Do we really have to buy packs for 99 Ohtani and Trout ect?
I wasn't really thinking about this before and I need to see their stats but TA 2 being 97 kinda worries me a bit for the future of this game
the difference between 97 and 99 in this game is nothing, a 97 with a better swing will always be better than a 99 with a bad one. Card overall does not matter.
I love the Brett Baty card.
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Another thing about packs is the "Pack Opening" videos on YouTube are no longer the go-tos for people, I feel like more people are interested in the informative videos like how to beat things like Showdown, Conquests, Mini-Seasons or a program or Moment in general or a good gameplay video... packs are just a bonus for those that know how to earn massive amounts of stubs by playing market and/or being real good at things like Challenge of the Week or can afford to buy stubs... and even then no guarantee that you'll get the top card... I watched tons of YTers pull that 99 Trout but the amount of packs they needed was crazy!
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The 97's after a couple of parallels will be a 99 anyway. This new system of giving higher diamonds early has totally made going after the LS series an afterthought. Only thing that concerns me is the different sets where you lose the ability to use all players but 1 after Set 2. I don't really like that part and it seems to me that we will just see the same players over and over as the season progresses. Season 3 99 Griffey, Season 3 99 Chipper different cards etc. We will see.
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@romeischillin said in Buy 99:
Another thing about packs is the "Pack Opening" videos on YouTube are no longer the go-tos for people, I feel like more people are interested in the informative videos like how to beat things like Showdown, Conquests, Mini-Seasons or a program or Moment in general or a good gameplay video... packs are just a bonus for those that know how to earn massive amounts of stubs by playing market and/or being real good at things like Challenge of the Week or can afford to buy stubs... and even then no guarantee that you'll get the top card... I watched tons of YTers pull that 99 Trout but the amount of packs they needed was crazy!
You will find that there are generally 3 types of people that have "pack luck."
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Streamers - They are basically free advertisement for the game. They don't want a thousand people watching a streamer pull packs to get bronze and common.
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New players - This is simply to get to players hooked.
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Really bad players - This is to help them compete.
Regardless of what you think these things are just good for business. If you are unsure, don't fall into any of these categories and see how good your pack luck is. Sure there will be a few outliers but the huge majority that fall into these categories will not have good pulls. I have been a WS player since I first started on PS in 17. My best pull ever was a 70k Sale. I decided to jump over to Xbox to kind of test this out with a new player. I have pulled 5 or so people worth more than 70k. My guess would be if I played on Xbox after making WS this year, my pack luck would again be bad.
This isn't a complaint post, it is simply how the system works which is best for the business that they are trying to make money on.
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SDS always pumps out packs for sale the first time they release them. In the past, they put them in every reward path and conquest map a month or two later. If you don't want to buy the specialty packs, wait until they hand them out like candy. I'm going to wait to see if that trend continues before jumping to a conclusion.
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@Saberq269_PSN said in Buy 99:
Guys I am kinda worried about certain things in this years game.I maybe be exaggerating of course but it seems to me that most of the 99's this year so far are in the packs.
TA Season 2 is 97 again.In the year of 99's day 1 we don't really get a lot of them through grinding.
This all may change but what if Team Affinity's are 97 all year long with XP reward path bosses being 99s
Do we really have to buy packs for 99 Ohtani and Trout ect?
I wasn't really thinking about this before and I need to see their stats but TA 2 being 97 kinda worries me a bit for the future of this game
You can get 99 Ohtani free. Just gotta get lucky.
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@Saberq269_PSN said in Buy 99:
Guys I am kinda worried about certain things in this years game.I maybe be exaggerating of course but it seems to me that most of the 99's this year so far are in the packs.
TA Season 2 is 97 again.In the year of 99's day 1 we don't really get a lot of them through grinding.
This all may change but what if Team Affinity's are 97 all year long with XP reward path bosses being 99s
Do we really have to buy packs for 99 Ohtani and Trout ect?
I wasn't really thinking about this before and I need to see their stats but TA 2 being 97 kinda worries me a bit for the future of this game
The issue with TA was in 21 all the best cards were put there SDS admitted this themselves so that's why they took it away and made them featured programs. When TA return they did it in a way that corrected many of the issues TA in 21 had which was to quick to finish and to good of cards.
I am not saying this to defend SDS more of a cause and affect explanation, I do agree that the 99s all seem to be in packs which will be released as rewards later on that's the pattern always. The sets issue may change that but to be fair no one uses early pack cards later in the year anyways.
The number in the corner of the card really means nothing cause there are a tone of 97s and even 95 that I would use over some 99s so to me it doesn't mean much.
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@DemIsE4_XBL said in Buy 99:
@romeischillin said in Buy 99:
Another thing about packs is the "Pack Opening" videos on YouTube are no longer the go-tos for people, I feel like more people are interested in the informative videos like how to beat things like Showdown, Conquests, Mini-Seasons or a program or Moment in general or a good gameplay video... packs are just a bonus for those that know how to earn massive amounts of stubs by playing market and/or being real good at things like Challenge of the Week or can afford to buy stubs... and even then no guarantee that you'll get the top card... I watched tons of YTers pull that 99 Trout but the amount of packs they needed was crazy!
You will find that there are generally 3 types of people that have "pack luck."
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Streamers - They are basically free advertisement for the game. They don't want a thousand people watching a streamer pull packs to get bronze and common.
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New players - This is simply to get to players hooked.
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Really bad players - This is to help them compete.
Regardless of what you think these things are just good for business. If you are unsure, don't fall into any of these categories and see how good your pack luck is. Sure there will be a few outliers but the huge majority that fall into these categories will not have good pulls. I have been a WS player since I first started on PS in 17. My best pull ever was a 70k Sale. I decided to jump over to Xbox to kind of test this out with a new player. I have pulled 5 or so people worth more than 70k. My guess would be if I played on Xbox after making WS this year, my pack luck would again be bad.
This isn't a complaint post, it is simply how the system works which is best for the business that they are trying to make money on.
streamers dont get boosted packs
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I don’t think they get boosted packs but they do spend a boat load of money on them, edit their videos to just the highlights, and then write off thousands of dollars as business expenses. So, boosted? No. Misleading? Yes, for sure.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN said in Buy 99:
I don’t think they get boosted packs but they do spend a boat load of money on them, edit their videos to just the highlights, and then write off thousands of dollars as business expenses. So, boosted? No. Misleading? Yes, for sure.
Can’t believe that micro transactions can be used for a tax deduction. First time I heard this I was like wtf.
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Yeah, crazy stuff.
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@soonermagic78_XBL said in Buy 99:
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in Buy 99:
I don’t think they get boosted packs but they do spend a boat load of money on them, edit their videos to just the highlights, and then write off thousands of dollars as business expenses. So, boosted? No. Misleading? Yes, for sure.
Can’t believe that micro transactions can be used for a tax deduction. First time I heard this I was like wtf.
"Business expense" for the streamers...no write-off for those who do not make income off streaming.
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@DemIsE4_XBL said in Buy 99:
@romeischillin said in Buy 99:
Another thing about packs is the "Pack Opening" videos on YouTube are no longer the go-tos for people, I feel like more people are interested in the informative videos like how to beat things like Showdown, Conquests, Mini-Seasons or a program or Moment in general or a good gameplay video... packs are just a bonus for those that know how to earn massive amounts of stubs by playing market and/or being real good at things like Challenge of the Week or can afford to buy stubs... and even then no guarantee that you'll get the top card... I watched tons of YTers pull that 99 Trout but the amount of packs they needed was crazy!
You will find that there are generally 3 types of people that have "pack luck."
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Streamers - They are basically free advertisement for the game. They don't want a thousand people watching a streamer pull packs to get bronze and common.
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New players - This is simply to get to players hooked.
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Really bad players - This is to help them compete.
Regardless of what you think these things are just good for business. If you are unsure, don't fall into any of these categories and see how good your pack luck is. Sure there will be a few outliers but the huge majority that fall into these categories will not have good pulls. I have been a WS player since I first started on PS in 17. My best pull ever was a 70k Sale. I decided to jump over to Xbox to kind of test this out with a new player. I have pulled 5 or so people worth more than 70k. My guess would be if I played on Xbox after making WS this year, my pack luck would again be bad.
This isn't a complaint post, it is simply how the system works which is best for the business that they are trying to make money on.
I have to disagree. The pack luck is exactly what the odds are... the streamers/YT guys that get all those crazy pulls open an insane amount of packs... they are opening 3-5 75 pack bundles and other special packs, sometimes even opening on multiple accounts... its wild and for a time I got sucked into that before seeing how some guys were thriving as "NMS", so I kinda do a hybrid team and only spend when I have the money and/or I REALLY WANT A CARD that is inside of a pack... unfortunately for me I wasn't able to spend on packs when the Alvarez/Baty packs came out.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN said in Buy 99:
I don’t think they get boosted packs but they do spend a boat load of money on them, edit their videos to just the highlights, and then write off thousands of dollars as business expenses. So, boosted? No. Misleading? Yes, for sure.
The whole tax deduction thing is blown out of proportion. At best it means they are basically getting 13-18% off the packs.
You don’t see it much on this game really as most of the pack openings are free packs or just from stubs earned but make no mistake most of the pack opening YouTubers and streamers on 2k and madden are addicted to opening packs as much as they do it for content and get a tax break lol. I’ve been in one bigger 2K YTer streams and he has every card in the game, probably $10k deep in packs for the year and he was actually shaming people to try to get them to give him money to open packs. And it was pretty aggressive. That’s an addict.
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There's also a FREE Around The World pack in the WBC Program that contains Trout (if you get the Rare Round). I purchased one of those packs during the Flash sale but got the Base round... I forgot who I selected though. All in all "Buy 99" isn't a thing.
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I really don’t have an issue with the best cards being in packs. It makes sense for a company trying to make money. The programs are just so time consuming they take away from the fun of using the players you want to use. Unless you play all day and night, it is kind of complete programs and play a ton of offline stuff, or not complete programs and play with the guys you want. It is just a change in mindset for myself, because I have always completed programs. I have only completed one division of TA1 and I bet TA2 will be worse for me. I am just buying cards off the market and not worrying if I complete things. I did complete POTM as that was actually a well designed and enjoyable program.
